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Did you read the article I linked? Her story doesn't seem to stay consistent, especially consistent with that of the pattern that rape/assault victims take.

I.e., her first version of the story didn't involve forcefully sticking his finger in her vagina, but after the story wasn't believed, it magically did involve it.

The people who she told her story to, isn't proof because it's just her word.

She also continued to *support* him after the fact, for years.

There is no pattern of sexual misconduct by Biden, as men (and women) who do these kinds of acts tend not to be a 1 and done.

She claimed she filed a complaint, but there's zero proof of it. She didn't even keep a copy of the complaint herself, but kept her time sheets from that time.

She didn't provide an actual date that it happened (that's not terribly uncommon, but it doesn't give the accused any chance to figure out where they were on said date and time). There are no witnesses to him ever doing inappropriate things with someone (of this nature).

Creepy? Yeah. Assault? No.

And finally, there have been ZERO accusations against him (unlike Trump, who has between 12 and 16 women who have come forward).

I'm not saying it's impossible that this happened, but it just smells of a smear campaign (which happens. See: Duke La Cross team).
Weird that you would bring up Trump in this discussion. I thought this was about Reade’s accusation of Biden.

As for not having evidence Biden hasn’t been touchy feely, I can share a montage of how many times publicly Biden has inappropriately touched women and kids. I don’t think we need to go there.

I 100% agree with your statement that allegations aren’t concrete evidence, but here we are in an age where it is.
 
Looks like she first went public in Spring of 2019. She’s also a Bernie Supporter. Do you think Bernie’s campaign was pushing it?

Im not spinning anything. I’m posting articles and talking about what’s been reported. I definitely believe your innocent until proven guilty, but that doesn’t mean the public can’t talk about the news as it comes in.

Also, if you read the story, then why would you not agree that the allegation is rape?
I said ...follow the law...lock up any rapist...said it a couple of times....as it is I think it's suspect as hell
 
Ever ask yourself, why wasn't she wearing anything under her clothes?

It doesn't matter if she was or wasn't wearing anything, but the cynical person in me says she is bringing that up so it sounds more plausible.
 
Weird that you would bring up Trump in this discussion.
Why is it weird? They are running a campaign against each other...are two wealthy powerful white men who have been accused of innapropriate sexual conduct...fits the narrative
 
It doesn't matter if she was or wasn't wearing anything, but the cynical person in me says she is bringing that up so it sounds more plausible.
I think it’s highly plausible. I also have suspicion that this is a move by the Sanders’s campaign.
 
Why is it weird? They are running a campaign against each other...are two wealthy powerful white men who have been accused of innapropriate sexual conduct...fits the narrative
It’s weird because there are already 3 other threads where you can discuss Trump’s allegations. This thread is about Reade’s accusation, not those who alleged against Trump.
 
It doesn't matter if she was or wasn't wearing anything, but the cynical person in me says she is bringing that up so it sounds more plausible.

That was my thinking. It just seems like a bit of an odd thing to say.
 
Weird that you would bring up Trump in this discussion. I thought this was about Reade’s accusation of Biden.

Weird how many people who threw a blind eye to the countless accusations against Trump seem to think they're now the defender of women when it comes to sexual assault.

As for not having evidence Biden hasn’t been touchy feely, I can share a montage of how many times publicly Biden has inappropriately touched women and kids. I don’t think we need to go there.

Inappropriate touching is not in the same ball park as allegedly forcing your hand down a womans dress, up her thigh and sticking one or more of them into her vagina.

But you know that, and you know that it's spin.

I 100% agree with your statement that allegations aren’t concrete evidence, but here we are in an age where it is.

Again, Republicans/conservatives/MAGAites lost the right to be high and mighty when it comes to this (much like those who blindly supported Clinton despite several accusations against him).
 
Weird how many people who threw a blind eye to the countless accusations against Trump seem to think they're now the defender of women when it comes to sexual assault.
Trump hasn’t mentioned this once. That’s false.

Inappropriate touching is not in the same ball park as allegedly forcing your hand down a womans dress, up her thigh and sticking one or more of them into her vagina.

But you know that, and you know that it's spin.
Sexual assault and rape: Including statutory rape and sexual assault and allegations of inappropriate touching.
Again, Republicans/conservatives/MAGAites lost the right to be high and mighty when it comes to this (much like those who blindly supported Clinton despite several accusations against him).
That’s a straw man if I ever saw one. No, just because the person you support has had alleged sexual misconduct does not exclude you from having an opinion on any other matter of the same allegation. And, as I clearly stated several times, I support innocent until proven guilty.
 
Trump hasn’t mentioned this once. That’s false.



That’s a straw man if I ever saw one. No, just because the person you support has had alleged sexual misconduct does not exclude you from having an opinion on any other matter of the same allegation. And, as I clearly stated several times, I support innocent until proven guilty.

You can say that till you are blue in the face, but your actions don't support your words.
 
If this is a nothing burger, then the senate should open up their archives so it goes away. Apparently, Reade claims she filed a complaint in the senate during the time of the alleged incident.

What makes you think the Senate archives are closed? Apparently, The New York Times checked the archives for that complaint and couldn't find it.

Reade told The Times she filed a written complaint against Biden with the Senate personnel office. But The Times could not find any complaint. When The Times asked Reade for a copy of the complaint, she said she did not have it. Yet she maintained and provided a copy of her 1993 Senate employment records.

It is odd that Reade kept a copy of her employment records but did not keep a copy of a complaint documenting criminal conduct by a man whose improprieties changed “the trajectory” of her life. It’s equally odd The Times was unable to find a copy of the alleged Senate complaint.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...ault-allegation-tara-reade-column/3046962001/
 
It’s weird because there are already 3 other threads where you can discuss Trump’s allegations. This thread is about Reade’s accusation, not those who alleged against Trump.
I don't visit all these threads mags...I'm conversational. Segregating threads serves no purpose to me when discussions are about the candidates in an upcoming election. Reade's accusation is a political subject with tributaries around the campaign. We're adults, we should be able to have these discussions
 
I think it’s highly plausible. I also have suspicion that this is a move by the Sanders’s campaign.

Based on what?...if anything, why would/should anyone logically believe it's from Bernie instead of the GOP ?
 
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What makes you think the Senate archives are closed? Apparently, The New York Times checked the archives for that complaint and couldn't find it.

Reade told The Times she filed a written complaint against Biden with the Senate personnel office. But The Times could not find any complaint. When The Times asked Reade for a copy of the complaint, she said she did not have it. Yet she maintained and provided a copy of her 1993 Senate employment records.

It is odd that Reade kept a copy of her employment records but did not keep a copy of a complaint documenting criminal conduct by a man whose improprieties changed “the trajectory” of her life. It’s equally odd The Times was unable to find a copy of the alleged Senate complaint.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...ault-allegation-tara-reade-column/3046962001/


The New York Times clearly stated their reporting didn’t mean it didn’t happen. It also doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist. Biden has to release the records for proper investigation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...a-9dfd-990f9dcc71fc_story.html?outputType=amp
 
Biden has to release the records for proper investigation
The burdon of truth is not on Biden...it's on his accuser. He really doesn't have to respond unless the court orders him to and he probably shouldn't if he's indeed innocent. Usually the guilty will talk a hundred miles and hour about a story like this.
 
The burdon of truth is not on Biden...it's on his accuser. He really doesn't have to respond unless the court orders him to and he probably shouldn't if he's indeed innocent. Usually the guilty will talk a hundred miles and hour about a story like this.
Agree. I’m sure her attorneys will be doing just that.
 
Why? If it actually went to a trial you don't think it would be brought up? It's really not relevant what you find offensive
Yes, I understand that my opinions are irrelevant. Yet I can't help sharing them all the same. I failing of mine of which I will always be ashamed.
 
Trump hasn’t mentioned this once. That’s false.

You have the balls to talk about "false"?

Where did I say he mentioned this? NO where did I say HE mentioned it.

Here, let me quote what I said, and give you a chance to read it again.

Weird how many people who threw a blind eye to the countless accusations against Trump seem to think they're now the defender of women when it comes to sexual assault.

Notice how I was talking about those who threw a blind eye to the countless accusations AGAINST TRUMP.

Sexual assault and rape: Including statutory rape and sexual assault and allegations of inappropriate touching.

There is one singular accusation of sexual assault here, and even as you yourself said, the evidence doesn't seem to jive very well.

That’s a straw man if I ever saw one. No, just because the person you support has had alleged sexual misconduct does not exclude you from having an opinion on any other matter of the same allegation. And, as I clearly stated several times, I support innocent until proven guilty.

A: I don't support Biden
B: If you discount something repeatedly, you lose credibility when you all the sudden support it.
C: For someone who says "innocent until proven guilty", you might want to look into what that actually means and compare it to what you are actually saying. Because your words deceive you.
 
What makes you think the Senate archives are closed? Apparently, The New York Times checked the archives for that complaint and couldn't find it.

Reade told The Times she filed a written complaint against Biden with the Senate personnel office. But The Times could not find any complaint. When The Times asked Reade for a copy of the complaint, she said she did not have it. Yet she maintained and provided a copy of her 1993 Senate employment records.

It is odd that Reade kept a copy of her employment records but did not keep a copy of a complaint documenting criminal conduct by a man whose improprieties changed “the trajectory” of her life. It’s equally odd The Times was unable to find a copy of the alleged Senate complaint.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...ault-allegation-tara-reade-column/3046962001/

I'm glad at least one of you read the article I posted a link to.
 
Yes, I understand that my opinions are irrelevant. Yet I can't help sharing them all the same. I failing of mine of which I will always be ashamed.

Should i call your opinion offensive?

Asking for an offended person. :bgrin:
 
You have the balls to talk about "false"?
Yes I do

Where did I say he mentioned this? NO where did I say HE mentioned it.
I stand corrected. Read it wrong.

There is one singular accusation of sexual assault here, and even as you yourself said, the evidence doesn't seem to jive very well.
No, this is just the one with the highest media exposure.
Here are all the times Joe Biden has been accused of acting inappropriately toward women and girls
https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-allegations-women-2020-campaign-2019-6

A: I don't support Biden
Show me where I said you were?

B: If you discount something repeatedly, you lose credibility when you all the sudden support it.
False. Facts don't care about your feelings.

C: For someone who says "innocent until proven guilty", you might want to look into what that actually means and compare it to what you are actually saying. Because your words deceive you.
That only applies to a court of law and not of "public opinion"
https://thehill.com/opinion/judicia...proven-guilty-mean-anything-in-public-opinion
 


The New York Times clearly stated their reporting didn’t mean it didn’t happen.


I never said it didn't happen. I said that it doesn't appear that the Senate archives are sealed. The New York Times looked through them and couldn't find it.
 
I never said it didn't happen. I said that it doesn't appear that the Senate archives are sealed. The New York Times looked through them and couldn't find it.
I shared a link on what files are sealed. It will require Biden to release it or a court to order it to be released.
 
I never said it didn't happen. I said that it doesn't appear that the Senate archives are sealed. The New York Times looked through them and couldn't find it.

Thats exactly what the MSM/Fake News/COMCAST/CNN (not sure what their nickname is) wants you to believe!
 

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