Terry Stotts has been extended

[BBert]

Mark Jackson was disliked by his players. Stotts is loved by his.

Yeah Mark Jackson is a gigantic NO!

 

[dviss1]

Besides the Turner/Meyers/Crabbe/Hibbert/Parsons contracts, Nicolas Batum Trade, Festus Ezeli signing, not getting anything for expiring deals, and Getting rid of Vonleh, Neil has been a good GM.

FTFY...

 

[Blazers Roy]

Gah...
This is almost as bad as losing game 4.

I would have gone with the guy who beat Stotts in the playoffs a few years back: Dave Joerger.
I don't believe in teams forgetting everything they learned from their previous coach, i believe Joerger would have brought something new into the mix.

Here's a nice throwback video for us to see how far we've gone. "stagnation on offense?" "unnecessary hand-offs?" you don't say coach Nick, you don't say.


Can we at least get Terry some assistants?
-A defensive coordinator.
-A guy who can tell him when the other team is already on a 6-0 run and notify him on momentum swings.
-A guy who can tell him when his own players are hot\cold.
-A guy who can play "bad cop" with Lillard and CJ.

 

[hoopsjock]

I explained that already though.

When on fumes you don't lose your initial explosion, you lose your endurance and ability to maintain it.
We are a great team when clicking and full of energy but couldn't maintain it because we are on a long haul aNd gassed out.

Im also not saying we didn't also choke.
Im saying it should, and in my opinion, must also be considered a factor in it all. Many things came into play, but this portion is all but dismissed by everyone and i think that isn't fair. I think it played a bigger part than some give it credit for.

Answer this, if Dame and CJ were tired why didn't we run plays for other players or bring in fresher legs throughout the games so that they were fresher near the end then at the beginning? For example, last night we barely went to Meyers in the 2nd half. If those guys are too tired maybe we shouldn't be running iso or pick and rolls for them the entire 2nd half.

Also. Choking goes hand in hand with one of the greatest teams of all time just knowing when to step on the gas.

You don't just go from energized to completely lost and worn out from the 2nd to the 3rd quarter. The real reason is that Kerr made adjustments at halftime, Stotts thought he didn't have to change anything because Dame and CJ usually bail him out. If they were tired he needed to adjust, it's that simple.

 

[BBert]

Wow, now we're settling for "isn't bad." Name the last coach that "wasn't bad" that won a title.

 

[dviss1]

Yeah come on guys...Bones has a YouTube channel so he obviously know what he is talking about!

So, I know you didn't call him a name but this is a personal insult.

And you can have a dose of STFU...

 

[Dougnsalem]

I know you left for awhile so you might have missed this but anytime you reference the Blazers and big man coach in the same post it is required that you tag @Boob-No-More (even though he's awol).

Lol. Well, hopefully he comes back. I have always appreciated the time that he put into his posts, with the stats and all. I've noticed a couple others awol too.

Anyways, FTFM.....

HEY, @Boob-No-More , what do you think about this???

Ok, well, like it or not it's a done deal.

NOW, can we get a GOOD big man coach??? PLEASEEEEEE.....

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Did you ever wonder what the GSW would look like if they settled for Mark Jackson instead of replacing him with Kerr?

I love how you're tacitly assuming we have anything like the talent that Mark Jackson had. It's sort of sweet.

 

[borim69]

Man, that is such a lame excuse OB. We were up 17 in the 2nd half of the last 3 games. The one game we didn't have a 17 point lead was because our coach thought we would be fine if we just left Curry wide open. This wasn't about being tired or running into a better team, we choked.

It is not a lame excuse it is a fact. I thought we would have won one game but we did not. We were down 17 points against Denver and came back and won. We have the second best backcourt in the NBA but that does not matter if the best backcourt in the NBA is 5 car lengths ahead of you and their 3rd and 4th best players on the floor are better then your second best player on the floor. I mean my lord we just proved to the world that we could beat arguably 2 of the 3 best teams in the western conference with one hand tied behind our back taking a knife to a gunfight and making a good show of it to the best team in the NBA. Now you may not be happy with how it ended and I am not either but until we fix 3/4 we aint going any further. I am ecstatic on how the season played out as a whole because we found out who we are and what we are made of and we need to make those other adjustments.

 

[Blazer Freak]

So, I know you didn't call him a name but this is a personal insult.

And you can have a dose of STFU...

Nah. Just find it hilarious that the dude thinks he’s gods gift to this forum with his basketball knowledge.

 

[OneSport3]

I love how you're tacitly assuming we have anything like the talent that Mark Jackson had. It's sort of sweet.

No one knew the talent that Mark Jackson had at the time either. The Warriors were a good team but no one thought they would develop into the giants that they are today. Steph Curry was coming off his first All-Star appearance. There was even debate from our fanbase as to who was the better SG, Wesley Matthews or Klay Thompson. The pre-Kerr Warriors got bounced in the 1st round by the Clippers that season. Even Steve Kerr himself didn't know. He was debating between taking the Knicks job or Warriors. Luckily for Kerr and Curry, he chose the Warriors job. It was his arrival as the new coach and implementing the flowing offense that elevated Curry and Klay to the next level.

Who says that can't happen to Dame and CJ and this team if a new coach arrived???

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Answer this, if Dame and CJ were tired why didn't we run plays for other players or bring in fresher legs throughout the games so that they were fresher near the end then at the beginning? For example, last night we barely went to Meyers in the 2nd half. If those guys are too tired maybe we shouldn't be running iso or pick and rolls for them the entire 2nd half.



You don't just go from energized to completely lost and worn out from the 2nd to the 3rd quarter. The real reason is that Kerr made adjustments at halftime, Stotts thought he didn't have to change anything because Dame and CJ usually bail him out. If they were tired he needed to adjust, it's that simple.

How much of the wcf’s was just the Blazers were “happy to be there” and anything short of a ring is a failure for GS?

Had a conversation earlier and the guy I was with talked about that Draymond basically seemed determined he wasnt going to lose, and while the Blazers didnt want to loss, he thought they’re intensity was a lot less then the other series’ and maybe its because their real goal was just getting to the wcf to begin with.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Didn't Denver fire George Karl after getting to the WCF's?

That was after they got there twice if I'm not mistaken.

 

[calvin natt]

Answer this, if Dame and CJ were tired why didn't we run plays for other players or bring in fresher legs throughout the games so that they were fresher near the end then at the beginning? For example, last night we barely went to Meyers in the 2nd half. If those guys are too tired maybe we shouldn't be running iso or pick and rolls for them the entire 2nd half.



You don't just go from energized to completely lost and worn out from the 2nd to the 3rd quarter. The real reason is that Kerr made adjustments at halftime, Stotts thought he didn't have to change anything because Dame and CJ usually bail him out. If they were tired he needed to adjust, it's that simple.

Run plays for who?

 

[Orion Bailey]

Answer this, if Dame and CJ were tired why didn't we run plays for other players or bring in fresher legs throughout the games so that they were fresher near the end then at the beginning? For example, last night we barely went to Meyers in the 2nd half. If those guys are too tired maybe we shouldn't be running iso or pick and rolls for them the entire 2nd half.

Thats coaching, not dame and cj choking.

You don't just go from energized to completely lost and worn out from the 2nd to the 3rd quarter. The real reason is that Kerr made adjustments at halftime, Stotts thought he didn't have to change anything because Dame and CJ usually bail him out. If they were tired he needed to adjust, it's that simple.

Actually i think you do. I think the lull and cool down makes it hard for them to kickstart back up again right away.
Im not saying kerr didnt make adjustments, but i think the guys hit the wall in the lockeroom each game, too.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I love how you're tacitly assuming we have anything like the talent that Mark Jackson had. It's sort of sweet.

Jackson won 51 games with a starting line-up of David Lee, Bogut, Iggy, and a pre-prime Thompson. Curry was already great, but their bench was mediocre at best. This was 2 seasons after the team was well under .500. This was not some super team.

If anything, you are making a case that Olshey should go also....which I am in agreement with.

 

[TBpup]

Wait now. Some things are not accurate here, or missed.

For one, you are saying better coaches WERE available. Those coaches are NOT available now though. Cant change history. Who is an obvious better choice at this moment that is available?

For what I was trying to get across, it is entirely accurate. At the time, people said the same thing. "Who could we get that is better?" Certainly none of those names that were listed had any proof or history of being better than who they replaced and yet they weren't only better, they were in some cases MILES better. I'm sure the same exists now. Candidates that there is no proof of that they would be better but that could be MUCH better. Of course there is risk but with risk can come big rewards. Or, we can play it safe like we are and very likely not depart from very close to where we have been. Swept or Gentlemen Swept for 4 years in a row.

To be fair to Stotts, I don't blame him for losing or the fact that GSW swept. GSW is an all-time great team that was simply the better team.

However, I do blame Stotts for not putting the team in the best position to have a chance at winning. His ridiculous Game 1 PNR coverage on Steph Curry, his stubbornness to continue to trot out Aminu and Harkless in the starting line-up, his curious sub patterns and his inability to adjust to Draymond Green flying down the floor without anyone covering him was inexcusable.

Very much this! GS was the better team. But there were certainly things that could be improved on that in some cases, were almost the worst coaching decision that could be made.

 

[hoopsjock]

How much of the wcf’s was just the Blazers were “happy to be there” and anything short of a ring is a failure for GS?

Had a conversation earlier and the guy I was with talked about that Draymond basically seemed determined he wasnt going to lose, and while the Blazers didnt want to loss, he thought they’re intensity was a lot less then the other series’ and maybe its because their real goal was just getting to the wcf to begin with.

Oh the Blazers were 100% just happy to be there, especially Dame and Stotts. Dame basically said as much last night. There was definitely a difference in mentality between we have to win this (Dame in the 1st round and GS this round) and not wanting to lose but being good with how things turned out if you did (Blazers this series).

 

[hoopsjock]

Thats coaching, not dame and cj choking.

Okay, yeah, this thread is literally about coach Stotts so of course that is coaching.

Actually i think you do. I think the lull and cool down makes it hard for them to kickstart back up again right away.
Im not saying kerr didnt make adjustments, but i think the guys hit the wall in the lockeroom each game, too.

I'm sorry but that is the lamest excuse for a poor performance I've ever heard. They hit a wall in the locker room? That wall is called Terry Stotts and his lack of coaching.

 

[hoopsjock]

Run plays for who?

Hood

Curry

Leonard (That free throw line jump shot was there the entire 2nd half and we only passed it to him there once)

Kanter (did we even try to post him up in the 2nd half of any games?)

Collins (scored 6 straight points and then I don't think he touched the ball again)

You know the same people that were carrying us in the 1st halves this whole series while Dame and CJ struggled.

 

[riverman]

I'd love to see Terry offer Tom Thibideau a position as defensive coordinator or Bill Laimbeer a job as a big man coach...

 

[H.C.]

I'm more concerned about finding a pair of forwards with good enough eyesight to actually hit a basket and take some pressure off of Dame and CJ.

Stotts is far from perfect, but he's very good. Just like any good coach, he'd be even better if he had a stronger roster to work with.

If you are going to argue that Stotts did the best anybody could with a flawed roster - how can you not advocate firing Olshey for putting that flawed roster together?

I want Oshley gone before he fucks up this summer. As well as before he fucks up the 2020 summer.

An argument can be made that since Portland lost Aldrige, traded Batum, let Rolo & Matthews walk. That the players Stotts has had to start have been less than ideal for his system.
Even Henderson didn't fit the system.
This is the first year Stotts has had reliable shooters outside of Lillard/CJ.

 

[Hoopguru]

Watching Raptors Bucks and they both push the ball up and create. The pg’s are really pushing it keeping the D on their toes.
I’ve been a bit tired of our pg taking time to cross mid court and dribbling to much. I’ve herd Stotts yelling to push.

 

[Strenuus]

Whelp, we're stuck with a shitty coach.

Worst decision made since Turner.

We will not win a championship with him.

 

[riverman]

Whelp, we're stuck with a shitty coach.

Worst decision made since Turner.

We will not win a championship with him.

 

[Strenuus]

Mark Jackson was disliked by his players. Stotts is loved by his.

He's only loved because there's no accountability. They question his defensive scheme publically.

This is an awful move and will set us back until we fire him.

 

[riverman]

He's only loved because there's no accountability. They question his defensive scheme publically.

This is an awful move and will set us back until we fire him.

You think we'll lose in the second round next year then? Probably no more record breaking 4OT wins in the future? Stotts does a great job of holding himself accountable...he's just not loud or emo for the media

 

[BBert]

I'd love to see Terry offer Tom Thibideau a position as defensive coordinator or Bill Laimbeer a job as a big man coach...

If Laimbeer coached Nurk, Nurk would become the most hated big man in the league, haha. Hell, he already is to some people.

If Laimbeer could get in Meyers' head and build his confidence though, that would be great.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

If you're worried you might hire a Mike Schuler, then maybe you're not cut out for the job. The team BADLY needs a fresh pair of eyes.

It could even be a new assistant coach; a guy with fresh ideas and not afraid to propose them. I don't expect even that to happen. I heard nothing in the presser that acknowledged we might have done anything wrong in the series or might do something different in the future. Even talking about GS; Olshey just said they competed for 48 minutes; nothing about better ball movement, better passing and a quicker attack.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Oh the Blazers were 100% just happy to be there, especially Dame and Stotts. Dame basically said as much last night. There was definitely a difference in mentality between we have to win this (Dame in the 1st round and GS this round) and not wanting to lose but being good with how things turned out if you did (Blazers this series).

I actually kind of understand... Even as a fan, I have to admit while I'm extremely disappointed in how they played in the WCF, getting there especially after Nurk went down fulfilled my expectations (and probably more so) this year. I'm like trying to find the right balance of both being really proud of what they accomplished because let's admit it, I bet most of us saw Nurk go down and thought they're done. Most of us can look at their roster and say they've got holes. However as a fan when you give those games away the way they did it definitely doesn't feel good.

I actually think Stotts improved this year in the playoffs especially with making adjustments between games, what he really lacked was making those adjustments mid-game. If I was the Blazers "brass" I'd say next year they need to practice defensively multiple schemes and styles well enough they can mix it up mid game and not look lost. I think what really stuck out was that when they made adjustments the players at times looked completely lost because they hadn't really practiced it, or ran it that way in the regular season. On offense, I thought with Nurk they had started to look like a pretty balanced offensive attack, they still need more consistency from their forwards, but when Nurk was healthy, and even for a time with Kanter their offense was more than just Dame and CJ.

I dunno how long it'll just suck what GS did to them, but it still doesn't sit well with me.