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Hawks forum is in shambles. Getting a pick that might not convey this year for a guy who was assumed to be amongst the highest valued young wings in the league.

Also... a Reddish-Barrett wing duo looks damn good. Reuniting that Duke combo.

Protected 1-18 this year. Charlotte currently 20th. Think it will probably convey, but either way a late first and a second is a lot lower than what they were probably expecting.
 
So we get a little noise with trades but on our part I be surprised if CJ get traded at deadline due to Dame being out. Powell maybe and Roco to me is the one that will go with possible Smith or elleby and maybe even brown as fillers. Nurk I believe stays and sign a contract next year and playing with us. I believe he to entrenched with Portland and with Dame. But of course I could be wrong too.
 
So we get a little noise with trades but on our part I be surprised if CJ get traded at deadline due to Dame being out. .

practically speaking, this would be the best time to trade CJ. It would make no sense for CJ to come back and start dominating the ball and usage again. I saw a stat last year that when CJ plays and Dame was out, CJ's average usage was in the 33-34% range. That's around top-5. Teams know what CJ is; there's no reason to 'showcase' him

let Simons and Little lead the team in opportunity...and try and tank
 
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ame-lillard-surgery-impact-ben-simmons-market

Teams have been waiting on the looming uncertainty regarding Damian Lillard's health in Portland. There remains a strong possibility that Lillard's upcoming abdominal surgery is season-ending, sources told B/R, after Lillard first contemplated going under the knife this past offseason following the Tokyo Olympics.


  1. Lillard's absence should also introduce another seller into a trade market otherwise overcrowded with buyers. It seems Blazers personnel had originally planned to improve their roster around Lillard rather than bottom out for a top draft pick.

    Portland and Indiana seemed to be natural trade partners, two small-market teams underperforming based on preseason expectations but with a current shared goal of contending for the postseason. The Blazers had been frequently mentioned by league sources as a strong Myles Turner destination, while Detroit's Jerami Grant also emerged as a potential Portland target. But if Lillard is indefinitely sidelined, that would seem to further increase the likelihood of Jusuf Nurkic and Robert Covington heading elsewhere.

    Anfernee Simons' recent explosion also has league executives chattering about the future of CJ McCollum in Portland, and to a lesser extent that of Norman Powell. Simons is headed for a lucrative restricted free agency this summer, and Portland is already trying to evade paying the luxury tax.

    Assessing the interest for McCollum is somewhat difficult given his recent collapsed lung and a decline in production at the age of 30. But former GM Neil Olshey's regime valued McCollum quite highly, and there's a sense among some rival executives that McCollum would have a sizable market at a lower evaluation than Olshey may have held.


  1. Roughly a dozen teams pursued Powell ahead of last season's deadline, when Portland acquired him from Toronto. The 28-year-old's five-year, $90 million contract is considered relatively valuable among several league personnel polled by B/R.

    There's some belief that Powell would be open to a new destination. Negotiations over his five-year deal to re-sign in Portland this summer hit several snags, according to league sources, and Powell certainly eyed other destinations, such as New Orleans. The Pelicans do happen to be searching for significant upgrades in their quest to rebound into the play-in tournament, sources said, although McCollum would seem to make more sense as a target for New Orleans.
Both Powell and CJ may be on the move...
 
Problem is, I don't want anything outside of Ingram from NO. Even their picks are kinda trash outside their own.

Fischer has been saying for weeks now that David Griffin is on a scalding seat right now and is desperate for the playoffs. I wonder if he'd do a lightly protected first for CJ. But it's still hard to come up with matching salary that won't be on the books long term.
 
The protections on that LAL pick are unclear. I think it might convey to Memphis in the current scenario, but here's an option.

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The protections on that LAL pick are unclear. I think it might convey to Memphis in the current scenario, but here's an option.

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I would be trying to extort two firsts from NO. Powell's deal is a good one in a league where the salary cap is increasing each year. OR, I would be trying to return Josh Hart and a first instead. Fischer mentions McCollum as more likely, but it's too hard to find matching salary.
 
I would be trying to extort two firsts from NO. Powell's deal is a good one in a league where the salary cap is increasing each year. OR, I would be trying to return Josh Hart and a first instead. Fischer mentions McCollum as more likely, but it's too hard to find matching salary.
might need to make something of that OKC 20 mil under salary floor option.

something like this with a load of picks from NO coming our way.

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might need to make something of that OKC 20 mil under salary floor option.

something like this with a load of picks from NO coming our way.

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I'd be down for that. I'd rather route Hart here though and take less firsts. He's a perfect fit as an athletic wing that can do it all. Great guy next to Dame. If they want to move Dame after though, then this would make more sense.

Josh Hart is averaging 4.4 assists per game at a 20% assist rate. I think Chauncey would LOVE that. His previous career high was 10%. Showing a ton of improvement at age 26.
 
I'd be down for that. I'd rather route Hart here though and take less firsts. He's a perfect fit as an athletic wing that can do it all. Great guy next to Dame. If they want to move Dame after though, then this would make more sense.

Josh Hart is averaging 4.4 assists per game at a 20% assist rate. I think Chauncey would LOVE that. His previous career high was 10%. Showing a ton of improvement at age 26.
i like hart too. but only as a 6th man type. no room for 6'5 PFs in our rebuild.

Powell for Hart works financially, fwiw and it gets us under the tax effectively.
 
He's only playing PF because he has to. He can slot in as a 2-4 here.
kid is putting up 13-7-4 on decent efficiency. Even his defensive metrics are good. If they would take Powell straight up because they need scoring, I'm sold. Call it in.
 
Getting so much Myles Turner noise from all over. We must have another deal lined up for Nurk
 
Bridges is supposed to be the hottest RFA to hit the market this summer. He's cooled down considerably since his hot start. Prolly need more than Nurk to get him though.

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I wouldn't mind re-routing Turner to Detroit and ending up with Jerami Grant, but I have no clue what Indiana would be interested in from us (for Myles Turner or otherwise). I have to think it's a three-way if we're going after Turner.
 
Not sure if Dallas would buy into this but seems like there are a lot of things that work in this trade.

Dallas gets more balance and a move on from KP who has had issues with the way he is used.

Philly gets 2 borderline All-Stars that will help tremendously with scoring and creating offense.

Portland gets Simmons and can let him take his time coming back.

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Not sure if Dallas would buy into this but seems like there are a lot of things that work in this trade.

Dallas gets more balance and a move on from KP who has had issues with the way he is used.

Philly gets 2 borderline All-Stars that will help tremendously with scoring and creating offense.

Portland gets Simmons and can let him take his time coming back.

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NO way sending Little to Mavs in that deal, Roco yes but Little NO
 
Not sure if Dallas would buy into this but seems like there are a lot of things that work in this trade.

Dallas gets more balance and a move on from KP who has had issues with the way he is used.

Philly gets 2 borderline All-Stars that will help tremendously with scoring and creating offense.

Portland gets Simmons and can let him take his time coming back.

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Ok that's enough trade proposals for me today
 
that’s surprising for a role player with no upside like reddish and on an expiring contract

he’s also better than reddish and has bird rights. And since he only fits playoff type teams, most of whom are in the tax, that’s super valuable.
 
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