The 2022 Trade Idea Thread, now with more urgency! (2 Viewers)

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illmatic99 said:
Being a repeat tax payer is very prohibitive from various different angels. Hell, even our MLE in the summer could be essentially double that we can offer to potential FAs just by not being a tax payer.

Ducking it now is a no brainer.
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Free agency is a waste of time. We're not going to get a meaningful asset from free agency.

Our assets right now CJ, RoCo, Norm, and maybe Nurk. Those assets are finite. I don't think RoCo or Nurk will be back. Ducking the luxury tax while dumping a key asset would be a horrible mistake. If we trade CJ for essentially cap space, we might as well just blow it up.
 
BigGameDamian said:
LoL…. Wouldn’t that be a shocker? The Blazers brass changing there mind and are happy with how the team is playing just so they can be the same ol’ team.
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wouldn’t be surprised if they did nothing except dip the tax, just because there’s no urgency this season. But to dip the tax they’re still gonna have to trade one of their bigger contracts
 
Natebishop3 said:
Free agency is a waste of time. We're not going to get a meaningful asset from free agency.

Our assets right now CJ, RoCo, Norm, and maybe Nurk. Those assets are finite. I don't think RoCo or Nurk will be back. Ducking the luxury tax while dumping a key asset would be a horrible mistake. If we trade CJ for essentially cap space, we might as well just blow it up.
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who said anything about capspace? im talking about being able to offer a FA a 12 mil deal instead of 5.

There were reports we wanted Oubre last summer, but couldn't come up with the cash because we only had the TPMLE.

I dunno why you are having trouble grasping this.
 
RR7 said:
Yeah, in a lost season, it makes sense to get under the tax. I hope like hell with a good asset. In a soft quick rebuild. Having a lotto pick and full mle is better than no pick and tax mle
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for sure, but the problem is:

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that's 111M for 6 players. Assume the tax line is 140M next season. Apron 146M. 30M margin before tax; 36M margin before Apron

the first challenge is to trade RoCo for a 1st AND another expiring contract, because it's it next year salary coming back, that cuts the tax margin to 20M and the apron at 26M. And they would only have 7 players under contract

so then, what is Simons going to get? Similar to Powell? Say 15M first year? What about Nurkic? Same 15M. If they bring back those 2 after trading RoCo for an expiring contract Portland is at the tax line and only 6-7M below the apron. And with only 8 players. They'd need 6 more

they absolutely have to trade CJ for a lot less salary...or Jody Allen will be paying millions in tax
 

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Scalma said:
Good organizations know how to build around a superstar because they know those don’t come around often. Not interested in becoming the Magic thanks. You don’t trade Lillard unless he asks out.
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You think he’s going to be a superstar much longer?
 
dame lillard has never been a superstar and thats okay, not everyone can be one
 
illmatic99 said:
who said anything about capspace? im talking about being able to offer a FA a 12 mil deal instead of 5.

There were reports we wanted Oubre last summer, but couldn't come up with the cash because we only had the TPMLE.

I dunno why you are having trouble grasping this.
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Who says he would have even signed with us if we had the TPMLE? Portland is not a free agent destination. Sorry.
 
Some 10 day contract players that Blazers missed: Stanley Johnson, Bismack Biyombo, Boogie Cousins
 
illmatic99 said:
Yes let's pay the tax this yr for our 30 win team and bitch about Jody for not wanting to. Y'all are missing the point.
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I'm not missing the point. I would like to get under the tax to have it as a tool to sign someone. I think we will all be disappointed on who we can actually get with that as always though.
 
illmatic99 said:
who said anything about capspace? im talking about being able to offer a FA a 12 mil deal instead of 5.

There were reports we wanted Oubre last summer, but couldn't come up with the cash because we only had the TPMLE.

I dunno why you are having trouble grasping this.
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What’s there to grasp? Kelly Oubre? Shit if only. He was clearly the missing piece right?

the point is that we won’t be able to find a talent as good as the four guys I mentioned in free agency.
 
TBpup said:
Father Time will take that bet.
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Chris Paul, turning 37 in a couple months..balling

Kyle Lowry, turning 36 in a couple months..balling

Mike Conley, 34...balling

These are just point guards playing right now. Nash was an all star at 37. Kidd was an all star at 36. Billups was an effective starter thru 35. I mean I could go on.
 
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Scalma said:
Chris Paul, turning 37 in a couple months..balling

Kyle Lowry, turning 36 in a couple months..balling

Mike Conley, 34...balling

These are just point guards playing right now. Nash was an all star at 37. Kidd was an all star at 36. Billups was an effective starter thru 35. I mean I could go on.
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Dame is not near the playmaker Paul, Kidd or Nash was.
Lowry is ballin.....at 13 ppg. Not near superstar status, yet we would be paying Dame $50M by then. Lowry is making $26M.
Conley has always been 5x the defensive presence Dame has been, but that is declining.

Father Time will still take the bet.
 
TBpup said:
Dame is not near the playmaker Paul, Kidd or Nash was.
Lowry is ballin.....at 13 ppg. Not near superstar status, yet we would be paying Dame $50M by then. Lowry is making $26M.
Conley has always been 5x the defensive presence Dame has been, but that is declining.

Father Time will still take the bet.
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yeah and he will lose. Go root for the magic with the other ingrates on here. Sick of reading your constant negative bullshit.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Tbpup has been here way longer than you have. I appreciate his posts. How about you stop being a bully?
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LMAO you actually interact with me? I’ve had you on block for awhile, I only accidentally saw your post just now. That’s hilarious.
 
Scalma said:
LMAO you actually interact with me? I’ve had you on block for awhile, I only accidentally saw your post just now. That’s hilarious.
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Scalma said:
yeah and he will lose. Go root for the magic with the other ingrates on here. Sick of reading your constant negative bullshit.
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Once again some of you guys crack me up with this "being logical = constant negative bullshit."

I mean, don't get me wrong, I guess I wish I was driving around with rainbows shooting out of my ass, but alas that's just not the kind analytical mind I was dealt.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Natebishop3 said:
Once again some of you guys crack me up with this "being logical = constant negative bullshit."

I mean, don't get me wrong, I guess I wish I was driving around with rainbows shooting out of my ass, but alas that's just not the kind analytical mind I was dealt.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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He is too cool for school bro. Has you on ignore. Doesn't have time for you and your logic.
 
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