The 2022 Trade Idea Thread, now with more urgency! (1 Viewer)

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Woj pretty much said Windhorst is full of shit and Sixrrs and Nets aren’t talking trades as of now.
 
illmatic99 said:
Boston is desperately looking to shed salary because they are about 3 mil above the tax line. We need to be on the phone with them trying to get some sort of compensation to take on Schroeder's contract with our 6.5 mil TPE.

This is how you build a war chest of assets to make a bigger move later on. Need to be opportunistic, but Cronin doesn't seem like he cares much about getting every last bit of value he can in this teardown.

Philly is also 6 million above. If they want to dump contracts into our TPE along with some second round picks or the like... do it!
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Except it’s been reported at least two or three teams are legitimately interested in giving up assets for Schroeder.
 
Is there anything we could give up for John Collins? Would you trade the NO pick and Hart?
 
B-Roy said:
I did not include Nurk because who knows what his status is. The picks I’m not expecting to be good contributors. Same with any free agent signing. Literally look at who we’ve been able to sign the last decade.
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So we can’t sign players and we can’t draft useful players. No wonder you’re having a meltdown. We literally have no way to get useful players. Got it!
 
Heres another question

Could we attach a recently acquired guy like NAW to Bledsoe in a trade if Bledsoe matches by himself?
 
Scalma said:
Heres another question

Could we attach a recently acquired guy like NAW to Bledsoe in a trade if Bledsoe matches by himself?
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Yes. As long as we're not combining recently-acquired guys' salaries in order to match incoming salary value on our end, we can absolutely trade them out together.

So (for example) if Detroit wanted Bledsoe/NAW for Grant, that works as Bledsoe for Grant and NAW for nothing on our side (creating yet another TE for us), and all is well.
 
I don't think Hart going anywhere I another trade due Hart is type player that Billups likes. Plus we getting players that has some height to them minus bledsole plus there defense stats are better majority of our guys. It's like everyone looks how good there offense is or can they shoot a 3 point shot. Problem I don't see it that way in a lot people minds. What I want see a player can play both ends and fit in with players he playing with on the floor. Just because you can score a lot points don't mean your best player on floor it's mean your probably putting a lot shots up majority of the time to get those points. But the other end your giving just many points. I am not saying the players we traded wasn't good players but most of it came on the offense end not defense end except maybe Roco but he had his moments on defense too. Right now I don't knows how these players going fit and nobody else knows either that's includes the coach. So we knock trades all we what but who knows the players we get just might fit better then the ones we sent out that's why you let play out. Usually individual play by players the outcome usually not very successful in any team sports.
 
NAW was the one younger guy we got that I thought might have a chance of being in a rotation and on a cheaper contract at $5 million next year. He's already a double digit scorer. Didi and Keon are a few years away from a few years away, as will be our picks.

Do we next trade away Hart and Nurkic?

The rebuild continues to get longer and longer.
 
Here’s what I’d like to accomplish today or tomorrow:

1. trade Bledsoe for Siakam and include (2) second round picks

2. trade Nurkic (plus sweetener) for Boucher

3. acquire Simmons for our trade exception, our own 1st and New Orleans 1st and Josh Hart

Ant
Dame
Siakam
Simmons
Boucher

and we get this done before signing Dame’s extension and Ant’s.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
NAW was the one younger guy we got that I thought might have a chance of being in a rotation and on a cheaper contract at $5 million next year. He's already a double digit scorer. Didi and Keon are a few years away from a few years away, as will be our picks.

Do we next trade away Hart and Nurkic?

The rebuild continues to get longer and longer.
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Yes! Nurkic, Hart and Bledsoe
 
WesleyMatthews said:
NAW was the one younger guy we got that I thought might have a chance of being in a rotation and on a cheaper contract at $5 million next year. He's already a double digit scorer. Didi and Keon are a few years away from a few years away, as will be our picks.

Do we next trade away Hart and Nurkic?

The rebuild continues to get longer and longer.
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He averaged double digits cuz he chucked up shots while shooting 37% from the field and 31% from the 3.

no thank you.
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
Here’s what I’d like to accomplish today or tomorrow:

1. trade Bledsoe for Siakam and include (2) second round picks

2. trade Nurkic (plus sweetener) for Boucher

3. acquire Simmons for our trade exception, our own 1st and New Orleans 1st and Josh Hart

Ant
Dame
Siakam
Simmons
Boucher

and we get this done before signing Dame’s extension and Ant’s.
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Lol

I'd hold out for Giannis and Doncic.
 
illmatic99 said:
If we use the TPE for Grant, keep in mind our tax implications of adding salary.

Currently we have 18.9 mil of space. If we were to take on Grant without sending back anything, we'd be right back in the tax.

If we simply shed NAW along with whatever other asset in addition to the TPE, we'd be OK.
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Given the path they may need to take, I would suggest holding on to the TPE until they have hopefully used the cap space to acquire a good player, then signed Simons to his extension, then use the TPE when they are over the cap to acquire another player. So that would be After Aug 1, correct?
 
TBpup said:
Given the path they may need to take, I would suggest holding on to the TPE until they have hopefully used the cap space to acquire a good player, then signed Simons to his extension, then use the TPE when they are over the cap to acquire another player. So that would be After Aug 1, correct?
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right, but we can also use the TPE now and arrive at the same destination if we think there's a player worth using it for. Prolly hurts our tanking goal, but those same players available now might not be available later.
 
I feel like Bledsoe and Windslow are the guys Cronin wants to now dump at about $4 million salary each next season.... He is addicted to cutting salary and can't stop.

Although he could've just traded Norm for an expiring and not have to worry about it.
 
TBpup said:
Given the path they may need to take, I would suggest holding on to the TPE until they have hopefully used the cap space to acquire a good player, then signed Simons to his extension, then use the TPE when they are over the cap to acquire another player. So that would be After Aug 1, correct?
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No; TPE have to be renounced to use cap space.
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
Here’s what I’d like to accomplish today or tomorrow:

1. trade Bledsoe for Siakam and include (2) second round picks

2. trade Nurkic (plus sweetener) for Boucher

3. acquire Simmons for our trade exception, our own 1st and New Orleans 1st and Josh Hart

Ant
Dame
Siakam
Simmons
Boucher

and we get this done before signing Dame’s extension and Ant’s.
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1/2 would be contingent on each other, I assume? Even if, no way TOR takes Nurk/picks/filler for Siakam and Boucher.

3 is not a legal trade. Also we can't trade our 1st.
 
illmatic99 said:
right, but we can also use the TPE now and arrive at the same destination if we think there's a player worth using it for. Prolly hurts our tanking goal, but those same players available now might not be available later.
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I think the TPE can only be used if you are over the cap. Some capologist needs to clarify please.
 
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