The Anfernee to Orlando rumor/discussion thread

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They want offense. Give them both Ayton and Simons. For KCP and Isaac and both their picks. I think Ayton might fit their team. We would actually take in $12 million less than we send out.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
They want offense. Give them both Ayton and Simons. For KCP and Isaac and both their picks. I think Ayton might fit their team. We would actually take in $12 million less than we send out.
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keep in mind: while Orlando is under the tax this season, in July the Wagner and Suggs extensions kick in and Orlando will be over the first apron by 4M. Even if they waive Harris they will still be 3-4M over the tax line

so what they do in the balance of this season will echo thru eternity (sorry....just saw that Gladiator scene on youtube)

anyway, even if what you suggest was a legal trade (don't think it is), it would likely push Orlando over the 2nd apron next season, and they sure wouldn't go that route for players like Simons and Ayton. IIRC, the maximum differential in trades of this size is 7.5M. Maybe that's the past CBA and it's changed in the new one. I also question if Orlando would really want Ayton when they already have WCJ, Moritz Wagner, and Bitadze at C. But because of Orland's impending apron issues, in order to take on the salaries of Simons+Ayton, the Magic would need to unload Cole Anthony (or maybe Wagner/Bitadze) in the trade. So it would need to be something Like Iassac+KCP+Anthony/Wagner coming back...plus draft pick(s)

I'd do it if for no other reason it would take away whatever temptation Cronin has to re-sign Simons and/or Ayton before a new owner is in place
 
After we trade Simons to Orlando, We’re not on the Darius Garland or Trae Young train should they become available?
 
KingSpeed said:
Isaac can defend. A Tisse/Camara/Isaac/Clingan combo would shut people down. Imagine having them to get a stop at the end of a close game.
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Already trying to ruin our 2026 lottery chances?
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
They want offense. Give them both Ayton and Simons. For KCP and Isaac and both their picks. I think Ayton might fit their team. We would actually take in $12 million less than we send out.
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This is what that would take (and it would require Orlando picking up some options):

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wizenheimer said:
keep in mind: while Orlando is under the tax this season, in July the Wagner and Suggs extensions kick in and Orlando will be over the first apron by 4M. Even if they waive Harris they will still be 3-4M over the tax line

so what they do in the balance of this season will echo thru eternity (sorry....just saw that Gladiator scene on youtube)

anyway, even if what you suggest was a legal trade (don't think it is), it would likely push Orlando over the 2nd apron next season, and they sure wouldn't go that route for players like Simons and Ayton. IIRC, the maximum differential in trades of this size is 7.5M. Maybe that's the past CBA and it's changed in the new one. I also question if Orlando would really want Ayton when they already have WCJ, Moritz Wagner, and Bitadze at C. But because of Orland's impending apron issues, in order to take on the salaries of Simons+Ayton, the Magic would need to unload Cole Anthony (or maybe Wagner/Bitadze) in the trade. So it would need to be something Like Iassac+KCP+Anthony/Wagner coming back...plus draft pick(s)

I'd do it if for no other reason it would take away whatever temptation Cronin has to re-sign Simons and/or Ayton before a new owner is in place
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After messing around, I think it would take what Rastapoulos did. So yes, very unlikely.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
If he can ever stay healthy Isaac is exactly the type of oldschool Detroit Piston type of player that Schmitz and Co. seem to covet
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I have been a big advocate for Isaac since it became more evident that Portland was building a long, defensive minded roster. But, a lot of posters started talking politics this and that and said he wouldn't fit in with the fan base.
Now (since the world hasn't ended with the current potus) evidently Isaac's beliefs are acceptable. Anyone that does a little research into Isaac's character will find he is quite literally the anti-NBA stereotype and loved by everyone around him.
Sorry to bring in politics, but it's been okay for many others when it fit their narrative.
 
cheesehoff said:
I have been a big advocate for Isaac since it became more evident that Portland was building a long, defensive minded roster. But, a lot of posters started talking politics this and that and said he wouldn't fit in with the fan base.
Now (since the world hasn't ended with the current potus) evidently Isaac's beliefs are acceptable. Anyone that does a little research into Isaac's character will find he is quite literally the anti-NBA stereotype and loved by everyone around him.
Sorry to bring in politics, but it's been okay for many others when it fit their narrative.
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Yet
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
If he can ever stay healthy Isaac is exactly the type of oldschool Detroit Piston type of player that Schmitz and Co. seem to covet
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The better he actually is, the less likely the trade is to happen. And given that Orlando just gave him a multi-year extension, it kinda seems less likely that he'd be a throw-in to make the salaries match.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
OK, I was being lazy and using ESPN, which allowed my trade. Is there any way we can do it without getting so many players back?
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I thought of another possibility:
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I very much doubt Orlando would do it, but here's a possible rationale:
They just pushed the Celtics without Suggs, who is (a) signed to a big contract, (b) apparently injury-prone, and (c) not a pure shooter. If they acquired Anfernee with an eye to re-signing him, then that would just add to a prohibitive list of big contracts. Whereas if they offload Suggs, then there's more room.
Why would we do it? Suggs is a real leader and a great defender. Plus Anfernee is from Orlando and Suggs is from the Pacific NW.

Of course, he and Scoot would be treading on each other's toes and if you play them together that's very poor shooting, which is another reason it won't happen.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I thought of another possibility:
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I very much doubt Orlando would do it, but here's a possible rationale:
They just pushed the Celtics without Suggs, who is (a) signed to a big contract, (b) apparently injury-prone, and (c) not a pure shooter. If they acquired Anfernee with an eye to re-signing him, then that would just add to a prohibitive list of big contracts. Whereas if they offload Suggs, then there's more room.
Why would we do it? Suggs is a real leader and a great defender. Plus Anfernee is from Orlando and Suggs is from the Pacific NW.

Of course, he and Scoot would be treading on each other's toes and if you play them together that's very poor shooting, which is another reason it won't happen.
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I think if the expectation is that Suggs is coming back at near what he was before getting injured that they would actively want to get Cole Anthony's contract off the books... that is if Suggs were coming back and they were bringing in Ant.

That's why my packages have been Cole Anthony and Anthony Black plus some kind of draft consideration for Anfernee. It works as far as salary matching goes if they do it during this league year and if the Magic just pick up the option on Black. I don't know if we'd get those two and one of the Magic's FRPs in this draft but we might, or maybe we get one of those two picks if we add a couple of second rounders.

Very interested to see what Joe does in the next 4 weeks if anything.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I thought of another possibility:
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I very much doubt Orlando would do it, but here's a possible rationale:
They just pushed the Celtics without Suggs, who is (a) signed to a big contract, (b) apparently injury-prone, and (c) not a pure shooter. If they acquired Anfernee with an eye to re-signing him, then that would just add to a prohibitive list of big contracts. Whereas if they offload Suggs, then there's more room.
Why would we do it? Suggs is a real leader and a great defender. Plus Anfernee is from Orlando and Suggs is from the Pacific NW.

Of course, he and Scoot would be treading on each other's toes and if you play them together that's very poor shooting, which is another reason it won't happen.
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I don't see it. Orlando wants to keep Suggs - he's basically part of their big3 with Paolo and Wagner.

Might be a rare lose lose trade as well as I don't see how Suggs fits good here with Sharpe/Deni/Camara. Rhen we also have to deal with Grant/KCP demanding minutes too.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I thought of another possibility:
View attachment 73838

I very much doubt Orlando would do it, but here's a possible rationale:
They just pushed the Celtics without Suggs, who is (a) signed to a big contract, (b) apparently injury-prone, and (c) not a pure shooter. If they acquired Anfernee with an eye to re-signing him, then that would just add to a prohibitive list of big contracts. Whereas if they offload Suggs, then there's more room.
Why would we do it? Suggs is a real leader and a great defender. Plus Anfernee is from Orlando and Suggs is from the Pacific NW.

Of course, he and Scoot would be treading on each other's toes and if you play them together that's very poor shooting, which is another reason it won't happen.
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That trade doesn't help the Blazers. It doesn't make the Blazers better. We are trying to get out of huge contracts not take on other ones that are just as bad.
 
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