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Who could/would deal for Simons?
  1. Atlanta Hawks - don’t need him. Have Trae.
  2. Boston Celtics - can’t afford him unless they’re sending us White or Brown.
  3. Brooklyn Nets - already have a short scoring combo guard.
  4. Charlotte Hornets - not unless they’re sending LaMelo.
  5. Chicago Bulls - I don’t see it but maybe?
  6. Cleveland Cavaliers - they’re already trying to dump one of their short scoring guards.
  7. Dallas Mavericks - maybe
  8. Denver Nuggets - don’t need him
  9. Detroit Pistons - don’t need him
  10. Golden State Warriors - don’t need him
  11. Houston Rockets - don’t need him
  12. Indiana Pacers - don’t need him
  13. Los Angeles Clippers - don’t need him
  14. Los Angeles Lakers - maybe?
  15. Memphis Grizzlies - I don’t see it unless they’re moving Ja
  16. Miami Heat - don’t need him
  17. Milwaukee Bucks - maybe?
  18. Minnesota Timberwolves - don’t need him
  19. New Orleans Pelicans - don’t need him
  20. New York Knicks - can’t afford him
  21. Oklahoma City Thunder - don’t need him
  22. Orlando Magic - off the table
  23. Philadelphia 76ers - don’t need him
  24. Phoenix Suns - don’t need him
  25. Portland Trail Blazers - sad Blazer noises
  26. Sacramento Kings - maybe?
  27. San Antonio Spurs - don’t need him
  28. Toronto Raptors - probably don’t need him?
  29. Utah Jazz - maybe?
  30. Washington Wizards - don’t need him
 
So here's a couple
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I'd want a couple picks. At least the LA pick. Here is what they're showing in Fanspo
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The second pick is way too good for POR. Nobody wants RWIII.
 
Mavs make sense to me as an Ant destination. Highly doubt they give up that Lakers pick but maybe they give up a protected pick or a swap.
 
Who could/would deal for Simons?
  1. Atlanta Hawks - don’t need him. Have Trae.
  2. Boston Celtics - can’t afford him unless they’re sending us White or Brown.
  3. Brooklyn Nets - already have a short scoring combo guard.
  4. Charlotte Hornets - not unless they’re sending LaMelo.
  5. Chicago Bulls - I don’t see it but maybe?
  6. Cleveland Cavaliers - they’re already trying to dump one of their short scoring guards.
  7. Dallas Mavericks - maybe
  8. Denver Nuggets - don’t need him
  9. Detroit Pistons - don’t need him
  10. Golden State Warriors - don’t need him
  11. Houston Rockets - don’t need him
  12. Indiana Pacers - don’t need him
  13. Los Angeles Clippers - don’t need him
  14. Los Angeles Lakers - maybe?
  15. Memphis Grizzlies - I don’t see it unless they’re moving Ja
  16. Miami Heat - don’t need him
  17. Milwaukee Bucks - maybe?
  18. Minnesota Timberwolves - don’t need him
  19. New Orleans Pelicans - don’t need him
  20. New York Knicks - can’t afford him
  21. Oklahoma City Thunder - don’t need him
  22. Orlando Magic - off the table
  23. Philadelphia 76ers - don’t need him
  24. Phoenix Suns - don’t need him
  25. Portland Trail Blazers - sad Blazer noises
  26. Sacramento Kings - maybe?
  27. San Antonio Spurs - don’t need him
  28. Toronto Raptors - probably don’t need him?
  29. Utah Jazz - maybe?
  30. Washington Wizards - don’t need him
 
Is it more likely we give Ant an extension than trade him?
I sure hope not but who the fuck knows. It is really important to remember that the majority of the time that we kept the Dame/CJ bullshit going that Cronin was second in command in our front office.

So yeah, I would love to say that I'm confident that a trade is more likely than an extension for Ant but unfortunately I can't.
 
It's funny: I think of Nique Clifford as this draft's Bane (all-round player, old for his draft) and he's mocked at #16 in a lot of places. If he ends up going to Memphis and putting up similar numbers to Bane (kind of like how KCP - Orlando's last "solution" at SG - didn't put up much better stats than his budget replacement in Denver)...
 
I just don't think anything will happen until this team sells.
If Allen trust is going to have a timeline of the offer being accepted by the end of 2025 as some reports detailed you might be right.

I had thought the process would take longer. But if its only 6 months the Blazers might just sit out most this summer, make a pick at #11, run it back for a new owner to decide.

Disappointing that were aiming for year 3 of benching Scoot & Sharpe - whom Cronin had said the franchise was being built around.

I guess I'd much prefer we run it back than we give Ant/Ayton huge extensions though.
 
Who could/would deal for Simons?
  1. Atlanta Hawks - don’t need him. Have Trae.
  2. Boston Celtics - can’t afford him unless they’re sending us White or Brown.
  3. Brooklyn Nets - already have a short scoring combo guard.
  4. Charlotte Hornets - not unless they’re sending LaMelo.
  5. Chicago Bulls - I don’t see it but maybe?
  6. Cleveland Cavaliers - they’re already trying to dump one of their short scoring guards.
  7. Dallas Mavericks - maybe
  8. Denver Nuggets - don’t need him
  9. Detroit Pistons - don’t need him
  10. Golden State Warriors - don’t need him
  11. Houston Rockets - don’t need him
  12. Indiana Pacers - don’t need him
  13. Los Angeles Clippers - don’t need him
  14. Los Angeles Lakers - maybe?
  15. Memphis Grizzlies - I don’t see it unless they’re moving Ja
  16. Miami Heat - don’t need him
  17. Milwaukee Bucks - maybe?
  18. Minnesota Timberwolves - don’t need him
  19. New Orleans Pelicans - don’t need him
  20. New York Knicks - can’t afford him
  21. Oklahoma City Thunder - don’t need him
  22. Orlando Magic - off the table
  23. Philadelphia 76ers - don’t need him
  24. Phoenix Suns - don’t need him
  25. Portland Trail Blazers - sad Blazer noises
  26. Sacramento Kings - maybe?
  27. San Antonio Spurs - don’t need him
  28. Toronto Raptors - probably don’t need him?
  29. Utah Jazz - maybe?
  30. Washington Wizards - don’t need him
 
It would seem that shorter ball-dominant shooting guards are not very much in demand. Thank you Neil for a decade of so many of them. :beatinto:
 
If Allen trust is going to have a timeline of the offer being accepted by the end of 2025 as some reports detailed you might be right.

I had thought the process would take longer. But if its only 6 months the Blazers might just sit out most this summer, make a pick at #11, run it back for a new owner to decide.

Disappointing that were aiming for year 3 of benching Scoot & Sharpe - whom Cronin had said the franchise was being built around.

I guess I'd much prefer we run it back than we give Ant/Ayton huge extensions though.
Hopefully the "end of 25" timeline you mentioned stops extensions of players like Ant
 
I sure hope not but who the fuck knows. It is really important to remember that the majority of the time that we kept the Dame/CJ bullshit going that Cronin was second in command in our front office.

So yeah, I would love to say that I'm confident that a trade is more likely than an extension for Ant but unfortunately I can't.

Yeah but as soon as he was first in command, he started trading everyone Neil signed.
 
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Who could/would deal for Simons?
  1. Atlanta Hawks - don’t need him. Have Trae.
  2. Boston Celtics - can’t afford him unless they’re sending us White or Brown.
  3. Brooklyn Nets - already have a short scoring combo guard.
  4. Charlotte Hornets - not unless they’re sending LaMelo.
  5. Chicago Bulls - I don’t see it but maybe?
  6. Cleveland Cavaliers - they’re already trying to dump one of their short scoring guards.
  7. Dallas Mavericks - maybe
  8. Denver Nuggets - don’t need him
  9. Detroit Pistons - don’t need him
  10. Golden State Warriors - don’t need him
  11. Houston Rockets - don’t need him
  12. Indiana Pacers - don’t need him
  13. Los Angeles Clippers - don’t need him
  14. Los Angeles Lakers - maybe?
  15. Memphis Grizzlies - I don’t see it unless they’re moving Ja
  16. Miami Heat - don’t need him
  17. Milwaukee Bucks - maybe?
  18. Minnesota Timberwolves - don’t need him
  19. New Orleans Pelicans - don’t need him
  20. New York Knicks - can’t afford him
  21. Oklahoma City Thunder - don’t need him
  22. Orlando Magic - off the table
  23. Philadelphia 76ers - don’t need him
  24. Phoenix Suns - don’t need him
  25. Portland Trail Blazers - sad Blazer noises
  26. Sacramento Kings - maybe?
  27. San Antonio Spurs - don’t need him
  28. Toronto Raptors - probably don’t need him?
  29. Utah Jazz - maybe?
  30. Washington Wizards - don’t need him

Do the Remix need a short scoring combo guard?
 
I think Orlando could still get Simons in a 3 team deal
Simons to Orlando
Suggs to a new team (descending contract)
We get a pick from each team and take on some contracts

could make sense?
 
Simons to Orlando doesn't make any sense for them now. They don't have a starting spot available any longer - so theres no reason to give up a FRP for a backup. They also are going to have major luxury tax issues with Bane/Wanger/Paolo all on $200 million contracts.

They also don't need Ant's offense any longer with Bane. So you could argue role players like Isaac and Black with better defense are simply better for that team.

Maybe Dallas or another team would make sense as an Ant destination - but the Orlando ship has sailed.
 
So is Bane better than Simons? Why would Orlando want Bane over Simons? assuming Simons was a possibility for them to acquire if they wanted him. Because Bane is a better defender?
 


Somebody suggests Dallas for Ant and that actually makes sense, provided we were prepared to take on a selection of these guys:

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As most of them have longer contracts than Anfernee's, Dallas might actually be keen. And they can certainly handle some defensive lapses on the perimeter with AD and CF patrolling the paint. But I'd hope they'd throw in a first rounder if it did happen.
 


Somebody suggests Dallas for Ant and that actually makes sense, provided we were prepared to take on a selection of these guys:

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As all of them have longer contracts than Anfernee's, Dallas might actually be keen. And they can certainly handle some defensive lapses on the perimeter with AD and CF patrolling the paint. But I'd hope they'd throw in a first rounder if it did happen.

Ideally, any Dallas trade is a 3 team deal. Something like...

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Throw picks around as needed
 
So is Bane better than Simons?
Yes - without question

Why would Orlando want Bane over Simons? assuming Simons was a possibility for them to acquire if they wanted him.
Because Bane is a much better player and fits with the Orlando roster better.

Because Bane is a better defender?
Not just a better defender. It's a gigantic difference. A good defender vs being a chair...
Bane is also a better offensive player. It's not close IMO.
 
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