'THE BUSINESS SUCKS' AND OTHER PLAYER REACTIONS TO PLUMLEE REPORTEDLY BEING TRADED

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I get that teammates for relationships but they are being payed to perform and win and when your team is 8 games under .500 barely 50 games into the season, apparently those relationships weren't doing much for winning games.

If the Blazers were somewhere near HCA, then I get it. They are currently 1 game in front of the Kings and the Mavericks. How about less worry about being bff's and a little more concern for winning games.

What SUCKS is that the fans seem to care more than the players and are stuck paying to watch this nonsense.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Portland Trail Blazers players stunned by trade of Mason Plumlee, who was 'like a brother'

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/i...rs_stunned_by_trade_of.html#incart_river_home
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Better snap out of this Stunned paralysis crap with a quickness. IF they seriously cant see that some changes need to be made they players like Dame don't have as good of a grasp of this team as we have thought.

It sucks, And I don't expect anyone to come out and say... This was better for the team, other than management. But to be stunned.. come on now..
 
NO didn't trade Plums, the players did. There is a salary cap. From a self-interest POV it only makes sense to get as much $$$ for yourself that you can. However, taking more for yourself NECESSARILY means some of your teammates will get traded, period.

If you don't like the BUSINESS, be happy living off $10 mil or so a year.
 
Dame has said the same thing for 5 years about teammates leaving...from Mo Williams to Dorell Wright to Will Barton or Tim Frazier or TRob...I see nothing wrong with him respecting Mason like he did
 
Minstrel said:
Doesn't seem to be any anger or anything, just regret at losing a teammate they liked and felt brought a lot to the team. Sounds perfectly reasonable.
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I guess its just the word stunned that is getting me. As if they were thinking all was well in camp.
 
Orion Bailey said:
I guess its just the word stunned that is getting me. As if they were thinking all was well in camp.
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That was just the columnist's word, though. None of the players spoke about being stunned, nor did they sound stunned. They sounded like people who got news they weren't expecting and had to digest it and respond to it quickly.

Even if you know things aren't going well, Plumlee is not necessarily the guy you expect to be gone.
 
I think Dame and CJ were just showing disappointment that Mason was the guy that got traded and Meyers was showing relief that he wasn't that guy
 
Mediocre Man said:
Can we please have more Fabio breaking down how to play the center position
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Be careful what you ask for my friend. I was tempted to flood you with post after post of ML interviews about game tactics, etc.
But, I know you don't need any more fuel. :)
 
riverman said:
and Meyers was showing relief that he wasn't that guy
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If Leonard had been traded, the responses would have been more like:

"Olshey's amazing! Who'd we get?"

"Wait, he was still on the team? I thought he was just following us around, looking for autographs."

"Don't get me started on his Offensive and Defensive Rating."
 
I think part of the reason they're stunned is precisely because they DO care about winning. Plumlee was our third best player in terms of what he contributed. Make no mistake: if you're really serious about winning this season, you do not make this trade (particularly with the team you're fighting for 8th with). This sends a clear message that we're giving up on this season, and it's that along with their friendship with Plumlee that the players are feeling.
 
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^^^....but they are not winning. They are 1 game out of being #11 in the WC.
 
Hmmm.... a business where even marginally talented atheletes can make millions of dollars, achieve unheard of levels of fame and be surrounded by gangs of beautiful women. Yeah, it must really suck.
 
Scalma said:
Know what else sucks? Losing.
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Glad you got your guy. But I doubt this move had anything to do with losing mainly because I don't see Plumlee as a locker room cancer type.

I think he moved him because he wanted to get something out of the asset. Odd that that was such a priority and getting something out of Robin, LA and Wes was not just two years ago.

He received another draft pick. Let's see what he does with it. Last year he had a ton of cap space and did nothing with it. All is still not will. The team, the fans deserve a winning product. NOW. Not later. It's not time to get comfortable and call it the day. He has a lot of work to do. If not him, someone else which wouldn't hurt my feelings. If Okafor, Cousins and Butler are indeed available, he needs to make a run at them BEFORE THE DEADLINE.
 
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OneLifeToLive said:
Glad you got your guy. But I doubt this move had anything to do with losing mainly because I don't see Plumlee as a locker room cancer type.

I think he moved him because he wanted to get something out of the asset. Odd that that was such a priority and getting something out of Robin, LA and Wes was not just two years ago.

He received another draft pick. Let's see what he does with it. All is still not will. The team, the fans deserve a winning product. NOW. Not later. It's not time to get comfortable and call it the day. He has a lot of work to do. If not him, someone else which wouldn't hurt my feelings. If Okafor, Cousins and Butler are indeed available, he needs to make a run at them BEFORE THE DEADLINE.
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Portland has been in talks to acquire Okafor for several days now...sounds like they want more than we'll offer for him
 
OneLifeToLive said:
Glad you got your guy. But I doubt this move had anything to do with losing mainly because I don't see Plumlee as a locker room cancer type.

I think he moved him because he wanted to get something out of the asset. Odd that that was such a priority and getting something out of Robin, LA and Wes was not just two years ago.

He received another draft pick. Let's see what he does with it. All is still not will. The team, the fans deserve a winning product. NOW. Not later. It's not time to get comfortable and call it the day. He has a lot of work to do. If not him, someone else which wouldn't hurt my feelings. If Okafor, Cousins and Butler are indeed available, he needs to make a run at them BEFORE THE DEADLINE.
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This is true.

Though I don't share the amount of critique of past moves, He cant think he is done. There is absolutely more work to do. And I believe fully he knows this. He is acquiring picks. The best thing he can be doing. Gives him big trade power to either land a big star, trade up into the top three, or use them all and see who works out best and trade the rest next deadline.
Many options. This move untied his hands dramatically.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I think part of the reason they're stunned is precisely because they DO care about winning. Plumlee was our third best player in terms of what he contributed. Make no mistake: if you're really serious about winning this season, you do not make this trade (particularly with the team you're fighting for 8th with). This sends a clear message that we're giving up on this season, and it's that along with their friendship with Plumlee that the players are feeling.
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That is a good point. This makes the Blazers worse this season. Still a good move, considering this season is lost (sorry, KingSpeed, but "its teh truth" #MIXUM).
 
OneLifeToLive said:
Glad you got your guy. But I doubt this move had anything to do with losing mainly because I don't see Plumlee as a locker room cancer type.

I think he moved him because he wanted to get something out of the asset. Odd that that was such a priority and getting something out of Robin, LA and Wes was not just two years ago.

He received another draft pick. Let's see what he does with it. Last year he had a ton of cap space and did nothing with it. All is still not will. The team, the fans deserve a winning product. NOW. Not later. It's not time to get comfortable and call it the day. He has a lot of work to do. If not him, someone else which wouldn't hurt my feelings. If Okafor, Cousins and Butler are indeed available, he needs to make a run at them BEFORE THE DEADLINE.
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I'm not expecting us to immediately improve, I realize this is more of a long term move, and I'm ok with it, because his upside is higher than Plumlees.
 
Now that Bounce has updated our salary cap situation, it can be seen that Lillard and McCollum together take up HALF of our cap. That means 13 players are to take up the rest of the 50% of the cap - or 4.9% each. The other players want to make more than 5% of the cap. So, Lillard and McCollum, you should have just gotten Plums to agree to taking 5% of the cap, and I'm sure NO wouldn't have traded him.
 
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