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Okay, now there's gossip of Kevin Durant looking elsewhere, every team is imagining what they can offer for him. Why should we be different?

Personally, I don't want him here on anything other than him signing for a veteran's minimum.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Okay, now there's gossip of Kevin Durant looking elsewhere, every team is imagining what they can offer for him. Why should we be different?

Personally, I don't want him here on anything other than him signing for a veteran's minimum.
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He's not a free agent.
 
Without the 7th pick, I don't see a path that makes us contender for him without including Dame and it's not going to happen.
 
SwissBlazer said:
Without the 7th pick, I don't see a path that makes us contender for him without including Dame and it's not going to happen.
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we can still trade sharpe 30 days after signing him if the nets want him. hell his ~$6 mil contract would be a good addition to the package. Happened with Andrew Wiggins for Kevin Love. Wiggins actually played in Summer League for the Cavs before being traded for Minny.

Or we can also trade Sharpe next week before he signs his deal, but it would only be his draft rights so his $ could not be added to our trade package.
 
Portland is beneath KD just like it is for Kyrie.
 
Cugel said:
Portland is beneath KD just like it is for Kyrie.
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KD doesn't get a say because he just signed a long contract. So the Nets decide who is "beneath" KD.

There's nothing beneath Kyrie except a flat earth.
 
If kd leaves, the target should be ben Simmons, a sign and trade with ant maybe+ ebec
 
Sharpe draft rights, Ant sign and trade, Hart, Little, Keon, 3 first round picks (2025, 2027, 2029) and 3 first round pick swaps (2024, 2026, 2028) is the max the Blazers can send from what I can tell.

With Dame and Durant our pick would almost certainly convey to Chicago in 2023, thus the Nets should be fine getting conditional picks back that just say 2 years after pick conveys to Chicago. For example the Lakers did this to Orlando when acquiring Dwight Howard.

The Nets could also flip Irving to a team for draft picks. They could even flip Simmons eventually if they want too. Its really only two picks the Nets still owe Houston (2024, 2026), as most the swaps will probably see both teams suck. With all of our picks and some from Philly the Nets would have a lot of picks to build with, nothing like the Pierce/Garnett trade. Durant is going to be 34 before the season starts. There is some major bad downside risk to the Blazers, especially way out in 2029 when Durant and Dame are retired and that could be the #1 overall level of lottery pick. But it gives the Blazers their first real contending roster since 2000.

I actually don't believe the Blazer should quite offer all of this, 6 years of draft picks, Sharpe, Ant and Hart for a 34 year old Durant. Seems like the Blazers need to at the least keep Hart, Ant, or reduce the picks.
 
AmirIcon said:
I'm all for getting Ben, but not for Ant. Simmons' value is at an all-time low. Less valuable pieces and future picks would be fine though.
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You have to get the numbers and why the Nets would do it otherwise. They have to get $30m, picks and something of substance otherwise they will just try to rebuild around him from whatever they got from the Durant trade.

You have to give them something else to build around and keep asses in the seats - that's the most reasonable option, especially when you have to give the ball to Dame, Simmons and potentially Sharpe going forward - if you get Simmons and keep Ant (and I love Ant's game) - you have 4 people that need the ball on the roster - that's just too much...
 
andalusian said:
You have to give them something else to build around and keep asses in the seats - that's the most reasonable option, especially when you have to give the ball to Dame, Simmons and potentially Sharpe going forward - if you get Simmons and keep Ant (and I love Ant's game) - you have 4 people that need the ball on the roster - that's just too much...
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Simmons has never had high usage. He's hovered around 20% for his whole career, and has at times had like the 5th highest on the Sixers teams. It's one of the reasons I really wanted him last year. He gets a ton of assists for how little he holds the ball.
 
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In two months, we could also include Grant in these discussions
 
Nets? To stop moving them for the Wallace trade, and taking Crabbe even after we matched that offer sheet.
 
The most I would trade is Hart, Little 3 firsts, and 3 swaps. OR Simons, 2 first and 3 swaps. I'd also sub in Sharpe instead of either Little or Simons. Of course you also throw in EBEC to match salaries. Those are the upper limit though. I really don't like Durant, but I REALLY like Dame winning a ring in Portland and the team we'd have left would be not only contenders but a top 4 squad in the league.

PG Dame
SG Simons
SF Grant
PF Durant
C Nurkic

With Sharpe developing off the bench and then really who cares? Get some vet mins and give run to Keon, Winslow, Watford, Brown, and Walker.
 
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The goal should be to get a star for Dame to play but then there are actually people who say no to Simmons and KD? WTF? One of those guys would drastically improve our team provided Dame doesn’t go out in the trade.
 
Idog1976 said:
Most I would trade is Hart, Little 3 firsts, and 3 swaps. OR Simons, 2 first and 3 swaps. I'd also sub in Sharpe instead of either Little or Simons also throw in EBEC to match salaries. Those are the upper limit though. I really don't like Durant, but I REALLY like Dame winning a ring in Portland and the team we'd have left would be not only contenders but a top 4 squad in the league.

PG Dame
SG Simons
SF Grant
PF Durant
C Nurkic

With Sharpe developing off the bench and then really who cares? Get some vet mins and give run to Keon, Winslow, Watford, Brown, and Walker.
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I want to wait and see what this squad does, but I would offer Ant, Grant, and 2 1sts, 2 pick swaps at the deadline though. If they’re trading KD, I’m guessing they’d want “one young player, one vet, multiple 1sts” as part of a rebuild effort.

Durant is under contract for three years after this upcoming season. By next season, it’s possible than one of (or both) Sharpe or Nas can start.

Dame/Sharpe/Nas/KD/Nurk

If Sharpe pops, it really allows us to explore trades for Hart (for a starting forward) or Ant (for a superstar forward). For KD though, I’d rather see Grant out than Hart out.

Sharpe next to Dame and KD would be scary. It’s too bad we wouldn’t take on a salary for Duren. Duren with that lineup would maximize his abilities.
 
BankTeller said:
I want to wait and see what this squad does, but I would offer Ant, Grant, and 2 1sts, 2 pick swaps at the deadline though. If they’re trading KD, I’m guessing they’d want “one young player, one vet, multiple 1sts” as part of a rebuild effort.

Durant is under contract for three years after this upcoming season. By next season, it’s possible than one of (or both) Sharpe or Nas can start.

Dame/Sharpe/Nas/KD/Nurk

If Sharpe pops, it really allows us to explore trades for Hart (for a starting forward) or Ant (for a superstar forward). For KD though, I’d rather see Grant out than Hart out.

Sharpe next to Dame and KD would be scary. It’s too bad we wouldn’t take on a salary for Duren. Duren with that lineup would maximize his abilities.
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Yeah the guys I wanted at our pick or lower in order were Sharpe, Sochan and Duren. I had fantasies about getting all three, but we got the best of the 3 so there's that. I think we may have gotten the best player in the draft in terms of their career. We got the Superstar potential guy. Holmgren in theory has a higher ceiling, but I think Sharpe is 10x more likely to reach it. Ivey will likely be the best of the 3 who have the highest ceilings in the next year or two, but in 5 years I bet Sharpe is easily the best of the 3 and quite likely the best out of this draft.
 
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