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Hoopguru said:
Goal - Send team to the moon...time line
Tactic - establish engineering team....time line
Tactic - decide what launch site to use...time line
Tactic - Procure rocket engines...time line
etc..

Goal - get team back from the moon...time line
Tactic - assemble retrieve team...time line
Tactic - check off on all systems a go...time line

Goal - acquire super star small forward....time line
Tactic - contacts all agents...time line
Tactic - narrow targets to two potentials...time line
tactic - make offers and sign....time line

Goals can be weighted as priority
Goals must be measurable
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I think you avoided the point - yes, tactics are necessary to reach a goal. They aren't necessary to set a goal. Goals can be measurable even without a plan.
OB getting elected president - easily measurable - how many electoral votes will he get? But no plan exists (yet).

barfo
 
barfo said:
Sure, if I agree I usually don't bother responding. Not a big fan of constantly posting "THIS."

Conception of an goal usually comes before tactics to achieve the goal. With complex goals, the tactics may take quite some time to work out.

When we decided to go to the moon, were all of the tactics fully worked out before the goal was announced? When we entered WWII, were all the battle plans drawn up ahead of time?

barfo
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If you're Donald Trump then the answers are yes. However, his tactics involve the repeated use of a magic wand.
 
barfo said:
I think you avoided the point - yes, tactics are necessary to reach a goal. They aren't necessary to set a goal. Goals can be measurable even without a plan.
OB getting elected president - easily measurable - how many electoral votes will he get? But no plan exists (yet).

barfo
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I didn't say they were need to set a goal. But they are certainly needed to accomplish a goal.

Goal...lose 200 lbs....ok, steps are you going to take to hit your goal.
If I had an employee tell me his goal was to increase sales by 20% and he couldn't tell me what is tactics/steps were to achieve it and with whom, Id ask him to provide me the information with time lines.
Its easy to blurt out a goal the tough part is the plan to achieve it.
 
barfo said:
The posting history suggests otherwise.

barfo
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You are missing the point. My goal to be president is a laughable one because i dont have a plan.

What cortez says is laughable because she has no plan.

It really is as simple as that. You can skirt the point all you what. The point is still there and valid.
 
MarAzul said:
Yes but it sounds good to a liberal ear. She will get away with this level of drivel.
She will pay the price for take credit for foiling Amazon coming to New York.
That will bite a big chunk out, not too far out either.
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Yeah i dont think she really knows what she did there...
 
Orion Bailey said:
You are missing the point. My goal to be president is a laughable one because i dont have a plan.

What cortez says is laughable because she has no plan.

It really is as simple as that. You can skirt the point all you what. The point is still there and valid.
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You can laugh all you want at her for not having a plan. That's fine.

I don't think she claims to have one, though. I think she'd say she wants to discuss goals first, before making plans.

barfo
 
barfo said:
The posting history suggests otherwise.

barfo
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barfo said:
You can laugh all you want at her for not having a plan. That's fine.

I don't think she claims to have one, though. I think she'd say she wants to discuss goals first, before making plans.

barfo
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Im good with discussing goals before authoring and implementing a plan to achieve and/or improve.
But, before calling a press conference (which would be part of a plan) with a contingent of supporters, you'd think there was some sort of plan already created? Its kind of unrealistic to announce certain objectives without measurable criteria to accomplish?
 
Hoopguru said:
Im good with discussing goals before authoring and implementing a plan to achieve and/or improve.
But, before calling a press conference (which would be part of a plan) with a contingent of supporters, you'd think there was some sort of plan already created? Its kind of unrealistic to announce certain objectives without measurable criteria to accomplish?
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I think she's trying to get national consensus on the goals. The way to do that is to get people talking about it.

I don't think that's a bad thing. It gives citizens a chance to debate the issue. The alternative is to have politicians cook something up in a back room and pass it without discussion.

barfo
 
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barfo said:
I think she's trying to get national consensus on the goals. The way to do that is to get people talking about it.

I don't think that's a bad thing. It gives citizens a chance to debate the issue. The alternative is to have politicians cook something up in a back room and pass it without discussion.

barfo
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Have you started following her?
 
Hoopguru said:
Have you started following her?
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If you mean following in the sense of following on Twitter, I'm not on twitter, so I'm not following anyone.

If you mean in the sense of being led by her, she's not my congressperson.

If you mean in the sense of stalking her, I will take your idea under consideration.

barfo
 
barfo said:
If you mean following in the sense of following on Twitter, I'm not on twitter, so I'm not following anyone.

If you mean in the sense of being led by her, she's not my congressperson.

If you mean in the sense of stalking her, I will take your idea under consideration.

barfo
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lol....classic
Hey, I commend you for not being a twitterer.
Is your congressperson being led by her?
Nothing wrong with looking!
 
BrianFromWA said:
And her reward? Having her (alleged) campaign finance fraud filed with the Federal Election Commission. Supposedly, paying your side piece is supposed to come from personal money, not campaign funds. I think?
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I'm not sure you are using that term correctly, as it implies an illicit relationship. Far as I know they are both unmarried?

barfo
 
I may not be. I thought it was a euphemism for “boyfriend”, “partner”, “friend with benefits”, etc. I was not implying that the relationship was illegal.
 
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