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Natebishop3 said:
That's great but do you really feel like the federal government has been efficient at spending?
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I am sure every.large organization has waste. I vastly disagree with many government priorities.

President Musk has gotten rid of Inspectors General whose job was to find waste. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau returned $20 billion to Americans that had been ripped off from them by business fraud. They fired those who enforce ethics standards.

Could efficiency be improved? No doubt.

Musk is doing opposite.

How efficient was it to fire nuclear safety team because he didn't know what they did and now trying to unfire them but can't since their government email accounts were all deactivated? To fire bird flu prevention? Wildfire prevention? Public health? These people prevent disasters that can cost billions and a lot of lives.
 
crandc said:
I am sure every.large organization has waste. I vastly disagree with many government priorities.

President Musk has gotten rid of Inspectors General whose job was to find waste. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau returned $20 billion to Americans that had been ripped off from them by business fraud. They fired those who enforce ethics standards.

Could efficiency be improved? No doubt.

Musk is doing opposite.

How efficient was it to fire nuclear safety team because he didn't know what they did and now trying to unfire them but can't since their government email accounts were all deactivated? To fire bird flu prevention? Wildfire prevention? Public health? These people prevent disasters that can cost billions and a lot of lives.
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I feel like you're just repeating back what I said.
 
crandc said:
I am saying what doge boys are doing is opposite of efficiency.
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Exactly. Which is why I said "doing it in a months time is madness. And they're making stupid decisions that they have to revert, like the DOE cuts and the FDA cuts. That SHOWS me that they're not actually doing good analysis. They're just cutting shit and trying to break things. It seems to blatantly obvious why they're doing it"
 
Natebishop3 said:
Exactly. Which is why I said "doing it in a months time is madness. And they're making stupid decisions that they have to revert, like the DOE cuts and the FDA cuts. That SHOWS me that they're not actually doing good analysis. They're just cutting shit and trying to break things. It seems to blatantly obvious why they're doing it"
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I think the vast majority of us agree with that.
The question for all of us is, what are we going to do about it?

barfo
 
barfo said:
I think the vast majority of us agree with that.
The question for all of us is, what are we going to do about it?

barfo
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As Oregonians, what can we do? We already elected Democrats to the house and senate.

Refuse to pay taxes?

Put a measure on the ballot to secede?

Protesting in Oregon is worthless. Nobody in Washington cares if Oregonians protest. You can start putting together a well regulated militia.
 
Natebishop3 said:
As Oregonians, what can we do? We already elected Democrats to the house and senate.

Refuse to pay taxes?

Put a measure on the ballot to secede?

Protesting in Oregon is worthless. Nobody in Washington cares if Oregonians protest. You can start putting together a well regulated militia.
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Secession seems like a real possibility at this point. Instead of Canada becoming the 51st state, I wouldn't be surprised to see the entire Pacific Coast try to become the 14th, 15th, and 16th provinces.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Secession seems like a real possibility at this point. Instead of Canada becoming the 51st state, I wouldn't be surprised to see the entire Pacific Coast try to become the 14th, 15th, and 16th provinces.
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Wouldn't we then be invaded by the US military?
 
Phatguysrule said:
Wouldn't we then be invaded by the US military?
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It would need to be a joint effort by California, Washington, and Oregon with assurances from European allies that they would support us. But there's really nothing else we can do.

One thing I have been thinking about though - are any of you worried that things you have said online will get you on a list? People are imprisoned in places like Russia, Iran, and Turkey if they speak out about their tyrannical governments online.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Wouldn't we then be invaded by the US military?
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Perhaps. You have to wonder how on-board with such an invasion the various members of the US military would be. Especially if the secession also included the NE states. That would be a pretty big section of the population.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Perhaps. You have to wonder how on-board with such an invasion the various members of the US military would be. Especially if the secession also included the NE states. That would be a pretty big section of the population.
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The bigger question is.... what happens to all the major bases in California and Washington? The Navy has major ports in both states.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The bigger question is.... what happens to all the major bases in California and Washington? The Navy has major ports in both states.
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And if it were to all come down to money, how large of a ransom would C/O/W have to pay to Trumperica to be released free of resistance?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
And if it were to all come down to money, how large of a ransom would C/O/W have to pay to Trumperica to be released free of resistance?
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There's no way they'd let California go without a fight.

Who would have thought that the Civil War movie from the last couple years would be true? Although I don't see California and Texas teaming up.
 
Natebishop3 said:
It would need to be a joint effort by California, Washington, and Oregon with assurances from European allies that they would support us. But there's really nothing else we can do.

One thing I have been thinking about though - are any of you worried that things you have said online will get you on a list? People are imprisoned in places like Russia, Iran, and Turkey if they speak out about their tyrannical governments online.
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They'd have to imprison a lot of people. Millions.
 
This might take the cake for the most off the rails thread on this site. Straight up Infowars comments section during the Obama years. Extremely entertaining, however.
 
Are you guys even going outside anymore at this point? Or playing safe and hiding out?
 
Shaboid said:
Did you guys watch the dark gothic maga video I posted above? Secession plays right into these tech billionaires hands.
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not that democrats have shied away from playing right into tech billionaires hands before
 
jonnyboy said:
This might take the cake for the most off the rails thread on this site. Straight up Infowars comments section during the Obama years. Extremely entertaining, however.
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So, you are cool with Trump becoming King? With him dissolving checks and balances by taking away power from the other branches of government?

Can't say I'm surprised.
 
Chris Craig said:
So, you are cool with Trump becoming King? With him dissolving checks and balances by taking away power from the other branches of government?

Can't say I'm surprised.
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Remember, logic doesn’t work with these types of people. They consider it to be leftist propaganda perpetuated by the universities.
 
DaLong said:
Remember, logic doesn’t work with these types of people. They consider it to be leftist propaganda perpetuated by the universities.
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Oh my God, I was taught to think for myself...the humanity.

Maybe there is also a false sense of security going on in being at the devil's side instead of in front of him.
 
There’s just something sort of anti-climactic in screaming about how the end times are upon us for the 3,614th time in 8 years.
The left’s currency of fear mongering has lost its value. You guys just appear insane.
 
jonnyboy said:
There’s just something sort of anti-climactic in screaming about how the end times are upon us for the 3,614th time in 8 years.
The left’s currency of fear mongering has lost its value. You guys just appear insane.
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He just signed the executive order to king himself. You're going to argue that?
 
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