The Gay Parenthood Dynamic - Question

[BlazerCaravan]

Lighten the fuck up, Eric.

Don't you have some food you need to take out of people's mouths or something?

 

[maxiep]

Don't you have some food you need to take out of people's mouths or something?

Nope. I'm on a glide path now. #ThxObama

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Nope. I'm on a glide path now. #ThxObama

If you have no dog in the race, quit yelling like you have a bet on one.

 

[maxiep]

If you have no dog in the race, quit yelling like you have a bet on one.

I think I'll do whatever the fuck I please. If you don't like it, tough shit.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I think I'll do whatever the fuck I please. If you don't like it, tough shit.

lighten the fuck up, max

 

[maxiep]

lighten the fuck up, max

I'm trying, but people are just too touchy.

 

[crandc]

ABM, back to your sister, abusive relationships happen in all colors. Including lavender. Your sister may be bi, she may be closeted, I don't know her, I can't say. Born again churches specialize in guilt tripping people. That's how they get control, by telling a person everything they've done is sinful and they must pray and repent and stop others, by force, from doing what they did. Like the women who have abortions at 15, then 20 years later join born again churches and try to outlaw abortion so other 15 year olds can never have the choice they did, because they are told god will never forgive them otherwise.

To those who say being gay is a choice, tell me when and how you decided to be straight. Sat down, thought out the relative advantages of being gay and being straight, maybe talked it over with your folks, and decided to be straight. Of course, this never happened. It's not a career choice. It's inherent.

One difference between "racial" variation (in quotes since race is really biological and not social but that's a different discussion) and sexual variation is that, in most cases, people cannot hide their racial variation but can hide their sexual variation. That's why someone can ask how is it genetic, no one in my family was gay until this generation. Horse manure. They were gay, they hid it. They entered arranged or convenient marriages, without love or desire. They got it on the side. Or they spent their lives wondering what was wrong with them, why they were unhappy, thinking they were the only person in the world who felt this way. It's no healthier than a fair skinned African-American "passing" as white, hearing the n-word, seeing lynching, keeping quiet.

As for people going where they feel comfortable, that's true to an extent, but ironically I just read an article about gay families in small Southern towns. Not exactly San Francisco, you know.

 

[ABM]

As for how it would affect their own dating/romantic relationships, I imagine they'd be more likely to look for a relationship with an accepting kid. Yes, if a child of an LGBT parent(s) fell in love with a person who was extremely prejudiced or whose family was extremely prejudiced it would cause problems but so would the child of a Jewish family falling for an evangelical Christian, a liberal falling for a conservative, an African-American falling for a white kid from a prejudiced family.

So maybe we should all just get along?

First of all, hope you're feeling better. ....which reminds me, this is soup/stew weather! Need to make me some!!

That's some sage stuff you wrote. Thanks for the feedback. I kind of lost it in the shuffle. Sorry about that. I had written about my nephew and niece being raised by my (then gay) sister and her gal. Today, both of them are very adjusted and successful in their personal lives. They are married (both of them have been married this one time) and have raised wonderful families. I guess what I am saying is, I've kind of answered my own question in regards to how being raised in a gay family situation would/might affect the children's path towards their own relationships. In this case, seemingly not one iota.

As I had been raised in a pretty conservative family life, I picked up some different views on the matter. In fact, back when my sis was with this gal, there was a time when she wasn't allowed to bring her over to my folks' house. (I was still living at home at the time.) It got rather complicated, and in some cases, acrimonious, as my sister refused to come over if her girlfriend wasn't allowed. I had forgotten about that until just now. I need to ask her how they ended up resolving all that. I know they did because I remember on more than one occasion that they were both over for dinner and such.

Anyway, again, hope you're feeling better and, yes, I concur that we should all just get along. Cheers to ya.

PS: We were writing to each other at the same time. Nyce.

 

[ABM]

To those who say being gay is a choice, tell me when and how you decided to be straight. Sat down, thought out the relative advantages of being gay and being straight, maybe talked it over with your folks, and decided to be straight. Of course, this never happened. It's not a career choice. It's inherent.

In my sister's case, she dedicated her life to Christ. This, following a nearly 10-year lesbian relationship. This, following years of ardently defending her lesbianism to my folks. This, following years of ridicule and the like from friends. This, following nearly 10 years of co-raising her children with her lesbian lover.

All that said, once she made the decision to follow Christ (not coerced or manipulated by anyone or any group. Simply, a personal conviction and decision), she turned away from that relationship, that way of living her life, and has never looked back. That was nearly 25 years ago.

I'm not placing my own opinions or feelings here. Simply, stating the facts on the matter. Is was what it was, and is what it is.

 

[porkchopexpress]

Despite still being stuck somewhere around 57% of the votes counted, the opponents of R74 in Washington have officially conceded.

http://seattletimes.com/html/politics/2019636466_gaymarriage09m.html

And to celebrate, heres a great song by a Seattle artist. I think I'll always remember that the year WA approved this, a local (and independent) rapper went #1 on iTunes and #2 on Billboard with an album that featured a pro gay/gay marriage message

[video=youtube;hlVBg7_08n0]

 

[crandc]

I'm old, so I still heed the words of Bob Dylan

The old world is rapidly aging
Please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand
For the times, they are a'changing.

And of course, when I was around 11 I thought this was too corny. Now, it's an anthem.

Going to the chapel and we're
Going to get married...

 

[Denny Crane]

^^^ Would you want to get married in a church or other religious institution?

 

[crandc]

Was that for me, Denny?

Frankly I'm unlikely to get married. Around age 13, before I thought of myself as gay, I decided I'd never get married or have kids. Many decades later, still don't want to. I also became an atheist at age 13. I guess that's when I started thinking of things.

But if I change my mind and the law changes, I'd have a secular wedding.

 

[Denny Crane]

Yeah. You brought up "going to the chapel."

 

[MARIS61]

Yeah, it's really great in North Carolina where gays can't get married and thus can't visit their partners in the hospital. Sure, it's nice to joke about but there's nothing good about having limited rights. Think before you post .

NY has the same restrictions, according to an old Law and Order SVU episode.

 

[ABM]

Frankly I'm unlikely to get married.

Why not? I think you're a super sweetheart. Hey, I think I met you at the Lucky Lab a number of years ago. If that was you, then yep, you're a super sweetheart.

 

[magnifier661]

NY has the same restrictions, according to an old Law and Order SVU episode.

Dang and ny is considered one of the more liberal states. Guess that blew king speeds hick analogy out of the water.

 

[porkchopexpress]

Dang and ny is considered one of the more liberal states. Guess that blew king speeds hick analogy out of the water.

Well, considering NY state approved same sex marriage last year and NC banned not only same sex marriage, but any same sex union, his "analogy" holds true. Not sure if Law and Order - SVU, a show that's been on 13 years, is something you want to be citing as a proof of a very current legal issue.