THe harsher penalty

[Dmoney]

We have been having this debate in my law class, What do you think is the harsher penalty, Death or life in prision without parole.I mean with death you don't really have to suffer, with life in prision you have to suffer and stuff.

 

[BrewCityBuck]

Living forever in a hellhole...I like life in prison...saves taxpayers money and they have to rot there forever.

 

[BigMo763]

Life in prison. Why? Death is the easy way out, in my opinion, because the person really doesn't "suffer." OK, he dies, but so what? He's going to die eventually, right? So, why not throw him in prison for the rest of his life, let him rot their, and he will eventually die... both "penalties" in one right there.Also, as BCB mentioned, it is also cheaper to put a person in prison for life than it is to give them the death penalty.

 

[Noah]

Give 'em death

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Noah @ Dec 8 2006, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Give 'em death</div>Ugh, your so ignorant. Why? It costs taxpayers millions of dollars...and for what? To kill a guy that would sit in a cell and never get released anyway? Waste of money.

 

[ReppinTheD]

I say get rid of them asap - and I don't want those gay shots that kill you painlessly and cost like a bunch of tax money - just fricken shoot them - costs no money and gets rid of criminals quickly.We dont have the time or money to be wasting our time on idiots on death row.

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Dec 8 2006, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I say get rid of them asap - and I don't want those gay shots that kill you painlessly and cost like a bunch of tax money - just fricken shoot them - costs no money and gets rid of criminals quickly.We dont have the time or money to be wasting our time on idiots on death row.</div> Well it will never work that way...so put that fantasy in the chair.

 

[ReppinTheD]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Dec 8 2006, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well it will never work that way...so put that fantasy in the chair.</div>I know.

lol that was probably too extreme anyway - im in a bad mood lol

 

[BrewCityBuck]

I wonder why Mr. Ignorant has not replied yet.

 

[redneck]

personally I think being in prison for life would be worse than dying. the death penatly is only expensive because of the number of appeals and legal BS that goes on before a convict gets death. I believe it should be one appeal and if you lose that than you die. also it shouldn't be this lethal injection sh*t, thats another thing that cost a lot of money. it should be a bullet, its quick painless, effective and cheap.

 

[BALLAHOLLIC]

I agree with everybody else, Living in prison is much worse than being put to death. Dying is easy, Suffering every day in prison lasts your entire life.

 

[abc]

If prison is better why do most defendants fight so hard to stay alive in jail?

 

[LAZY]

Life in jail without parole. That would be emotionally tough thinking about the rest of your life...in jail

 

[ASUFan22]

Life in a gay prison.Rule #1: Don't drop the soap.

 

[The`Dream]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Also, as BCB mentioned, it is also cheaper to put a person in prison for life than it is to give them the death penalty</div>Its actually ALOT more expensive to put a person in prison for life then to give them the death penalty. It can cost like 30k taxpayer dollars to pay a prisoner through one year.

 

[ASUFan22]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L_C @ Dec 11 2006, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Its actually ALOT more expensive to put a person in prison for life then to give them the death penalty. It can cost like 30k taxpayer dollars to pay a prisoner through one year.</div>That's true. One of my teachers was talking about that a month ago and damn...these prisoners get treated really well! And some of the homeless probably do stuff to get in jail just because it's a better life for them. It does cost a lot of money to keep people n jail for a long time.

 

[BrewCityBuck]

Putting someone in prison for life is just more efficient in general, thats why most states don't bother with executions. They tie up the courts and are an appeals mess. The system doesn't work so most people who get the death penalty end up sitting in prison for a long time anyway. My opinion is, I don't think the government or the court system should be allowed to kill people.

 

[yankshater213]

I've heard arguments both for and against it. There are catches for both too. Death Penalty is cruel and unusual? So is locking someone in a cell for the rest of their life and blocking them out of society. Harsh and yes cruel, but I think sitting in a cell for life is more harsh and better punishment than killing someone. Plus if you have any morals, killing someone for some crime they committed is just stooping to the criminals level.

 

[Noah]

How f*cking harsh is it, when they've got meals each day, their laundry done, a warm place to sleep (not out on the street), they're working and earning money (it's like 15 cents/hour, but still!), they get to work out/play b-ball in the yard, even free satellite f*cking TV for christ's sake! f*cking kill 'em, get it done and over with and move onto the next one.

 

[abc]

Believe me Death is much harsher. Even if they are in a room for the rest of there life...why do you think they fight SO hard to stay alive in prison. However I DO NOT think that execution is ethical (only in extreme cases like mass murder (50+ish).

 

[Noah]

Oh, so it's OK to kill 49 people/babies/children then.

 

[abc]

I didn't mean exactly 50. I meant if you kill 1 or 2 people spend the rest of your life in jail. But if its mass, then execute them, I don't think death for death(s) is ethical.

 

[yankshater213]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Noah @ Dec 13 2006, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How f*cking harsh is it, when they've got meals each day, their laundry done, a warm place to sleep (not out on the street), they're working and earning money (it's like 15 cents/hour, but still!), they get to work out/play b-ball in the yard, even free satellite f*cking TV for christ's sake!</div>That's not even the issue. Educate yourself on American Prison Systems before you talk about them. There are esentially two kinds of jail, the one where you committed a petty crime, where they get all the ammenities you listed, and the other jail, where you murdered someone or committed a huge crime, the latter of which get nothing you listed. They are basically placed in solitary confinement. Do me a favor, and befor eyou judge how harsh it is, go sit in your room all day and do nothing, just sit on the floor, eat 3 small meals, and go to the bathroom if you need to and see how socially connected you feel. The point of all that is to dissociate the criminals that commit these crimes with society so people feel safe and sh*t. Killing them is as someone pointed out unethical and just stooping to their level. It costs more money to kill them than to just keep them in confinement, which is just as effective as killing them. Your post that I quoted makes no sense and has no relevance in this argument because they don't get those ammenities where they are after they commit a major crime.

 

[Noah]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yankshater213 @ Dec 13 2006, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's not even the issue. Educate yourself on American Prison Systems before you talk about them. There are esentially two kinds of jail, the one where you committed a petty crime, where they get all the ammenities you listed, and the other jail, where you murdered someone or committed a huge crime, the latter of which get nothing you listed. They are basically placed in solitary confinement. Do me a favor, and befor eyou judge how harsh it is, go sit in your room all day and do nothing, just sit on the floor, eat 3 small meals, and go to the bathroom if you need to and see how socially connected you feel. The point of all that is to dissociate the criminals that commit these crimes with society so people feel safe and sh*t. Killing them is as someone pointed out unethical and just stooping to their level. It costs more money to kill them than to just keep them in confinement, which is just as effective as killing them. Your post that I quoted makes no sense and has no relevance in this argument because they don't get those ammenities where they are after they commit a major crime.</div>Oh, so you've actually been to prison, eh? It's solitary confinement for EVERY SINGLE PRISONER in the state penitentiary, is it? Really? You SURE about that? Because in the state penn, they DO indeed get all of the amenities I've listed, and they've raped/killed/stolen, etc. Here's the difference: There's PRISON - Which is what we're talking aboutAnd then there's JAIL - Which is where you go for DUI's and spend the night before posting bail the next morning

 

[Clangus]

wow I didn't know it cost more to put them to death!What they should do is get a bullet and shoot em in the head - that would cost like 60cents.I think death is the harsher one. Life in prison is still life - you'd have people to talk to and tehy get books and yard time - sounds like a holiday to me (im joking about that last part b4 someone gets sh*tty)

 

[abc]

Not at all Clangus, think of all the apeals one would have to go through before they could shoot someone in the head. It cost money to do all that.They can just be accused, jude rules Guilty and shoot them 20 minutes later.

 

[Clangus]

I know dude. Of course they cant - BUT if you are caught in the act..... then "bang"

 

[ElMaster]

I don't know why is harsher, but the majority of people think death penalty is. Today a puerto rican was killed by lethal injection in Florida because of a murder he supposedly committed, and it was all over the news. I mean every channel at the same time.

 

[The`Dream]

Life in prison may seem more humane, but really, shouldn't we kill people who have killed multiple people? I mean these people have already proven they are detrimental to society, and are hopeless to change for the better. They are just going to sit in a prison and leech even more from the wallet's of citizens.

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L_C @ Dec 14 2006, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Life in prison may seem more humane, but really, shouldn't we kill people who have killed multiple people? I mean these people have already proven they are detrimental to society, and are hopeless to change for the better. They are just going to sit in a prison and leech even more from the wallet's of citizens.</div>The cost difference in keeping a person in prison for life versus a death penalty case is not that much.The system doesn't work where we can kill tons of people. If we 'kill' every person who has killed people our court system would be in limbo and it would be costing taxpayers hundreds of millions for the cases. I wouldn't mind getting rid of those slime too sometimes but this country doesn't work that way.