The "How are Aldridge, Batum, Lopez, and Matthews Doing?" Thread

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ChadWick said:
Now we can say that Barton trade was one of the worst trades we've done. That is a fact. But it's only because we know what happens. Afflalo was beyond a disappointment and straight trash after all this championship hype he had for us(Fuck Afflalo). But I would do it again every time back in the circumstance...it did give us that extra bump to go farther in the playoffs. The Matthews injury just imploded everything.
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But Afflalo should've been the answer to the Matthews injury and he wasn't.
 
I thought both Afflalo and Nico were playing through some nagging injuries, too.

And yes, Afflalo was more stoked to come here than any player I've ever seen. He was even posting video of himself working out and showing his excitement.

Just because the strategy didn't work out due to unfortunate and unforeseen circumstances, and just because one of the players traded has a good season down the road doesn't make it a bad trade. We are always talking about cashing in on some team needing to obtain a player to get them over the hump (like say, Henderson), and that team trading us a young player with potential to do it. Will Barton was that promising young player, who wasn't providing us with shit at the time, even though he might in the future. That's what you do when you are trying to contend. That's what the Blazers did. It was a good trade at the time.
 
The Afflalo hate makes no sense to me. He was brought here to be a backup. He was thrust into the starting lineup because of the injury to Wes. He barely played before he hurt his shoulder, and that injury was so bad that a lot of people thought he would be out for the remainder of the season when they first saw it. He came back and played through the injury for the playoffs, and was mercilessly ridiculed for it. It's not his fault that we traded for him. It's not his fault that he and Wes got hurt. Some of you are ridiculous.
 
Afflalo played like shit for us, but to be fair, he was playing pretty shit for the Nuggets before we traded for him, so caveat emptor I guess.
 
And, as with Jermaine O'Neal or Zach Randolph, I don't think we should regret too much letting Will go. Jermaine and Zach almost certainly would not have become what they became if they'd stayed - sometimes you need a change of scenery and a kick in the ass to realize your potential. So good for Will: fly free little bird!
 
Rastapopoulos said:
And, as with Jermaine O'Neal or Zach Randolph, I don't think we should regret too much letting Will go. Jermaine and Zach almost certainly would not have become what they became if they'd stayed - sometimes you need a change of scenery and a kick in the ass to realize your potential. So good for Will: fly free little bird!
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I think Will could have still achieved the same level of success, but we were in "win now" mode last year. Neil was trying desperately to get Aldridge to stay. We had no bench and we needed consistent scoring. Will and TRob were too inconsistent and out of control to get regular minutes on a veteran playoff team. Will would be perfect on this current roster though.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
And, as with Jermaine O'Neal or Zach Randolph, I don't think we should regret too much letting Will go. Jermaine and Zach almost certainly would not have become what they became if they'd stayed - sometimes you need a change of scenery and a kick in the ass to realize your potential. So good for Will: fly free little bird!
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Zach was already who he was when he was with us. He was 20 and 10 with us thats why we gave him a max contract. So to say Zach certainly would not have become what they became if they'd stayed is wrong..
 
Tunchi said:
Zach was already who he was when he was with us. He was 20 and 10 with us thats why we gave him a max contract. So to say Zach certainly would not have become what they became if they'd stayed is wrong..
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I don't think he's talking about numbers alone. Zach did a lot of growing up between Portland and Memphis. He was traded three times in a span of a few years. He became less selfish and played better defense.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I don't think he's talking about numbers alone. Zach did a lot of growing up between Portland and Memphis. He was traded three times in a span of a few years. He became less selfish and played better defense.
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Yea thats true
 
Will is a far better player as a rotation player with the Nuggets and has a green light to score...Will benefited from development here and improved over the summer...he still has had a few stinkers in Denver but they have less competition for him than we did for minutes....TRob is not doing much.I like Will. Mo Williams is playing really well in Cleveland too
 
riverman said:
Will is a far better player as a rotation player with the Nuggets and has a green light to score...Will benefited from development here and improved over the summer...he still has had a few stinkers in Denver but they have less competition for him than we did for minutes....TRob is not doing much.I like Will. Mo Williams is playing really well in Cleveland too
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Mo Williams is a stud. Thats why I was so pissed we didn't do everything we could to keep him. Yes his defense wasn't the best but man could he light it up for our anemic bench. I cant believe we thought Steve Blake was an upgrade NOW he was trash. I don't find it ironic we made the second round after all these years while Mo was the backup PG. He was the perfect fit
 
there really was no reason we couldn't have done something to keep him around. I was totally pissed we just let him walk as well.
 
Tunchi said:
Mo Williams is a stud. Thats why I was so pissed we didn't do everything we could to keep him. Yes his defense wasn't the best but man could he light it up for our anemic bench. I cant believe we thought Steve Blake was an upgrade NOW he was trash. I don't find it ironic we made the second round after all these years while Mo was the backup PG. He was the perfect fit
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His defense was atrocious but I didn't care. I agree. He was a stud and perfect for us.
 
ChadWick said:
His defense was atrocious but I didn't care. I agree. He was a stud and perfect for us.
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I agree too. Never understood the hate mo got. Sure he had bad mo games, but he was the best bench player we had in years and a former 6th man of the year winner. Mos a fine player.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
I agree too. Never understood the hate mo got. Sure he had bad mo games, but he was the best bench player we had in years and a former 6th man of the year winner. Mos a fine player.
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When did he win 6th man of the year?
 
KingAlbertoJrSpeed said:
When did he win 6th man of the year?
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I guess I was wrong. Could have sworn that he did on the clippers, but apparently he came in 8th in the voting.

Imo he's the same type of player as Jamal Crawford, jason terry and even our very own Cj McCollum. A great bench scorer
 
Natebishop3 said:
Mo was garbage. He'd have one good game and then 3-4 crappy ones. He'd make a good play, and then he'd make 2-3 bad ones.

Just because Steve Blake was crap, doesn't make Mo a good player.
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Mo was a big time scorer off the bench and had nice percentages all year long. And you could say he was one of the best backup PGs that year, he led bench players in assists that year
 
Tunchi said:
Mo was a big time scorer off the bench and had nice percentages all year long. And you could say he was one of the best backup PGs that year, he led bench players in assists that year
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Not sure how shooting 42% from the floor (below his career average) and averaged under 10 ppg, and the 3rd lowest of his career per 36.

But I'm not surprised you're saying this. It kind of is your m.o.
 
julius said:
Not sure how shooting 42% from the floor (below his career average) and averaged under 10 ppg, and the 3rd lowest of his career per 36.

But I'm not surprised you're saying this. It kind of is your m.o.
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That scoring is BIG TIME!......... BIG TIME!
 
julius said:
Not sure how shooting 42% from the floor (below his career average) and averaged under 10 ppg, and the 3rd lowest of his career per 36.

But I'm not surprised you're saying this. It kind of is your m.o.
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Listen if he was shooting higher than that then he wouldn't have been available for the role we were giving him. Tell me another backup PG that was more obtainable than him that could have been better? Steve Blake? lol
 
With some 6 men it's not the shooting percentage as much as the tempo and game changers that matter..Mo hit a lot of big shots off the bench when we were struggling to score..he put us back in games when nobody was shooting well. I think Mo is a great backup pt guard...he's just past his prime now
 
riverman said:
With some 6 men it's not the shooting percentage as much as the tempo and game changers that matter..Mo hit a lot of big shots off the bench when we were struggling to score..he put us back in games when nobody was shooting well. I think Mo is a great backup pt guard...he's just past his prime now
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Even made an all star team.
 
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