OT The NBA Players Union Just Announced It's Ready To Make War On Owners

[Denny Crane]

http://deadspin.com/the-nba-players-union-just-announced-its-ready-to-make-1690834612#

The National Basketball Players' Association announced today that it has rejected the league's "cap smoothing" proposal, an idea floated by commissioner Adam Silver that was supposed to be an artful way of dealing with the massive influx of cash that will be coming into the league once the new TV deals kick in. The NBPA's decision to reject the proposal brings far-reaching implications, and is just the latest signal that Michele Roberts's union actually means business.

What it means for the cap
The NBA's current $930 million per year TV rights deals expire after the 2015-16 season, at which point the league's new deal—worth $2.6 billion per year—will kick in, bringing with it a spectacularly large flood of cash. That big of an increase in revenue would have a profound effect on the league's salary cap, because the cap figure is an agreed-upon percentage of league revenue. This season's salary cap sits at $63.065 million, but that would jump to an estimated $88 million in 2016, once all those TV billions start flowing into the league's coffers. That $25 million or so jump is huge—you can fit an entire LeBron James salary in there with about $5 million left over.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

In other words, the players proved that they aren't morons.

 

[Denny Crane]

It's mixed. The owners offered the same money to be distributed to all the players - older guys on long term lower paying deals, and rookie and vet minimum guys.

I personally think the players gave up way too much in this CBA. They're going to fight to straighten that out.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

They got took last time and they aren't going to take it again. The players should have started their own league.

 

[julius]

They got took last time and they aren't going to take it again. The players should have started their own league.

coming to a high school arena near you....

 

[Denny Crane]

I don't know about their own league, but it seems to me another ABA type league could happen, in theory.

The NBA is really huge at this point, though, and has massive amounts of money to promote itself.

 

[SheedSoNasty]

And once again we can say the fans are the ones to get screwed the hardest.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I don't know about their own league, but it seems to me another ABA type league could happen, in theory.

The NBA is really huge at this point, though, and has massive amounts of money to promote itself.

If the age limit gets raised I could see another league be viable, as long as top prospects like making money for themselves instead of the colleges

 

[rasheedfan2005]

i dont get the owners, maybe because im not a billionaire. but if i had billions of dollars i could really give a fuck wheter my income for the year was 500million or 40million.

of course i suppose thats not the kind of attitude that makes a billion dollars

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

i dont get the owners, maybe because im not a billionaire. but if i had billions of dollars i could really give a fuck wheter my income for the year was 500million or 40million.

of course i suppose thats not the kind of attitude that makes a billion dollars

I don't get the players either sometimes. They always want more and more money, yet they're the highest paid athletes on average in America and the vast amount of nba contracts are fully guaranteed. It's greed on both sides.

 

[BlayZa]

I'd still like non guaranteed contracts to be a thing.
with the cap jumping potentially that much, there is going to be a lot more people pitching for it and a lot more franchises stuck with players signed off one decent contract year performance turning into albatross contracts very quickly.

i know the players assoc. would never go for it, but could be a fair trade for higher cash pool.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I'd still like non guaranteed contracts to be a thing.
with the cap jumping potentially that much, there is going to be a lot more people pitching for it and a lot more franchises stuck with players signed off one decent contract year performance turning into albatross contracts very quickly.

i know the players assoc. would never go for it, but could be a fair trade for higher cash pool.

I think if non guaranteed contracts were agreed on the players would counter with no cap at all.

I'd love to see nba contracts work like NFL contracts. Partially guaranteed (say 4 years/60 million contract but only 22.5 guaranteed) and there should be restructuring deals available.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Fuck all that, its the owners fault for signing the deals. They can always put opt outs in, but they rarely do. This "save the owners from theselves" nonsense is...nonsense

 

[3RA1N1AC]

NFL teams can guarantee 100% of a contract if they want to, they just dont

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

NFL teams can guarantee 100% of a contract if they want to, they just dont

Which is smart, do you really wanna be tied to player who blows out his knee two seasons in a row with 3 more years on a contract?

 

[BigGameDamian]

Which is smart, do you really wanna be tied to player who blows out his knee two seasons in a row with 3 more years on a contract?

On another hand, Players need to make sure they can afford to feed there families and players like Lebon need to be able to afford that Kia.

 

[Rhal]

If the players go to war with the Owners they will lose. Billionaires vs millionaires isnt a great idea.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

If the players go to war with the Owners they will lose. Billionaires vs millionaires isnt a great idea.

Lol someone should make this idea into a video game app.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I think if non guaranteed contracts were agreed on the players would counter with no cap at all.

I'd love to see nba contracts work like NFL contracts. Partially guaranteed (say 4 years/60 million contract but only 22.5 guaranteed) and there should be restructuring deals available.

As a fan of a team with one of the richest owners in the world, I'm fine with both non-guaranteed contracts and no salary cap. The only thing that could make it better is if we started next summer with a full dispersal draft where all contracts were nulled out June 30th and Free Agency began with 15 open roster spots for every team starting July 1st.

Fantasy basketball for reals.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

As a fan of a team with one of the richest owners in the world, I'm fine with both non-guaranteed contracts and no salary cap. The only thing that could make it better is if we started next summer with a full dispersal draft where all contracts were nulled out June 30th and Free Agency began with 15 open roster spots for every team starting July 1st.

Fantasy basketball for reals.

That would be real bad... No matter how much money Allen is gonna throw around.. LA, Miami, the New Yorks, the Texas' will match and we would be stuck with a scrub ass roster somehow lol

 

[BBert]

On another hand, Players need to make sure they can afford to feed there families and players like Lebon need to be able to afford that Kia.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Which is smart, do you really wanna be tied to player who blows out his knee two seasons in a row with 3 more years on a contract?

Well that's easy, put a team option into the deal after the first two years. NBA owners should just do that instead of whining about how stupid they are, and how they need help to not do stupid things

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Just reading the title, most are not seeing that the players would have to artificially lower the cap in subsequent years to get the cap bumped for 2015. It is good to see the players see how ignorant this proposal is and turned down.

 

[magnifier661]

If the players go to war with the Owners they will lose. Billionaires vs millionaires isnt a great idea.

Keep in mind that there are only 30 billionaires against 450 millionaires. I think with the current revenue, the players make 60% of the revenue. Or something like that. The owners have to still pay for the stadium, staff and others not tied into the player's Union.

 

[BengalDuck]

Considering what the owners did last time, they deserve to lose.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

1) For years NBA franchises lost $ each year. The only way to recoup was to sell the franchise, because the it's value did go up. So, owners haven't been "greedy".

2) Without the smoothing, there will be dissension in the ranks. Some stars will take it personally that they are getting paid less than several bench players.

3) Trying to form another league would be the dumbest things the players could do. The media is shelling out HUGE $ to the NBA, they won't have a lot left over for an upstart league. Several times this has been tried in football and not worked. How many of you have even heard of the XFL?

 

[julius]

Keep in mind that there are only 30 billionaires against 450 millionaires. I think with the current revenue, the players make 60% of the revenue. Or something like that. The owners have to still pay for the stadium, staff and others not tied into the player's Union.

And they have to pay for the losses.

Plus, their overall wealth shouldn't mean that they don't benefit from the NBA too.

 

[BengalDuck]

Why should the players have to wait to earn their share of the revenues that the owners are already entitled to?

Anyone who thinks a soothing policy is fair - you send me $1,000 now and I'll give you that $1,000 back this time next year.

 

[Strenuus]

On another hand, Players need to make sure they can afford to feed there families and players like Lebon need to be able to afford that Kia.

This might be your best post yet.

Although, switch out Lebron with Blake and the Kia. Other than that, spot on.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Or a crappy college gym like Thomas and Mack in Vegas. Good enough for tv.

There didn't have to be two leagues. The NBA would have been done if Lebron and Durant and company started a new league.