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the nets can get under the cap is swift opts out. thats the reason why he will not play with this team for the rest of the season besides the fact that he's retarded. IMO, swift not playing is a message to him that he will not play here this year or next. it's still unlikely he opts out but damn, plz do it stro. part of me thinks that had something to do for trading him for collins, in hopes he opts out
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MyNetsForLife @ Apr 3 2008, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No way Stro ops out. He might be retarded, but his agent isn't.</div>
Exactly... him not playing is going to prohibit what he can get as a free agent. If was playing and racking up 14 and 10 then he would opt out thinking he could get more.
 
Nope, he'll do the classic asshole NBA player move - not opt out, stand pat for a couple months, then demand a trade.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 3 2008, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nope, he'll do the classic asshole NBA player move - not opt out, stand pat for a couple months, then demand a trade.</div>

if anyone's making an asshole move, it's the nets. they traded for him with the intention of trying to piss him off so much that he opts out. as a human being with responsibilities why would he leave 6 million dollars behind? not opting out doesn't make him an asshole, it makes him smart. he won't have to demand a trade anyways, he's an expiring contract, the nets will easily be able to move him and i'm sure they wouldn't mind.
 
It's called business. No one is an asshole.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (StroShow4 @ Apr 3 2008, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 3 2008, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nope, he'll do the classic asshole NBA player move - not opt out, stand pat for a couple months, then demand a trade.</div>

if anyone's making an asshole move, it's the nets. they traded for him with the intention of trying to piss him off so much that he opts out. as a human being with responsibilities why would he leave 6 million dollars behind? not opting out doesn't make him an asshole, it makes him smart. he won't have to demand a trade anyways, he's an expiring contract, the nets will easily be able to move him and i'm sure they wouldn't mind.
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Im wondering.... why are you such a big fan of stromile swift? What has he done to be your idol?
Just asking...
 
In other news, Hilary wants Obama to opt out.

Rock on, Captain Obvious.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Apr 3 2008, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's called business. No one is an asshole.</div>

that's how i look at it, but if anyone is wrong it's the nets, not swift.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Im wondering.... why are you such a big fan of stromile swift? What has he done to be your idol?
Just asking...</div>

the world already had too many kobe fans when i started following the NBA.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>the world already had too many kobe fans when i started following the NBA.</div>

So you went with a Swift?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Apr 3 2008, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>the world already had too many kobe fans when i started following the NBA.</div>

So you went with a Swift?
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yep.
 
im a huge RJ fan... but i still hate how he disappears in the 4th and he thinks hes MJ of the nets... but i love him so much i even wear 24 on my bball team just for him


well anyway, if stro opts out, how much are we under the cap?

anyway... our biggest problem is frank... im sorry... he needs to go!
 
Not playing someone will NOT cause them to opt out. See: McInnis, Jeff.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rory @ Apr 4 2008, 08:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not playing someone will NOT cause them to opt out. See: McInnis, Jeff.</div>

Especially not when there is no one in their right mind that would pay them anything near what they'd get from not opting out.
 
Whats the Point in GETTING SWIFT IF YOURE NOT GONNA PLAY HIM. im tellin you. i mean. wow. thats just retarded. im speechless. they brought him to nj (which is bad enough) in order for him to sit in the bench while watching kristic play no defence and run 1.583 mph. they better fire frank + staff to get a fast-paced team i cant stand switching for matchups, getting a lead at halftime and blowing it in the 3rd and finding our selves trying to come back in the 4th but fail miserably
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Angelo1405 @ Apr 4 2008, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Whats the Point in GETTING SWIFT IF YOURE NOT GONNA PLAY HIM.</div>

It was a financial move, not a basketball move. Stro makes a little less than Twin per season.

Additionally, with Stro having a player option, there is the slimmest of chances that the Nets could convince him to opt out.

Trading for Stro was never about giving him playing time with the Nets
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 4 2008, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Angelo1405 @ Apr 4 2008, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Whats the Point in GETTING SWIFT IF YOURE NOT GONNA PLAY HIM.</div>

It was a financial move, not a basketball move. Stro makes a little less than Twin per season.

Additionally, with Stro having a player option, there is the slimmest of chances that the Nets could convince him to opt out.

Trading for Stro was never about giving him playing time with the Nets
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He's also a slightly more tradeable commodity than Twin in a package.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Apr 4 2008, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 4 2008, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Angelo1405 @ Apr 4 2008, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Whats the Point in GETTING SWIFT IF YOURE NOT GONNA PLAY HIM.</div>

It was a financial move, not a basketball move. Stro makes a little less than Twin per season.

Additionally, with Stro having a player option, there is the slimmest of chances that the Nets could convince him to opt out.

Trading for Stro was never about giving him playing time with the Nets
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He's also a slightly more tradeable commodity than Twin in a package.
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Why do you guys assume it was a financial move? The savings is minimal, while Thorn has been rumored to have looked at him in the draft, than rumored he would be offered a MLE type deal the season following KMart's departure.

-Petey
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Apr 4 2008, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Apr 4 2008, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 4 2008, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Angelo1405 @ Apr 4 2008, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Whats the Point in GETTING SWIFT IF YOURE NOT GONNA PLAY HIM.</div>

It was a financial move, not a basketball move. Stro makes a little less than Twin per season.

Additionally, with Stro having a player option, there is the slimmest of chances that the Nets could convince him to opt out.

Trading for Stro was never about giving him playing time with the Nets
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He's also a slightly more tradeable commodity than Twin in a package.
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Why do you guys assume it was a financial move? The savings is minimal, while Thorn has been rumored to have looked at him in the draft, than rumored he would be offered a MLE type deal the season following KMart's departure.

-Petey
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Because we know Ratner is cheap and we know that Stro sucks
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Apr 4 2008, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why do you guys assume it was a financial move? The savings is minimal, while Thorn has been rumored to have looked at him in the draft, than rumored he would be offered a MLE type deal the season following KMart's departure.

-Petey</div>

Yeah, that's what led me to think that Swift might get some decent playing time in NJ but that's not how it turned out obviously.

The chances he opts out are minimal but not playing him is a good way to try to make him do it. We'll see...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Apr 4 2008, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why do you guys assume it was a financial move? The savings is minimal, while Thorn has been rumored to have looked at him in the draft, than rumored he would be offered a MLE type deal the season following KMart's departure.

-Petey</div>

Pre-Kidd Trade, it brought us a little more room to keep us under the luxury tax.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 4 2008, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Apr 4 2008, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why do you guys assume it was a financial move? The savings is minimal, while Thorn has been rumored to have looked at him in the draft, than rumored he would be offered a MLE type deal the season following KMart's departure.

-Petey</div>

Pre-Kidd Trade, it brought us a little more room to keep us under the luxury tax.
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Yes, but everyone seems to be missing out on how Thorn was interested in the draft, and as a FA.

Swift is the only dead weight in the league someone would have swapped for Colllins? I find that hard to beleive.

-Petey
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Apr 4 2008, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 4 2008, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Apr 4 2008, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why do you guys assume it was a financial move? The savings is minimal, while Thorn has been rumored to have looked at him in the draft, than rumored he would be offered a MLE type deal the season following KMart's departure.

-Petey</div>

Pre-Kidd Trade, it brought us a little more room to keep us under the luxury tax.
</div>

Yes, but everyone seems to be missing out on how Thorn was interested in the draft, and as a FA.

Swift is the only dead weight in the league someone would have swapped for Colllins? I find that hard to beleive.

-Petey
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Possibly. They had similar contracts, and Memphis's coach was having problems with Swift. No one else really sees Collins' value but Frank.

Thorn/Kiki should've known Swift wouldn't get that many minutes with Frank, anyways. If not, then that's just poor front office-coach communication.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Apr 4 2008, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 4 2008, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Apr 4 2008, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why do you guys assume it was a financial move? The savings is minimal, while Thorn has been rumored to have looked at him in the draft, than rumored he would be offered a MLE type deal the season following KMart's departure.

-Petey</div>

Pre-Kidd Trade, it brought us a little more room to keep us under the luxury tax.
</div>

Yes, but everyone seems to be missing out on how Thorn was interested in the draft, and as a FA.

Swift is the only dead weight in the league someone would have swapped for Colllins? I find that hard to beleive.

-Petey
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Actually Thorn's past interest in Stro was talked about when the trade rumors first started. But that still doesn't overcome the fact that Stro sucks and is useless for a winning team.

Now if your position is that Thorn traded for Stro to help the team's lottery position and Frank isn't playing him, then you might be onto something
 
Swift is more tradeable than Collins. The Swift trade was good for the Nets imo even if Swift doesn't opt out.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Apr 4 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Swift is more tradeable than Collins. The Swift trade was good for the Nets imo even if Swift doesn't opt out.</div>
How? They both make 6.2 mil next year.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MyNetsForLife @ Apr 4 2008, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Apr 4 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Swift is more tradeable than Collins. The Swift trade was good for the Nets imo even if Swift doesn't opt out.</div>
How? They both make 6.2 mil next year.
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Swift can contribute to a team more than Jason Collins can, Jason Collins is best suited as a 3rd or 4th string center. Swift can play PF or C, and is just a better overall basketball player at this point.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Apr 4 2008, 11:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MyNetsForLife @ Apr 4 2008, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Apr 4 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Swift is more tradeable than Collins. The Swift trade was good for the Nets imo even if Swift doesn't opt out.</div>
How? They both make 6.2 mil next year.
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Swift can contribute to a team more than Jason Collins can, Jason Collins is best suited as a 3rd or 4th string center. Swift can play PF or C, and is just a better overall basketball player at this point.
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Answer me this: which player of those 2 started on a team that went to the Finals?
 
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