The Official 2013-14 Around The NBA Thread......

[magnifier661]

That team won't go anywhere until they have an actual point guard, but I'm not sold on Love either.

Love is like Wilkens. Can give you a ton of empty stats that has everyone gushing over him, but the team just fails in their lead. But at least Wilkens made the playoffs a few times!

 

[Boob-No-More]

A near 50/20 game is insane.

Love is the motherfufusjsmruej truth.

Yeah, too bad his career post season averages are 0/0 and likely to remain so until he jumps ship to another team.

BNM

 

[Natebishop3]

Rubio really is like a Sergio on steroids.

 

[THE HCP]

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@ESPNStatsInfo: Kevin Love: 1st with at least 45 points, 19 rebounds, 6 assists in game since Hakeem Olajuwon (46/19/8) for 1996 Rockets vs Timberwolves

 

[THE HCP]

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@nbastats: Love joins Hakeem, Karl Malone & Alvan Adams as only players since NBA-ABA merger in '76 to record 45+p, 65%+FG%, 15+rbs, 5+ast (via ELIAS)

 

[THE HCP]

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@AlexKennedyNBA: Kevin Love and Nik Pekovic combined for 79 points and 33 rebounds, but the Timberwolves lost to the Clippers.

 

[Natebishop3]

The sweet satisfaction of watching Love skip town in a year will be marred by him signing with the Lakers.

 

[THE HCP]

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Wow, just finished the clipper/wolves game! Wow! Great game!

Minny now 0-7 in games decided by 4 points or less!

 

[Boob-No-More]

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Wow, just finished the clipper/wolves game! Wow! Great game!

Minny now 0-7 in games decided by 4 points or less!

Dude, I just said that like 8 posts ago. Try to keep up. You've definitely lost a step. Your whiteness is starting to show. BTW, what's with all the love for Love? I thought you hated American born white big men almost as much as Mediocre Man. Or do you just have a broner for him because you think he's going to force his way to your beloved Lakers?

BNM

 

[Strenuus]

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Dude, I just said that like 8 posts ago. Try to keep up. You've definitely lost a step. Your whiteness is starting to show. BTW, what's with all the love for Love? I thought you hated American born white big men almost as much as Mediocre Man. Or do you just have a broner for him because you think he's going to force his way to your beloved Lakers?

BNM

broner! LOL that's a new one!

 

[julius]

Did anyone see the poster complain about the schedule, asking why they play the Clippers '3 times' already?
And they were upset because they felt it was stupid because they're not in their division.

I'm guessing they were either kidding about it, or clueless as to how the schedule works in the NBA (vs the NFL or MLB).

 

[dviss1]

The sweet satisfaction of watching Love skip town in a year will be marred by him signing with the Lakers.

Meh.. Then we can just beat them with him on the team.

 

[magnifier661]

The sweet satisfaction of watching Love skip town in a year will be marred by him signing with the Lakers.

Curious how you think the Lakers will be able to have enough cap space to get Love?

 

[Natebishop3]

Curious how you think the Lakers will be able to have enough cap space to get Love?

Love can become a free agent after next season. He has a player option.

The Lakers will only have Kobe on the books after next season. That's $25 million in salary.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/los-angeles-lakers-team-salary

Bill Simmons was saying that the Lakers will go after Love and Westbrook, but Russell is under contract until after the 2016-2017 season.

 

[julius]

Why are we concerned about Love going to the lakers?

by the time he does, Kobe will be even closer to retirement than he is now (if he's not already falling towards it. not saying he is, just saying he might be), and if they get Love AND Kobe, that's like almost 40 million for just those two.

 

[magnifier661]

Love can become a free agent after next season. He has a player option.

The Lakers will only have Kobe on the books after next season. That's $25 million in salary.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/los-angeles-lakers-team-salary

Bill Simmons was saying that the Lakers will go after Love and Westbrook, but Russell is under contract until after the 2016-2017 season.

Oh I didn't know he could opt out this summer. I thought it was next summer

 

[Draco]

Love is a beast. I don’t know how anyone who watched that game can’t be impressed with him. I agree with TWolves fans he looked like a hall of famer last night. His team around him is a disaster. Is Love supposed to stop Kevin Martin from turning it over with 12 seconds left and the lead? Or Pek’s point blank game winning bricks? Or wisper sweet nothings into Rubio ear when he shoots? Detractors said the same things about Kevin Garnett not being a winner until he left that mess of an organization. Even some TWolves fans don’t blame Love if he wants to save himself.

I can’t dog on Pek too much; him and Love are an unguardable duo. Love can play outside or inside and make entry passes. Reminds me of having Camby dump it into LA. Pek is one of the most physically dominant players in the league. I haven’t seen a guy like that since Shaq… maybe Bynum used to be there. If they had good role playing teammates that team could have potential. Rubio was great as a reserve but is really struggling as a full time PG. Martin is a one dimensional shooter. Is Corey Brewer their third best player?

If we traded Love for Aldridge I’m not sure our team would be worse… it just might be better. I’m happy with LA but Love is right there with any big man in the game.

They're all defensive boards. He did the same thing against us. 16 defensive rebounds, only 3 offensive boards. He doesn't create second chance points for his team.

How is a defensive rebound less valuable than an offensive rebound? Either one prevents the other team from getting the ball and gives your team a scoring opportunity. At the end of the game first chance points count the same as second chance points. This is one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever seen.

 

[Boob-No-More]

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broner! LOL that's a new one!

Wish I could take credit, but it's a Hank Moody term for the result of a bromance gone too far.

BNM

 

[magnifier661]

Love is a beast. I don’t know how anyone who watched that game can’t be impressed with him. I agree with TWolves fans he looked like a hall of famer last night. His team around him is a disaster. Is Love supposed to stop Kevin Martin from turning it over with 12 seconds left and the lead? Or Pek’s point blank game winning bricks? Or wisper sweet nothings into Rubio ear when he shoots? Detractors said the same things about Kevin Garnett not being a winner until he left that mess of an organization. Even some TWolves fans don’t blame Love if he wants to save himself.

I can’t dog on Pek too much; him and Love are an unguardable duo. Love can play outside or inside and make entry passes. Reminds me of having Camby dump it into LA. Pek is one of the most physically dominant players in the league. I haven’t seen a guy like that since Shaq… maybe Bynum used to be there. If they had good role playing teammates that team could have potential. Rubio was great as a reserve but is really struggling as a full time PG. Martin is a one dimensional shooter. Is Corey Brewer their third best player?

If we traded Love for Aldridge I’m not sure our team would be worse… it just might be better. I’m happy with LA but Love is right there with any big man in the game.



How is a defensive rebound less valuable than an offensive rebound? Either one prevents the other team from getting the ball and gives your team a scoring opportunity. At the end of the game first chance points count the same as second chance points. This is one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever seen.

Big difference between Garnett and Love. Garnett was actually a really good defender. Love is a terrible defender. I was never one that said that Garnett could never win a ring. In fact, I always said he just needed a team around him.

There is only one PF that I remembered that didn't play good defense and won a ring. His name is Dirk, but Dirk has that money post move. He can score posting up from the block or elbows.

Love doesn't have a post game. I don't know where you are getting this information from?

 

[THE HCP]

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[magnifier661]

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So we are third in win%. That's pretty awesome!

 

[crowTrobot]

trailed by 10 in all 5 losses. at least we haven't thrown any games away.

 

[magnifier661]

trailed by 10 in all 5 losses. at least we haven't thrown any games away.

Didn't even see that!!!! That's why you get paid the big bucks!

 

[Natebishop3]

How is a defensive rebound less valuable than an offensive rebound? Either one prevents the other team from getting the ball and gives your team a scoring opportunity. At the end of the game first chance points count the same as second chance points. This is one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever seen.

Why do we track second chance points? Offensive rebounds are significantly harder to get because you're righting with sometimes two or three other people to grab them. Many of Love's rebounds are uncontested defensive boards. It's nice that he grabs them, but as has been pointed out, he sacrifices defense so that he can get rebounding position to pad his stats.

Of the 19 boards he had, only three were offensive rebounds... you don't think that's strange?

 

[BrianFromWA]

69 of LMA's 309 rebounds are offensive ones (22.3%). His ORB% is 7.5%.
103 of Love's 374 rebounds are offensive ones (27.5%). His ORB% is 10.3% (the lowest of his career--he averages 13.2% for his career).


I don't buy into your argument (yet) that defensive rebounding should be discounted, and that having a low % of your rebounds be offensive ones is bad, but bringing it up as a reason you'd rather have LMA than Love seems counter-intuitive.

 

[Natebishop3]

69 of LMA's 309 rebounds are offensive ones (22.3%)
103 of Love's 374 rebounds are offensive ones (27.5%).

I don't buy into your argument (yet) that defensive rebounding should be discounted, and that having a low % of your rebounds be offensive ones is bad, but bringing it up as a reason you'd rather have LMA than Love seems counter-intuitive.

I didn't say that was the reason why I would take Aldridge over Love. Fez said that his numbers were insane and I said that I don't think defensive rebounding is as difficult as offensive rebounding.

Of course Love and Aldridge grab offensive boards at a poor rate. They're camped out on the perimeter on offense. They have that in common. I never said to discount defensive rebounds, I Just feel like the gaudy numbers aren't quite so impressive when it can be argued that Love sacrifices defense so he can focus on getting the rebound.

For the record, I've rather have Aldridge because he plays some defense and because I think his offense is better suited for the playoffs.

 

[Draco]

I’d argue the opposite; that offensive rebounding is less important because it means you are not getting back on defense to prevent easy transition opportunities. There is a reason the Spurs are always one of the worst offensive rebounding teams but win a ton of games.

But a good defensive possession always ends in a defensive rebound. Love fills that role exceptionally, though he has other deficiencies on that end of the court. Love has an amazing ability to quickly get his hands right where the ball is going to go. Watch his hands when he goes up for rebounds. He is leading the league in rebounds while spending tons of time at the three point line on offense, an impressive feat.

What do the five best offensive rebounding teams in the league have in common? They are all below average defensively. Both us and the TWolves are in that group. The TWolves have a long list of problems right now, and as they are the 4th best offensive rebounding team in the league I’d say Love’s lack of offensive rebounding is at the very bottom of that list.

 

[KingSpeed]

Love failed to get the most important rebound of the game. I'm not impressed with him. He's all about stats, not wins.

 

[Natebishop3]

I’d argue the opposite; that offensive rebounding is less important because it means you are not getting back on defense to prevent easy transition opportunities. There is a reason the Spurs are always one of the worst offensive rebounding teams but win a ton of games.

But a good defensive possession always ends in a defensive rebound. Love fills that role exceptionally, though he has other deficiencies on that end of the court. Love has an amazing ability to quickly get his hands right where the ball is going to go. Watch his hands when he goes up for rebounds. He is leading the league in rebounds while spending tons of time at the three point line on offense, an impressive feat.

What do the five best offensive rebounding teams in the league have in common? They are all below average defensively. Both us and the TWolves are in that group. The TWolves have a long list of problems right now, and as they are the 4th best offensive rebounding team in the league I’d say Love’s lack of offensive rebounding is at the very bottom of that list.

Well, in that case, Love's numbers don't mean as much because they're uncontested. Most of his boards against the Blazers were free and clear because we had already gotten back on defense to prevent the fast break. I saw this multiple times. We weren't even trying to get offensive boards in that game.

 

[THE HCP]

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@InsideHoops: No.1 #NBADraft pick Anthony Bennett is shooting 18-of-65 this season, averaging 2.2 ppg on 28% shooting