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yuyuza1 said:
Kemba's stats are closer to Dame's than CJ's are to Kemba.
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So.

Kemba's the lead guard on a shitty team. That's like saying Kevin Love's numbers are true and good when he played for Minny.

Good numbers on a bad team mean nothing. Let's see CJ playing point for a whole season.
 
dviss1 said:
Take Booker, Gobert, Derozen off the list IMO. I'd even take Simmons off. He's not better than CJ yet. Kemba? Not better than CJ IMO either. Aldridge? I'm biased but not him either.
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Lol why would I? They’re all objectively better. I agree though, you’re definitely biased.
 
Scalma said:
Lol why would I? They’re all objectively better. I agree though, you’re definitely biased.
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Devin Booker plays on a shitty team and puts up numbers. I would NOT want Derozan instead of CJ. You would? He is probably a worse defender. Simmons can't shoot for shit and never will be able to.

Kemba, again putting up numbers on a shitty team.

Guys can't have it both ways. People in here always talk about putting up numbers on a bad team as being a detriment but not now?
 
dviss1 said:
Devin Booker plays on a shitty team and puts up numbers. I would NOT want Derozan instead of CJ. You would? He is probably a worse defender. Simmons can't shoot for shit and never will be able to.

Kemba, again putting up numbers on a shitty team.

Guys can't have it both ways. People in here always talk about putting up numbers on a bad team as being a detriment but not now?
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What proof do you have that CJ is actually better? Minimizing them because they play on bad teams is a cop out because the last time I checked, we weren’t talking about tennis. Booker is 22 years old and put up superior numbers across the board to 27 year old McCollum. Where was CJ at 22?

And yes I would take DeRozan over CJ, as he grades out better in pretty much every category. Worse defender? Lol good one, too bad it isn’t backed up by any metric. DeRozan had a DBPM of 0.5 last year. McCollum? -1.9.

But I’m sure you’ll ignore the numbers and tell everyone how you know better. Whatever.
 
Scalma said:
What proof do you have that CJ is actually better? Minimizing them because they play on bad teams is a cop out because the last time I checked, we weren’t talking about tennis. Booker is 22 years old and put up superior numbers across the board to 27 year old McCollum. Where was CJ at 22?

And yes I would take DeRozan over CJ, as he grades out better in pretty much every category. Worse defender? Lol good one, too bad it isn’t backed up by any metric. DeRozan had a DBPM of 0.5 last year. McCollum? -1.9.

But I’m sure you’ll ignore the numbers and tell everyone how you know better. Whatever.
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I’d take Booker over CJ but DeRozan is probably on the same level. I rather have CJ for our team because of his shooting.
 
Scalma said:
What proof do you have that CJ is actually better? Minimizing them because they play on bad teams is a cop out because the last time I checked, we weren’t talking about tennis. Booker is 22 years old and put up superior numbers across the board to 27 year old McCollum. Where was CJ at 22?

And yes I would take DeRozan over CJ, as he grades out better in pretty much every category. Worse defender? Lol good one, too bad it isn’t backed up by any metric. DeRozan had a DBPM of 0.5 last year. McCollum? -1.9.

But I’m sure you’ll ignore the numbers and tell everyone how you know better. Whatever.
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Lebron's team sucks this year so his 28-8-8 is meaningless.
 
Scalma said:
What proof do you have that CJ is actually better? Minimizing them because they play on bad teams is a cop out because the last time I checked, we weren’t talking about tennis. Booker is 22 years old and put up superior numbers across the board to 27 year old McCollum. Where was CJ at 22?

And yes I would take DeRozan over CJ, as he grades out better in pretty much every category. Worse defender? Lol good one, too bad it isn’t backed up by any metric. DeRozan had a DBPM of 0.5 last year. McCollum? -1.9.

But I’m sure you’ll ignore the numbers and tell everyone how you know better. Whatever.
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Seriously tho, just because you disagree with me doesn't mean you need to talk shit.

I simply disagree, I'm not being disagreeable.

Grow the fuck up.
 
dviss1 said:
Seriously tho, just because you disagree with me doesn't mean you need to talk shit.

I simply disagree, I'm not being disagreeable.

Grow the fuck up.
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I know how you operate. Don’t play victim.
 
dviss1 said:
Devin Booker plays on a shitty team and puts up numbers. I would NOT want Derozan instead of CJ. You would? He is probably a worse defender. Simmons can't shoot for shit and never will be able to.

Kemba, again putting up numbers on a shitty team.

Guys can't have it both ways. People in here always talk about putting up numbers on a bad team as being a detriment but not now?
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I think from 15ish to like 35ish the talent gap isnt that big, could kind of put them in a hat pull a name out and make a case for them if that makes sense. Just my opinion.
 
Wow! Look how many wins the Lakers are supposed to get next season!

 
Scalma said:
Doesn’t mean shit. Lillard was stat padding his rookie year as well.
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Look.. It matters that Booker plays on a bad team. Not sure why it doesn't to you but whatever:

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CJ's numbers are better. Booker is NOT a good defender either. CJ is better there too.

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dviss1 said:
Look.. It matters that Booker plays on a bad team. Not sure why it doesn't to you but whatever:

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CJ's numbers are better. Booker is NOT a good defender either. CJ is better there too.

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Now instead of cumulative give me the numbers from last season. And despite bookers defensive splits, he still graded out as a better player. Put him on a good team (or at least one that plays some defense) and I bet the gap would get wider.
 
Highest scoring duos in single playoff history...

1️⃣ LeBron & Wade (2012) - 1,222 PTS
2️⃣ Kawhi & Pascal (2019) - 1,187 PTS
3️⃣ Jordan & Pippen (1992) - 1,187 PTS
4️⃣ Olajuwon & Drexler (1995) - 1,175 PTS
5️⃣ Shaw & Kobe (2000) - 1,172 PTS
 
Chris Craig said:
Only 45 wins for the Blazers?
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:dunno: All depends on how long Nurk is out or less than 100%. The odds are very high that we will no longer have Kanter as a safety net. (and no, a handful of good games doesn't change my opinion on Leonard)
 
If Nurk is out half the season, that win total looks about right
 
ThePosterFormerlyKnownAsTheHCP said:
If Nurk is out half the season, that win total looks about right
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Last year with nurk you gave them 40 wins. ;), Pepperidge farms remembers.

It'll be really interesting to see what they do at Center next year and this summer. Do they just let ML and Zach have those minutes until Nurk comes back, do they try to get a big who can be serviceable as a starter (either keeping kanter or trying to find someone else).

Glad we don't have to make predictions for a few months. :)
 
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