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ABM said:
https://basketball.realgm.com/analy...nference-Offseason-Chatter-From-Summer-League

Portland Trail Blazers

  • Team executive on the absence of a traditional power forward: “It stands out, right? But we think Zach Collins can be that guy for us. He’s got the range. He can do a lot defensively. And we have Hassan Whiteside behind him if he gets beat on the perimeter. Will we keep looking? Sure, but we never stop looking.”
  • On Anfernee Simons’ potential: “There was a reason we told teams to stop asking about him in trades. You want to see second-year guys dominate here (Summer League) and he did that. He’s been one of the best players here. The kid just works. Last year he was so young and in over his head, but he was never scared. That matters. The best part is that he fits with Dame (Lillard) or C.J. (McCollum) or both at the same time. We’re fortunate to have him. And we think we hit again late on Nassir Little too. He’s going to be very good too.”
  • On working around Jusuf Nurkic being out: “We have a lot of depth now. We think Hassan Whiteside will be an excellent fit in our system and will give us a lot of what we lose while Nurk is out. In addition, we have Zach (Collins) and we added Anthony Tolliver. Those two guys can also play some center for us too and will give us different looks. We’ve got enough to get by.”
  • On taking the next step: “It’s something we start every offseason planning session: How do we get better? We went further with this group than ever last year, but still fell a little short. We don’t view that as failure or anything, but our guys are hungrier now. They were close. The conference is wide-open. What excites me is instead of asking ‘Why not us?’ our guys flat say ‘It’s our time.’ and that’s what you want to hear.”
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Item 1 doesn't sound like Olshey has a lot of confidence in Zach at the 4. Maybe it was out of context, but ...
 
FWIW.....

https://fadeawayworld.net/2019/08/0...trail-blazers-favorites-to-win-the-nba-title/

4 Trades That Would Make The Portland Trail Blazers Favorites To Win The NBA Title

For the Blazers, a team that has fallen short of their goals the past couple of years, their recent string of misfortune will only pull them further from contention. Another year of mileage, injuries to key players and a competitive Western Conference will prove to be sizeable obstacles this upcoming season.

With one good move, however, the franchise could become top contenders in the West. These trade deals would be the ones to get them there....

(DETAILS INSIDE)

4. Kevin Love
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: Kevin Love
The Cavs Receive: Hassan Whiteside, Zach Collins, Anfernee Simons, a future first-round pick and a future second-round pick

3. Aaron Gordon
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: Aaron Gordon
The Magic Receive: Kent Bazemore, Zach Collins, Nassir Little, Skal Labissiere, Anfernee Simons, a future 1st round pick and a future second-round pick

2. Blake Griffin
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: Blake Griffin
The Pistons Receive: Zach Collins, Kent Bazemore, Nassir Little, a first-round pick and a second-round pick

1. LaMarcus Aldridge & DeMar DeRozan
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: LaMarcus Aldridge and DeMar DeRozan
The Spurs Receive: Hassan Whiteside, Kent Bazemore, Skal Labissiere, a 2020 first-round pick, and a 2024 first-round pick






 
RR7 said:
Collins, Simons and a pick for love? Lol!
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And don't forget Whiteside!!

Disclaimer: Don't shoot the messenger. I just post most of this stuff for fun and laughs.
 
ABM said:
FWIW.....

https://fadeawayworld.net/2019/08/0...trail-blazers-favorites-to-win-the-nba-title/

4 Trades That Would Make The Portland Trail Blazers Favorites To Win The NBA Title

For the Blazers, a team that has fallen short of their goals the past couple of years, their recent string of misfortune will only pull them further from contention. Another year of mileage, injuries to key players and a competitive Western Conference will prove to be sizeable obstacles this upcoming season.

With one good move, however, the franchise could become top contenders in the West. These trade deals would be the ones to get them there....

(DETAILS INSIDE)

4. Kevin Love
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: Kevin Love
The Cavs Receive: Hassan Whiteside, Zach Collins, Anfernee Simons, a future first-round pick and a future second-round pick

3. Aaron Gordon
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: Aaron Gordon
The Magic Receive: Kent Bazemore, Zach Collins, Nassir Little, Skal Labissiere, Anfernee Simons, a future 1st round pick and a future second-round pick

2. Blake Griffin
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: Blake Griffin
The Pistons Receive: Zach Collins, Kent Bazemore, Nassir Little, a first-round pick and a second-round pick

1. LaMarcus Aldridge & DeMar DeRozan
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: LaMarcus Aldridge and DeMar DeRozan
The Spurs Receive: Hassan Whiteside, Kent Bazemore, Skal Labissiere, a 2020 first-round pick, and a 2024 first-round pick
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Collins, Labissiere, Simons, Little, and a 1st for Aaron Gordon?! LMAO. Thats hilariously bad. I wouldn't trade Collins for him straight up...
 
ABM said:
4. Kevin Love
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: Kevin Love
The Cavs Receive: Hassan Whiteside, Zach Collins, Anfernee Simons, a future first-round pick and a future second-round pick
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Terrible... I might consider Whiteside + 2nd. Even then, that's iffy to me. No way would I offer up Simons, Collins, AND a 1st as well.

ABM said:
3. Aaron Gordon
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: Aaron Gordon
The Magic Receive: Kent Bazemore, Zach Collins, Nassir Little, Skal Labissiere, Anfernee Simons, a future 1st round pick and a future second-round pick
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Better, but still really bad. Inclusion of Simons immediately kills it for me. I could consider Baze + Collins + 2nd but that's as much as I would offer. I'd prefer to not include Collins either & just have it be Baze + Little + Skal + 1st

ABM said:
2. Blake Griffin
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: Blake Griffin
The Pistons Receive: Zach Collins, Kent Bazemore, Nassir Little, a first-round pick and a second-round pick
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This is almost OK. Eliminate the 1st pick and I'd consider it.

ABM said:
1. LaMarcus Aldridge & DeMar DeRozan
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: LaMarcus Aldridge and DeMar DeRozan
The Spurs Receive: Hassan Whiteside, Kent Bazemore, Skal Labissiere, a 2020 first-round pick, and a 2024 first-round pick
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This one is the best of the bunch (and I'm saying this as someone who doesn't want anything to do with LMA again). However, I'd prefer to flip DeRozan for someone else. Not sure who that would be.
 
ABM said:
FWIW.....

https://fadeawayworld.net/2019/08/0...trail-blazers-favorites-to-win-the-nba-title/

4 Trades That Would Make The Portland Trail Blazers Favorites To Win The NBA Title

For the Blazers, a team that has fallen short of their goals the past couple of years, their recent string of misfortune will only pull them further from contention. Another year of mileage, injuries to key players and a competitive Western Conference will prove to be sizeable obstacles this upcoming season.

With one good move, however, the franchise could become top contenders in the West. These trade deals would be the ones to get them there....

(DETAILS INSIDE)

4. Kevin Love
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: Kevin Love
The Cavs Receive: Hassan Whiteside, Zach Collins, Anfernee Simons, a future first-round pick and a future second-round pick

3. Aaron Gordon
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: Aaron Gordon
The Magic Receive: Kent Bazemore, Zach Collins, Nassir Little, Skal Labissiere, Anfernee Simons, a future 1st round pick and a future second-round pick

2. Blake Griffin
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: Blake Griffin
The Pistons Receive: Zach Collins, Kent Bazemore, Nassir Little, a first-round pick and a second-round pick

1. LaMarcus Aldridge & DeMar DeRozan
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: LaMarcus Aldridge and DeMar DeRozan
The Spurs Receive: Hassan Whiteside, Kent Bazemore, Skal Labissiere, a 2020 first-round pick, and a 2024 first-round pick
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I haven't checked the other ones but the Blake Griffin one isn't close to working under the trade rules. As if these weren't dumb enough the author can't even check?
 
ABM said:
1. LaMarcus Aldridge & DeMar DeRozan
Trade Package:
The Blazers Receive: LaMarcus Aldridge and DeMar DeRozan
The Spurs Receive: Hassan Whiteside, Kent Bazemore, Skal Labissiere, a 2020 first-round pick, and a 2024 first-round pick
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This trade is intriguing but I doubt SAS does it.

Dame
CJ
DeRozan
LMA
Nurk

That's a legit contender right there. But I don't think there's enough young pieces to make San Antonio want to rebuild. And that's a full rebuild for them.
 
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Natebishop3 said:
This trade is intriguing but I doubt SAS does it.

Dame
CJ
DeRozan
LMA
Nurk

That's a legit contender right there. But I don't think there's enough young pieces to make San Antonio want to rebuild. And that's a full rebuild for them.
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Yeah, how could you not be intrigued by that one. You'd have to see the Spurs on screwing it to the California teams. Who the heck to you leave open on that team?
 
ABM said:
FWIW....

The Portland Trail Blazers have learned from disastrous 2016 offseason

https://ripcityproject.com/2019/08/01/portland-trail-blazers-learned-disastrous-2016-offseason/
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the article misses a couple of contracts:

"As you can assume, making a long-term commitment of $295 million to an exceptionally average bunch of players outside of CJ McCollum left the team struggling to reach its lofty goals in pursuit of a championship."

they forgot about Harkless and Ezeli. Add those two contracts and the Blazers gave out 340M in deals; not an all-star in sight and only one player that wasn't below average. I don't think there's any question that Portland was at the apex of that 2016 insanity. For nearly 3 years those decisions crippled Portland's flexibility and it wasn't until those bad contracts were expiring contracts were they able to 'escape' by trading with other teams for different regretted 2016 contracts.
 
wizenheimer said:
the article misses a couple of contracts:

"As you can assume, making a long-term commitment of $295 million to an exceptionally average bunch of players outside of CJ McCollum left the team struggling to reach its lofty goals in pursuit of a championship."

they forgot about Harkless and Ezeli. Add those two contracts and the Blazers gave out 340M in deals; not an all-star in sight and only one player that wasn't below average. I don't think there's any question that Portland was at the apex of that 2016 insanity. For nearly 3 years those decisions crippled Portland's flexibility and it wasn't until those bad contracts were expiring contracts were they able to 'escape' by trading with other teams for different regretted 2016 contracts.
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I agree that sucked, but at the same time, as bad as it was they were still competitive and found themselves in the top 8 in the west. At least they didn't blow all that money and become like a 25-35 win team. I hope the crazy spending spree's are over.
 
So, Draymond gets a $100M 4 year extension. Predictable, given KD’s departure, but you have to wonder if Green will be worth the money 4 years from now.
 
e_blazer said:
So, Draymond gets a $100M 4 year extension. Predictable, given KD’s departure, but you have to wonder if Green will be worth the money 4 years from now.
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well, the final year of his deal will be 5 years from now when he's 34 so I doubt it will be an issue. CJ will be 32 in the final year of his deal and he'll be making 7-8M more than Green then.

CJ at 33M/year on his extension while Green at 25M/year. The damn Warriors always seem to get their players on the best bargains

so far this summer, contracts & extensions signed with the average annual salary:

Kevin Durant $41,063,925
Klay Thompson $37,980,720
Tobias Harris $36,000,000
Khris Middleton $35,500,000
Jimmy Butler $35,197,650
Kemba Walker $35,197,650
Kawhi Leonard $34,379,100
Kyrie Irving $34,122,650
CJ McCollum $33,000,000
Kristaps Porzingis $31,650,600
D'Angelo Russell $29,331,375
Al Horford $27,250,000
Nikola Vucevic $25,000,000
Draymond Green $25,000,000
Harrison Barnes $21,250,000
Malcolm Brogdon $21,250,000
Julius Randle $20,700,000
Terry Rozier $18,900,000
Bojan Bogdanovic $18,275,000
Ricky Rubio $17,000,000
Rudy Gay $16,000,000
Jonas Valanciunas $15,000,000
Kelly Oubre Jr. $15,000,000
Danny Green $15,000,000
Marcus Morris $15,000,000
Bobby Portis $15,000,000
Thaddeus Young $14,545,000
Delon Wright $14,025,000
Terrence Ross $13,500,000
Dewayne Dedmon $13,333,333
Patrick Beverley $13,333,327
J.J. Redick $13,250,000
Brook Lopez $13,000,000

now, all things aren't quite equal on that list. Most of those players were UFA this summer, while guys like CJ and Draymond would have been UFA two summers from now and one summer from now respectively. That's a little mitigation to the numbers although that can take different tracks.

CJ has not been a bargain, and he won't be going forward; but he also won't be a very significant overpay either, and his contract should be fairly trade-able a year or two from now. Currently, I'd be surprised if any team other than Portland would want to make a 5 year commitment to CJ at 31.4M/year. But another summer or two of big contracts signed should make the trade market interesting
 
e_blazer said:
So, Draymond gets a $100M 4 year extension. Predictable, given KD’s departure, but you have to wonder if Green will be worth the money 4 years from now.
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Few players signing 4-year extensions at 30 are going to be worth their contracts in the final season. It’s a price you have to pay to get them to commit because if you don’t, someone else will.
 
e_blazer said:
So, Draymond gets a $100M 4 year extension. Predictable, given KD’s departure, but you have to wonder if Green will be worth the money 4 years from now.
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For much of last season he definetely wasn't, but he got himself in shape and came alive in the later part of the playoffs. He can be somewhat of an enigma
 
e_blazer said:
So, Draymond gets a $100M 4 year extension. Predictable, given KD’s departure, but you have to wonder if Green will be worth the money 4 years from now.
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He will be traded by then.
 
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