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How the hell is Houston going to get out of the luxury tax, hard cap and be allowed to do a sign and trade? Paul and Harden make $45 million each.
 
Reep said:
I'm sure Philly or some other team would be happy to help out Houston to make this happen. Right? Hahaha.
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WesleyMatthews said:
How the hell is Houston going to get out of the luxury tax, hard cap and be allowed to do a sign and trade? Paul and Harden make $45 million each.
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If you're Philly, and you have the choice between losing Butler for nothing, or trading him to Houston for Capela and Gordon, which do you choose?
 
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/rockets-jimmy-butler-sign-trade-sixers-231946468.html

With the Western Conference wide open thanks to major injuries to the Golden State Warriors, the Houston Rockets have plans for a big move this offseason. They just need to convince another team to let them do it first.

The Rockets are planning to recruit Philadelphia 76ers star Jimmy Butler in free agency, according to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski. In order to land Butler, the team will need to acquire Butler through a sign-and-trade with the Philadelphia 76ers due to its lack of cap space.

The Rockets had already been reported to be interested in Butler, and now we’re seeing how a deal could possibly take form.

How the Rockets could land Jimmy Butler
To pull the move off, the Rockets will need to do two things. First, they need to convince Butler that Houston would be his best destination in free agency after an eventful year for the All-Star forward.

Second and more importantly, the Rockets will need to convince the Sixers that they have no shot at re-signing Butler after giving up Robert Covington and Dario Saric for him just months ago.

The Sixers reportedly plan to be aggressive in their attempts to re-sign Butler in free agency, and could offer him a five-year, $190 million deal when free agency begins Sunday night. A four-year, $146.5 million deal would also be possible.

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James Harden and Jimmy Butler would be quite a pairing. (AP Photo/Jim Mone)

If the Sixers find that Butler doesn’t want to re-sign with them, then the team could possibly negotiate a sign-and-trade deal with the Rockets. Per Wojnarowski, the Rockets would need to include at least two of Clint Capela, Eric Gordon and P.J. Tucker to make the deal’s financials works.

Even if Butler walks away from the Sixers, the team would still have its hands full in free agency trying to re-sign Tobias Harris and JJ Redick. Wojnarowski also reports the Sixers could simply turn down a Butler sign-and-trade for payroll flexibility if the team is able to re-sign its other free agents.

Rockets have pursued Jimmy Butler before
This isn’t the first time the Rockets have geared up to pursue Butler. The team was in the thick of discussions last season to trade for the disgruntled Minnesota Timberwolves star and reportedly offered literally ever first-round draft pick they could for him.

It’s not hard to see why the Rockets would want Butler. Dropping him in the lineup would give the Rockets an elite perimeter defense duo with Chris Paul, and another top offensive option behind Jimmy Butler. Of course, adding a player who reportedly derailed his own team’s practices last season to a locker room already seeing a fair amount of conflict could be risky.

Still, with the Warriors in danger next season of being without Klay Thompson and Kevin Durant, this might be the best chance the Rockets get to break through to the NBA Finals, never mind the luxury tax bill.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
If you're Philly, and you have the choice between losing Butler for nothing, or trading him to Houston for Capela and Gordon, which do you choose?
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What am I going to do with Capella? Pay him $17-20M for the next four years to back up Embiid? Pass. I would let him walk, add the cap space and use it for someone more useful.

Think about it this way, would you rather have $20M to spend on any player you want, or Capella?
 
Reep said:
What am I going to do with Capella? Pay him $17-20M for the next four years to back up Embiid? Pass. I would let him walk, add the cap space and use it for someone more useful.

Think about it this way, would you rather have $20M to spend on any player you want, or Capella?
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First of all, it'd have to be both Capela and Gordon, and Gordon would be a perfect fit in the backcourt next to Simmons.

Second, Capela would just be a placeholder asset to be dealt for further value.

Third, given the choice between Capela and $14M of cap space, I'd take Capela 8 days a week.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
First of all, it'd have to be both Capela and Gordon, and Gordon would be a perfect fit in the backcourt next to Simmons.

Second, Capela would just be a placeholder asset to be dealt for further value.

Third, given the choice between Capela and $14M of cap space, I'd take Capela 8 days a week.
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Where does the $14M come from? The pair of them are $31M this year, so that is how much cap space they lose (currently way under). And if you had Embiid as your center, you would offer Capella a 4-year deal for an average of $18M/year? It's okay if you would, but I wouldn't. How would you keep Capella's value high, given his contract, as a backup?
 
Reep said:
I so much want them to lose Klay and Draymon.
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I too want to see the demise of the Warriors, but it's a guarantee that Klay will re-sign because there's no way in hell the Warriors DON'T offer him the max (they are already on the record saying that they'd offer him the max).
 
With Leonard signing a deal with Canadian Airlines Id say its a HUGE possibility he stays in Toronto.
The Canadian Gov owns both Air Canada or Canadian Airlines and many of the mills and have never been afraid to pay for play.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I thought that was a foregone conclusion?

Still, always appreciate the sharing of anything you hear. Any indication if that makes it more or less likely that KD goes to Brooklyn?
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Whispers. I'll check in later.

4 year 140ish for Kyrie...I believe
 
Why does Houston think Philly will want Capela in a S&T? This is more Morey bullshit to deflect the crap he was getting for ruining Giannis' moment.
 
illmatic99 said:
Why does Houston think Philly will want Capela in a S&T? This is more Morey bullshit to deflect the crap he was getting for ruining Giannis' moment.
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https://www.nj.com/sixers/2019/06/n...6-three-team-trade-ideas-to-make-it-work.html

Some interesting suggestions in here. The idea of adding Capela to a Nets team that could sign Kyrie and KD makes a lot of sense for Brooklyn.

Trade 5 sends Capela here in exchange for Harkless/Collins. While @SwissBlazer would probably be in favor, I would not.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
https://www.nj.com/sixers/2019/06/n...6-three-team-trade-ideas-to-make-it-work.html

Some interesting suggestions in here. The idea of adding Capela to a Nets team that could sign Kyrie and KD makes a lot of sense for Brooklyn.

Trade 5 sends Capela here in exchange for Harkless/Collins. While @SwissBlazer would probably be in favor, I would not.
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I suppose three team trades could work. What's stopping us from just getting Butler for ourselves in a S&T? We're not hard capped yet.

Morey has cried wolf on enough stars now for me to know when not to believe their bullshit.

Don't want/need Capela either.
 
illmatic99 said:
I suppose three team trades could work. What's stopping us from just getting Butler for ourselves in a S&T? We're not hard capped yet.
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The act of a s/t would hard cap us. With Butler's starting salary of ~$32.7M coming in, we'd have to have about $28M going out just to stay under the apron, and would have no more room to fill out our roster.

Not saying it's even likely Houston could get him, but it's unrealistic to see him here.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
The act of a s/t would hard cap us. With Butler's starting salary of ~$32.7M coming in, we'd have to have about $28M going out just to stay under the apron, and would have no more room to fill out our roster.

Not saying it's even likely Houston could get him, but it's unrealistic to see him here.
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So if we can come up with 28 mil to send out, we should be able to trade for him as well as keep our TP MLE? Think i'm misunderstanding this
 
On Bill Simmons podcast Marc Stein speculated New Orleans makes sense as the mystery team that will sign Horford for 4 years 100 million.

I really like that roster with Horford! They could be a playoff team and even finish above the Lakers which would be awesome.

Horford Okafor
Zion
Ingram Moore
Hart
Jrue Lonzo

Plus they control Lakers picks until 2025.
 
Hoopguru said:
With Leonard signing a deal with Canadian Airlines Id say its a HUGE possibility he stays in Toronto.
The Canadian Gov owns both Air Canada or Canadian Airlines and many of the mills and have never been afraid to pay for play.
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It seems like Kawhi wanted to get the credit for success of a NBA team, and the following of the city.

Now he is the star of an entire country!

I think he stays in Toronto on a 1+1
 
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