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Hell yeah! Having Randolph on the Grizz is like a dream come true for me as a Michigan State/Grizzlies diehard. He's really found a great niche and works great with Gasol. They compliment each other so well with Z-Bo's offensive rebounding ability and Gasol's ability to make PG-like passes under the basket. In my opinion, they're the best offensive frontcourt in the league.
I was actually at Z-Bo's big breakout game for the Blazers. If I remember correctly, I think he had a 20/20 night. I was the only jackass in the Grizzlies' arena that night that gave a standing ovation for one of the opposing team's players. I had season tickets that year and would usually wear all Grizz stuff, but that night I was decked out in Michigan St. gear, rooting for a Grizz win but a great night for Z-Bo. Now I can have my cake and eat it to.
That was great. Monty might not be in playing shape anymore, but he's still in fighting shape. I'd take him over KD in a fight tbh. He's got that dad strength now haha.
Monty has been great for the Hornets. I've never been a fan of the team, but I've been to a lot of their games, having lived in the city for the last 5 years. He preaches the right things, like defense and efficiency. If Eric Gordon can ever come back from his knee injury and accept his place as a Hornet (which are huge "ifs"), the Hornets could be a WCF contender within the next two years. I just hope that Benson has patience with Williams and realizes what a great coach he has with a roster mostly full of duds.
I also think that Rivers is in a great environment. I would have questioned Rivers being a lottery pick for any team other than the Hornets, but given Williams' relationship with Doc and Austin, I'd think he'll be the perfect coach for a player that has problems with shot selection, turnovers, and defense. Rivers is raw now, but I think Monty Williams can turn him into a great player down the road, more-so than most coaches.
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Yeah, that Zach Randolph for Channing Frye trade isn't looking so good right now. I'd rather have a low post scorer who is a great rebounder than Labambi. We all thought Zach sucked on defense, and that LA was going to be a big improvemente with his length and athletisism, but that hasn't really panned out. We probably could have kept Zach and traded LA for James Harden....
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This is all stupid hindsight. Zbo still plays bad D but gets away with it because of his ability to box out and just how amazing gasol is on D. This stupid argument that we shouldn't have traded him needs to die. He was a bad influence to young players and he made a ton of cash. He went through two teams in the biggest markets in the nba and was happily traded by those teams for pennies on the dollar. The guy was a cancer until he landed in memphis. At this point the "we were stupid to trade zbo" is right up there with "we should have taken Durant" and "we should have taken Jordan".
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Agreed. I never wanted to trade Zach. I loved his game on the court. But the fact remains he surrounded himself with idiots. The drugs, the guns, the hoes, the posse......were all a bad combination at a time where the Blazer image was taking a beating. and because of it his trade value sucked. The Blazer's hands were forced by Zach's bad decisions. I am no choir boy and have no problem with what players do on their off days, but they get paid big bucks to uphold a certain off court image.
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@ZachLowe_NBA: Rondo becomes 5th player since '85 to get 20 assists in less than 33 minutes (Stockton, Nash, Kidd, Magic): http://t.co/6jGMbaOz
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Anyone remember an article that came out two years ago talking about two players in general (Klove, Rondo), but was more about score keeping at home where the score keepers have to much control over whats going on and it showed in the numbers. It talked about how the score keepers were very loose with what was an assist for Rondo and what was a Rebound for Love and used that as a catalyst to talk about how underhanded it was in general. The difference between Love/Rondo road vs home was something like 3.2 assists for Rondo and 3.3 rebounds for love.
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I watched the video of Rondo's "20 assists". I love Rondo, but MANY of them were totally bogus. He would move the ball, the player who received it would dribble, create a shot and he'd get an assist! If the Euro standards were being used he'd be lucky to get double figures on those "20".
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RT @WindhorstESPN: Sixers fear Andrew Bynum has done additional damage to knees by bowling recently, multiple sources told ESPN. Link coming
At least it wasn't Dance Dance Revolution, or they'd be talking microfracture.
RT @WindhorstESPN: Sixers fear Andrew Bynum has done additional damage to knees by bowling recently, multiple sources told ESPN. Link coming
At least it wasn't Dance Dance Revolution, or they'd be talking microfracture.
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Sixers fan must be crying. Those sweet sweet tears! (I hate ALL Philly teams).
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You said it: "until he landed in Memphis." Exactly! It was all about the crappy organizations he was playing for. Portland was a team in transition and Knicks & Clippers were garbage franchises at the time. There was nothing one player could've done to save those organizations at the time. Memphis brought him in, surrounded him with talent, and trusted him. Zach was never the problem. His teammate were. Same with Sheed. Instead of trading Sheed, we should've been trading FOR Billups, Hamilton, etc. Ugh...Shareef Abdur Rahim?? smh
Wow. That's awful.
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After last night's monster EFF = 31 game, Anthony Davis has taken a commanding lead over Damian Lillard in the rookie EFF rankings:
Anthony Davis: EFF = 20.0
Damian Lillard: EFF = 17.9
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist: EFF = 15.1
Everybody Else: EFF = Doesn't Matter
That's the thing about a small sample size, a single game can make a very substantial difference. It will be interesting to see how this race plays out. Rookie big men, in general, tend to have more huge games (EFF =>30), but NBA ready rookie guards who have the ball in their hands more tend to put up very good games (EFF between 20 and 30) on a more consistent basis. This was definitely true during Roy/Aldridge's rookie year. Aldridge led all rookies in EFF => 30 games, but Roy had far, far more 20 <= EFF => 30 games than all other rookies that year.
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Anthony Davis: EFF = 20.0
Damian Lillard: EFF = 17.9
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist: EFF = 15.1
Everybody Else: EFF = Doesn't Matter
That's the thing about a small sample size, a single game can make a very substantial difference. It will be interesting to see how this race plays out. Rookie big men, in general, tend to have more huge games (EFF =>30), but NBA ready rookie guards who have the ball in their hands more tend to put up very good games (EFF between 20 and 30) on a more consistent basis. This was definitely true during Roy/Aldridge's rookie year. Aldridge led all rookies in EFF => 30 games, but Roy had far, far more 20 <= EFF => 30 games than all other rookies that year.
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Davis is going to have some monster games, but it doesn't have me worried. Like you just said its hard fora rookie big man to do that on a consistent basis. He was a legit beast last night and it helped that the refs treated him like a star.
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aha! i detect an error in a BNM post. do i win a prize?
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Edited and repped.
I'm just amazed that someone actually reads my shit, with a critical eye, no less.
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Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA Finally! Kevin Durant recorded the first triple-double of his career. He had 25 points, 13 rebounds and 10 assists in OKC's win over GSW.
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SOMEBODY has to be the point guard on that team...
Not to question Brooks's coaching, but I must say turning one of the purest scorers in NBA history into your do-it-all Lamar Odom type, while letting your "point guard" jack up twice as many shots would not have been my first choice. But I guess that's why he gets paid the big bucks.
[Another Westbrook story: an OKC fan I play basketball with (his excuse - he actually grew up in Oklahoma) was sitting courtside when OKC nearly lost to Detroit at the palace a week or so ago. I think Detroit was leading at the break, so he told Westbrook in no uncertain terms to stop shooting. Westbrook told him to "shut the fuck up."]
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Brett Pollakoff: Kobe on the new flopping rule: "Thank God. It doesn't belong here. We're grown-ass men, you don't need to be falling all over the place." Twitter @BrettEP
Someone needs to tell Kobe that grown-ass men don't whine like little bitches on every fucking play that doesn't go his way.
Someone needs to tell Kobe that grown-ass men don't whine like little bitches on every fucking play that doesn't go his way.
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I think what Kobe said was that they were "grown assmen". He was referring to his sexual preferences.
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Grizzlies no longer #1 in the league, and it feels like shit, haha...
Never having been a fan of the team with the #1 record, I was hoping it'd last, but we have a pretty easy home stretch coming up to make up ground. It just sucks that our reign as #1 lasted all of two days.
The Nuggets simply outplayed us tonight, and surprisingly, most lot of it was done in the post. Their bigs are very talented and had a chip on their shoulder. Things happen... I'll call it a hangover, optimistically, but in reality, the Nuggets won because they're a mismatch nightmare for us. I don't even expect the Lakers game we have coming up to be as challenging for our bigs.
Never having been a fan of the team with the #1 record, I was hoping it'd last, but we have a pretty easy home stretch coming up to make up ground. It just sucks that our reign as #1 lasted all of two days.
The Nuggets simply outplayed us tonight, and surprisingly, most lot of it was done in the post. Their bigs are very talented and had a chip on their shoulder. Things happen... I'll call it a hangover, optimistically, but in reality, the Nuggets won because they're a mismatch nightmare for us. I don't even expect the Lakers game we have coming up to be as challenging for our bigs.
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