THE "OFFICIAL" AROUND THE NBA 2012-13 THREAD........... (2 Viewers)

[THE HCP]

ZachLowe

Joakim Noah now averaging 40.1 minutes per game after 44 more last night.

 

[THE HCP]

espn

Paul Pierce became the 25th player in NBA history and the 30th ABA/NBA player to score 23,000 career points.

 

[THE HCP]

espn

James Harden with 31 points in Rockets win last night. Houston is 5-1 when he scores 30 or more.

 

[THE HCP]

espn

Bobcats (who started in 2004-05) are only team without an 8-game win streak in last 20 seasons (Clippers won 8th straight last night).

 

[THE HCP]

espn

Knicks-Lakers tonight at MSG. Lakers are 4 under .500 for 1st time since end of 2004-05 season.

 

[THE HCP]

nbastats

#RookieLeaders (Pts/gm, min. 10 GP) 1. Lillard (18.4) 2. Waiters (15.2) 3. Beal (12.3) 4. MKG (11.0) 5. Shved (10.5)

 

[THE HCP]

nba

@Twolves_PR: Brandon Roy will address the media today after practice. Availability scheduled for 12:45 p.m. on the main court.

 

[THE HCP]

Brousard

Jeremy Lin 3rd among WC guards in first returns of all-star voting.

 

[THE HCP]

yahoo

Jeremy Lin 3rd on West Guard AllStar voting: Kobe Bryant (LAL) 639,419; Chris Paul (LAC) 353,603; Jeremy Lin (Hou) 298,319.

 

[THE HCP]

nba

Aldridge currently 10th among "frontcourt" players in NBA All-Star balloting with 66,290, just ahead of Dirk who hasn't played a gm yet

 

[THE HCP]

nba

#RookieLeaders (Asts/gm) 1. Lillard (6.4) 2. Shved (3.6) 3. Waiters (3.4) 4. Rivers (2.9) 5. Prigioni (2.7)

 

[THE HCP]

nbastats

#RookieLeaders (Stls/gm, min. 10GP): 1.Waiters (1.24) 2.Crowder (1.15) 3. Lillard (1.14) 4.J.Taylor (0.95) 5. Beal (0.95)

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Come on Knicks!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

'Melo is killing 'em.

 

[magnifier661]

If this thread are as jinxedas hcp's game thread; maybe we should talk about how we want the lakers to win in this one. Kobe may get injured and Howard walks.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

22 pts for Melo in the first quarter.

41 pts allowed by the Lakers in the first quarter.

This warms my heart.

 

[KingSpeed]

This is wonderful. Sheed for 3!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Dwight with no explosion.

Wow

 

[Further]

I am joyous

 

[BBert]

Looks like the lakers got the Dwight they deserve.

 

[KingSpeed]

Dwight has 16 points on 8 shots. At least he can play. Bynum is out. But Dwight prob won't re-sign and that's great.

 

[KingSpeed]

Now Kobe is faking a back injury? Lord.

 

[NOVoodoo]

From what I remember, Pau had really worn out his welcome in Memphis. The fans were booing him mercilessly. It doesn't help the team make the best trade when other teams can make "take it or leave it" offers.

I remember being furious at the Bulls because they were in talk for Gasol and wouldn't include Deng (they offered Andres Nocioni, Tyrus Thomas, Thabo Sefalosha, Adrian Griffin, Joakim Noah and picks). In hindsight, Memphis would have been stuck with some pretty awful guys and late draft picks, plus Noah. At the time, there was no indication Noah would be as good as he's turned out.

He had worn out his welcome in Memphis to a degree. The team was going nowhere at the time, and Gasol was a good scapegoat as the team's "franchise" player and a soft Euro. The thing is, most fans were expecting to get something in return for him other than cap space. When you blow up a franchise through a trade with the purpose of rebuilding, usually you at least get some good draft picks in return. The cap room does a team with no potential of winning in the near future very little good. And out of all the teams to send Pau to for nothing, we sent him to the Lakers...? Really...? That trade just reeked of Jerry West and his LA affiliations.

 

[MickZagger]

He had worn out his welcome in Memphis to a degree. The team was going nowhere at the time, and Gasol was a good scapegoat as the team's "franchise" player and a soft Euro. The thing is, most fans were expecting to get something in return for him other than cap space. That trade just reeked of Jerry West and his LA affiliations.

I'd say Marc Gasoline was something in return.

 

[NOVoodoo]

I'd say Marc Gasoline was something in return.

In hindsight, Marc's become the best player in that deal, but he was nothing more than a throw-in at the time. Nobody saw that one coming, not even the Memphis front office.

I guess I quoted a discussion from a few pages back, but I mentioned that in my original post -

The Pau Gasol trade that more or less gave LA two titles, yet a lot of people nowadays point out that the Grizzlies got the rights to Marc Gasol in that deal, and how Marc's become a better player than Pau.

That was just blind luck as far as I'm concerned though. When Marc was playing high school ball in Memphis, he was 50 lbs. overweight, couldn't run down the floor, and seemed disinterested with the game. The only things he had going for him were his size and name. I don't think that bringing him in to the organization was as much of a basketball decision as it was a decision to appease that Gasol family. The fact that he developed into one of the league's best big men couldn't have been foreseen by the league's best scouts.

 

[handiman]

I gotta agree with NOVoodoo here. The deal was considered so bad for Memphis at the time, the fact that the "bad" Gasol brother was a throw-in with the deal just made the whole thing a joke.

 

[THE HCP]

The NBA is a crazy place....... the Warriors got spanked by the Magic tonight and the Nets were up 17 on Detroit and are about to possibly lose at home!

 

[BrianFromWA]

I gotta agree with NOVoodoo here. The deal was considered so bad for Memphis at the time, the fact that the "bad" Gasol brother was a throw-in with the deal just made the whole thing a joke.

At the time of the trade (Feb 1, 2008) Marc was the 48th pick of the most recent draft, played for Akasvayu Girona (a team that went bankrupt that year), hadn't played a game in the NBA and had the following scouting reports:
(two weeks after trade) "He wasn't really a go-to guy for Girona on the offensive end (mainly because of Real Madrid’s double-teaming defense), but especially he doesn't make a great impact on the defensive end. His limited mobility gets exploited in pick-and-roll situations that the opponents throw at him; he's not a great intimidator, he allows smaller opponents to shoot over him; and given his superb size, he's not the best rebounder around."
"How much will Gasol’s lack of athleticism get exposed in the NBA? I guess that’s the question every single decision maker will be asking himself when it comes to evaluating the big Spanish center. With much more individual oriented defenses, it’s a very legit concern. In the ACB League, he relies on his excellent positioning to emerge as a very solid defensive presence. It’s not going to be the same in the NBA."
On the negative side, this Final Four again exposed that he could certainly use a better left hand. He loses space and effectiveness going for an orthodox right-handed short shot instead of a left-handed jump-hook whenever he attacks a rival from the left."
Still, Pau's younger brother is one of the most promising centers in Europe, and probably an underrated piece -by the American media- in the recent blockbuster trade that involved both brothers. Anyway, he doesn't seem to fit too well with the current Memphis Grizzlies game style, but he might be a nice asset to work in a trade in the near future.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2F5QjgcIi

 

[THE HCP]

This Piston vs Nets games is AWESOME!

 

[THE HCP]

This thing is going to go into 3OT!