The Official S2 NBA Lockout Thread!

[PapaG]

they want triple damages from the start of this year until the resolution is reached? That's at least reasonable, although not practical.

It also freezes out free agents and rookies, and also players on an option year, doesn't it?

 

[julius]

It also freezes out free agents and rookies, and also players on an option year, doesn't it?

quit asking me questions. I don't know anything right now.

 

[jlprk]

Wow, what a shock. Probably time to just PM me, eh Gramps, and save everybody else your hi-jacking of this thread?

You see, to do that, you just click on my name, and then click on "Private Message". I assume you don't know how, since most of your posts are to me these days, yet are in the public forum.

What kind of a pussy do you think I am? I wouldn't be caught DEAD PMing another man!!

Where I come from, they just stand up, collect their chips from the table, and shoot you.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_action

The procedure for filing a class action is to file suit with one or several named plaintiffs on behalf of a proposed class. The proposed class must consist of a group of individuals or business entities that have suffered a common injury or injuries. Typically these cases result from an action on the part of a business or a particular product defect or policy that applied to all proposed class members in a typical manner. After the complaint is filed, the plaintiff must file a motion to have the class certified. In some cases class certification may require discovery in order to determine its size and if the proposed class meets the standard for class certification.

 

[PapaG]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_action

The procedure for filing a class action is to file suit with one or several named plaintiffs on behalf of a proposed class. The proposed class must consist of a group of individuals or business entities that have suffered a common injury or injuries. Typically these cases result from an action on the part of a business or a particular product defect or policy that applied to all proposed class members in a typical manner. After the complaint is filed, the plaintiff must file a motion to have the class certified. In some cases class certification may require discovery in order to determine its size and if the proposed class meets the standard for class certification.

So it's a prospective class action suit. Thank you for clarifying, Denny. That does open up a bigger can of worms, though. What about those potential players who weren't drafted, yet would have been signed as undrafted FAs. I'm still eligible as an undrafted FA. Should I be a part of this suit?

 

[jlprk]

After the complaint is filed, the plaintiff must file a motion to have the class certified. In some cases class certification may require discovery in order to determine its size and if the proposed class meets the standard for class certification.

No discovery is needed to certify the list of players involved, but owners will probably require discovery to prolong things, using issues such as unsigned players.

 

[Denny Crane]

So it's a prospective class action suit. Thank you for clarifying, Denny. That does open up a bigger can of worms, though. What about those potential players who weren't drafted, yet would have been signed as undrafted FAs. I'm still eligible as an undrafted FA. Should I be a part of this suit?

Seems to me if a person can make the case that the misdeeds by the owners apply to them, then they apply to them.

 

[ironcrotch]

From what I know about class action suits, the lawyers will end up with a ton of money and the players will be eligible for gift cards and a free steak dinner.

 

[THE HCP]

Stein


HCP vs DennyCrane/S2.... paperwork will be filed with Multnomah County District Court tomorrow say 2 sources!

 

[THE HCP]

chadfordinsider

UCLA versus Chaminade up next at the @EASportsMauiInv Josh Smith looks like he ate (Eddy) Curry for lunch.

 

[BrianFromWA]

is there a "touch it, Dave...touch it" joke in there somewhere?

 

[THE HCP]

Hip Hop is dead!

http://www.libertyballers.com/2011/11/22/2580137/hip-hops-swan-song-sixers-mascot-is-no-more

 

[porkchopexpress]

From what I know about class action suits, the lawyers will end up with a ton of money and the players will be eligible for gift cards and a free steak dinner.

I believe the lawyers fees would be capped at something like 25% of the settlement. If the class was 10,000 players, you'd be right, but at under 500 players they'll still get a pretty penny.

 

[BrianFromWA]

So what you're saying is that, assuming these "trebel damages" go through, the owners would be paying $1.5B to Boies and Kessler?

That's a helluvan incentive to not get a deal done.

 

[BBert]

So what you're saying is that, assuming these "trebel damages" go through, the owners would be paying $1.5B to Boies and Kessler?

That's a helluvan incentive to not get a deal done.

 

[porkchopexpress]

So what you're saying is that, assuming these "trebel damages" go through, the owners would be paying $1.5B to Boies and Kessler?

That's a helluvan incentive to not get a deal done.

If they show that they worked a reasonable amount of hours to it . But, I should say this is based on how my wife's firm works, which is paid solely from the settlements (mostly securities). I'm guessing they are paying these guys regardless, so that % may be lower.

 

[THE HCP]

But, I should say this is based on how my wife's firm works

FIRM???? Did they start practicing law out of the back of the Acropolis?

 

[porkchopexpress]

FIRM???? Did they start practicing law out of the back of the Acropolis?

Ha. As bad as the legal market is, I wouldn't be surprised to see recent law grads working there (I think there was an article on it). They could give legal advice while giving dances. I think you may be on to something!

 

[THE HCP]

Mannix


Got a call from an NBA assistant coach today, who says his work day today was spent watching two seasons of Lost on Netflix. #lockout

 

[THE HCP]

darrenrovell


Source w/insurance company told me NBA players have asked about delaying insurance payments on homes & cars #Lockout

 

[Draco]

Mannix


Got a call from an NBA assistant coach today, who says his work day today was spent watching two seasons of Lost on Netflix. #lockout

That would be pretty sweet if they are still getting 50% pay as I heard reported earlier!

 

[jlprk]

I believe the lawyers fees would be capped at something like 25% of the settlement. If the class was 10,000 players, you'd be right, but at under 500 players they'll still get a pretty penny.

It will be settled out of court, and neither side will compensate the other for legal fees.

Mannix
Got a call from an NBA assistant coach today, who says his work day today was spent watching two seasons of Lost on Netflix. #lockout

This is why there is no hurry to hire an expensive Blazer GM.

 

[porkchopexpress]

It will be settled out of court, and neither side will compensate the other for legal fees.

So this isn't going to work like a normal class action suit (defense attorneys bill hours to their clients (owners) and plaintiffs attorneys get a % of the settlement)?

 

[PapaG]

It will be settled out of court, and neither side will compensate the other for legal fees.

Why in the world would the NBA settle out of court? Also, that's not how the settlement would work, because the lawyer fees for the plaintiff would come out of any settlement.

That's the dumbest post in this entire thread.

 

[KingSpeed]

Why in the world would the NBA settle out of court? Also, that's not how the settlement would work, because the lawyer fees for the plaintiff would come out of any settlement.

That's the dumbest post in this entire thread.

you said it

 

[jlprk]

It's unanimous. Out of 2845 posts, I take pride in this achievement, and I would like a cookie from each of you.

 

[barfo]

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barfo

 

[THE HCP]

Billy Hunter expects court mediation

NEW YORK -- Union executive director Billy Hunter said Tuesday he expected that a Minnesota magistrate judge would mediate the players' lawsuit against the NBA, as the court did in the NFL's labor dispute.

Hunter specifically mentioned U.S. Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan, the court-appointed mediator in the NFL talks. Boylan is not the magistrate assigned to the NBA antitrust suit, although the district judge has the discretion to appoint a different magistrate to mediate.

"What may very well be is the judge there directs the magistrate, as they did in the NFLPA case, to host a settlement conference, and that could possibly occur as early as next week," Hunter said.

One reason the players' lawyers decided to consolidate two suits against the NBA in Minnesota, he said, was that the district court there routinely uses magistrates to mediate cases.

Different groups of players filed separate lawsuits in California and Minnesota last week. On Monday, lawyers withdrew the California complaint and filed a consolidated, amended suit in Minnesota. Players attorney David Boies said at the time that the choice was made because cases move faster in Minnesota.

Hunter said Tuesday that the possibility of having a magistrate mediate also played into the decision, with the same goal in mind: resolving the labor strife quickly.

"It makes it easier for the parties to get together when the court is involved," he said.

NBA owners locked out the players July 1, and the labor strife has forced games to be canceled through Dec. 15.

The owners had already filed a lawsuit of their own in the Southern District of New York and could file a motion to have the Minnesota case moved there.

After the two sides were unable to reach an accord, the players disbanded the union last week. That set the stage for the increasingly bitter labor dispute to move from the negotiating table to the courtroom, which could jeopardize the entire 2011-12 season.

Hunter spoke Tuesday after NBPA officials and players distributed Thanksgiving turkeys to local families outside their office in Harlem. The NBPA gave away 9,000 turkeys nationally in New York, Atlanta, Houston, Washington, Miami and New Orleans.

The Knicks' Roger Mason Jr., a member of the NBPA board, said he didn't find anything awkward about discussing the players' demands right after distributing the turkeys.

"Especially during the lockout where you have two (sides) unable to get something done and there's a lot of talk of greed -- Thanksgiving season, this is a time to give back," he said, "and I just feel like it's important for all of us to do that."


Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press

 

[jlprk]

visit my website and I'll give you a cookie.

You are a dirty old man.

 

[Mediocre Man]

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