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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Talks were expected to continue today, sources said, and one league source tells Y!: "We should know more by later this evening."

51 minutes ago
 
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Derek Fisher isn't a part of the talks now, sources say.

39 minutes ago
 
No idea if he was hacked or not because no one else has said anything about talks happening. Although, Woj is pretty connected
 
So there are now 2854 posts on this thread. Seems more active than the actual negotiations.
 
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

Derek Fisher isn't a part of the talks now, sources say.

39 minutes ago

I was curious who exactly is talking in these new negotiations. Once the union was turned into a trade association they said themselves they could no longer collectively bargain on behalf of the players. So is it the lawyers? Perhaps thats why Kessler was brought into the negotiations so early, they new if they couldn't reach an agreement and had to file lawsuits Kessler would takeover all negotiations.
 
I was curious who exactly is talking in these new negotiations. Once the union was turned into a trade association they said themselves they could no longer collectively bargain on behalf of the players. So is it the lawyers? Perhaps thats why Kessler was brought into the negotiations so early, they new if they couldn't reach an agreement and had to file lawsuits Kessler would takeover all negotiations.



I thought I read a while back that Kessler and Boies would be the ones talking, but the NBA wanted to deal with Hunter
 
Woj is always on top of what's going on. Very interesting if this is true, also that Fisher isn't involved.
 
Amico


Yahoo reporting NBA owners and players resumed talks Tuesday to try to end lockout. By Friday.

Source on NBA ownership side on Y! Sports report: "If they get a deal done in 2 days then this really was all about ego."
 
Amico


NBA's "secretive" talks to continue on Thanksgiving if necessary, source says. "Sides feeling pressure from sponsors for Christmas games."
 
NBA's Tim Frank on @wojyahoonba reporting talks resumed: "The NBA remains in favor of a negotiated resolution" but declined further comment.
 
johnschuhmann

By my calcs, a season that started on Dec. 25 & finished on April 25 could be 64 games, played at the same pace as '99.
 
64 games is about right.

All that needs to happen is the Owners have to give a little on player movement. As Henry Abbott pointed out, none of the measures that the owners are insisting on, supposedly for the sake of parity, have any effect on parity. Stern just needs to make an agreement and then prove he's still the boss by browbeating the whiny minority of owners into accepting it.

Either that, or the artist formerly known as Ron Artest needs to crack another one of Jordan's ribs.
 
I tell you that if the last proposal was allowed to be voted on by ALL 450+ players it would have been accepted!
 
daldridgetnt

2 sources confirm Yahoo story on players' lawsuit settlement talks starting. Not CBA talks; this has 2 happen first. Check Asch on NBA,con.



This is a good point by DA
 
Mannix


Derek Fisher's reported non-involvement in latest NBA talks is an important note. Fisher will ultimately have to give OK to any new deal.
 
johnhollinger

If Xmas day start happens, can play everybody twice and division opponents four times to squeeze in 66 games, or 3x in division for 62.
alternatively, opposite conference 1x own conference 3x and own division 4x makes 61-game slate.
 
Mannix


Derek Fisher's reported non-involvement in latest NBA talks is an important note. Fisher will ultimately have to give OK to any new deal.

I'd imagine if they got a deal approved and then have it ultimately nixed by Fish, he'd have to look into witness protection.
 
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^I have a wife and a social life and DO NOT live in my mom's basement and play D&D.......... so I have no idea what this means!
 
Stein

NBA labor latest: Sources say Stern privately surveying some owners to gauge willingness to making full midlevel exception open to all teams
 
KBergCBS Ken Berger

There will be no deal tonight or tomorrow, folks, so enjoy your Thanksgiving. And thanks for hanging in with me through this fiasco.
 
W/e.
WojYahooNBA
Two sides will meet again on Friday in New York, with Hunter and NBA wanting Fisher to join settlement talks, league sources tell Y!
 
In statement, NBPA atty Jonathan Schiller confirms "preliminary settlement discussions with the NBA immediately after Thanksgiving"
 
Two sides will meet again on Friday in New York, with Hunter and NBA wanting Fisher to join settlement talks, league sources tell Y!
 

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