The Official S2 NBA Lockout Thread!

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Stern: "Our economic situation gets worse and we have to begin to account for that."
 
No new talks scheduled between the sides. For second time in Stern's tenure as commissioner, a lockout will cost regular season games.
 
Sides talked syst only during last 2 days. Stern said gap is w/contract length, annual raises, tax on teams, etc.
 
No new meetings scheduled. League will have to account for expected revenue loss when making next proposal, Stern said.
 
Buildings now free to fill cancelled dates, Stern said.
 
Among most objectionable aspects of players' position, Stern said, was request for 10.5 and 9 pct for Bird players, 9 and 7 pct for others.
 
Each side still officially at 53 percent. They're so far apart on revenues they haven't even talked about it last 2 days.
 
WojYahooNBA.......

WojYahooNBA: GM just texted me: "Now it gets ugly. God help us."
 
Sorry to hear that HCP, hopefully you've got some stuff lined up to keep the lights on.
 
Greedy fuckers. WTF were they doing from July to September? If they started negotiating then instead of bitching about each side to the media, maybe this deadline wouldn't have suddenly crept up on them and forced them to cancel games.

It reflects so poorly on Stern too, to have two labor stoppages causing missed games in a 11 year period.
 
How can Stern keep a straight face? The Owners never made ANY concessions. Their STARTING position was a MAJOR reduction on the existing system. The Players actually DID make major concessions.

I'd like to see people like Buss lose his billion dollar TV deal. That would give him some motivation. Too many stupid owners would actually LIKE to cancel the season. Mull on that for a while: are these really people who deserve to own basketball teams?

Sorry HCP: my money's on an entire season lost. Minimum.
 
KBergCBS Ken Berger

Fisher: begins by reminding fans that "a lockout is not a strike."




In other words, "Hey it's not our fault!"
 
hollinger........

Glass half full: Toronto-Minnesota on Nov 5, with almost no camp and both on back-to-back, had worst-game-in-history potential. We're spared
 
Another GM: "I think the best case scenario now is 50 games, but I can see the whole season gone."
 
Fisher: "This is what we anticipated would happen, and here we are."
 
Fisher on lost salary: "Obviously not a good feeling for anyone."
 
Fisher: "This is not just about dollars and cents for players. It's about a system for our guys to operate under."
 
InsideHoops.com estimates that #NBA players lost around $165 MILLION in salaries just now.
 
Fisher says owners' proposal of punitive luxury tax is "still as close as you can get, if not a hard cap."
 
Fisher says decertifying still an option.
 
Hunter: "Unfortunately maybe we need to miss a few games for them to know there's resolve among the players."
 
B.Hunter says he feels cancelled games can be made up if deal done in next 2 weeks. D.Stern seemed dismissive of that notion.
 
Hunter: "I don't know that the season is in jeopardy. I think it would be foolish."
 
Hunter: They are going to have to soften their position and be willing to compromise
 
Hunter on missing games: "I'm convinced that this is all just part of the plan."
 
Man the NBA is making it so easy for me to stop caring about its product. Stupidity and greed all around.
 
What is the average NBA career? 5 years? If they just cancelled (on average) 7 games, that's 7/(82*5) = 2% of the average player's career. Thus they need to get an extra 2% from the owners (over what they could have gotten last week) just to break even on not caving in last week.

I'm not taking sides, but I don't see how this ends well for the players.

barfo
 
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