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There were no talks between the sides Tuesday as tension over the four-month-old labor dispute remained high. All games through Nov. 30 have been canceled. Jeffrey Kessler, a prominent attorney for the players, accused the owners of treating his clients like “plantation workers,” a comment that drew a furious response from Stern.

Kessler said the owners’ current offer to give the players half of basketball-related income was not a “fair deal” and that the soft salary cap functioned like a hard cap.

“To present that in the context of ‘take it or leave it,’ in our view, that is not good faith,” Kessler, who also represented the NFL players in their labor dispute with the NFL, said in a telephone interview Monday night. “Instead of treating the players like partners, they’re treating them like plantation workers.”

In a phone call Tuesday, Stern blamed Kessler for the stalled talks and said he deserved to be “called to task” for the remark.

“Kessler’s agenda is always to inflame and not to make a deal,” Stern said, “even if it means injecting race and thereby insulting his own clients. . . . He has been the single most divisive force in our negotiations and it doesn’t surprise me he would rant and not talk about specifics. Kessler’s conduct is routinely despicable.”

The vitriol surely won’t help close the gap.

“It certainly is dire,” Stern said about the stalemate.
 
CBS

To correct the record, there were only THREE sign-and-trades involving tax teams during previous six-year CBA, according to league source.

Eddy Curry to Knicks, Kwame Brown and Laron Profit to Lakers, and Shawn Marion to Dallas. That's it.
 
There've been a grand total of TWO extend-and-trade deals that anyone can remember: Garnett to Celtics and Melo to Knicks. That's it.
 
KyrieIrving

if a deal doesn't get done soon....overseas here i come
 
Broussard

No Wednesday meeting set yet for NBA players and owners...
 
Can someone do a "Cliffnotes" summary of all this in the last few days?

It sounds like Stern is just throwing out his own revenue split for the league and cap system because he's getting tired of nothing being accomplished so he set a deadline.
 
That summed it up nicely. iv tried not to care to much about the lockout but im now in the same boat a few others are which is a canceled season would kill my interest for years to come.
 
CBS

To correct the record, there were only THREE sign-and-trades involving tax teams during previous six-year CBA, according to league source.

Eddy Curry to Knicks, Kwame Brown and Laron Profit to Lakers, and Shawn Marion to Dallas. That's it.

There've been a grand total of TWO extend-and-trade deals that anyone can remember: Garnett to Celtics and Melo to Knicks. That's it.

Jamal Crawford to the Knicks.
 
I would hope both parties understand how badly they will hurt their image and fanbase (and thus revenue) if it gets to the point players feel the need to actually file for decertification.
 
Got a knot in my stomach over this....... wife is all stressed out!
 
Bill Simmons

Info I'd love to find out: would Jeffrey Kessler's law firm make millions if NBAPA decertifies? If so his sabotage routine makes more sense.
 
New meeting set for 1:00 pm Eastern in NY. A small group, maybe 5 on each side.
 
Also: do players fully realize that Stern only controls a majority vote by owners for less than 8 more hrs? Today is D-Day by ALL accounts.
 
Broussard

Sources say Union is "extremely disappointed" in Jeffrey Kessler's comments calling owners' treatment of players like "plantation workers."
 
NBA working on getting some owners to fly in for last ditch meeting with union today, source said.
 
As of last night, labor committee chairman Peter Holt was preparing to fly to NY for potential meeting today, source says.
 
Simmons

Dissenting owner update: looks like Wash/Den are "no" votes and Cle/Phx are with Stern. Still digging for 100% official list of the 13 no's.
 
Kessler regrets "plantation" remark, plans to call Stern to apologize. Or he can just tell him in person at afternoon meeting.
 
Despite the #NBA lockout and no games being played, the Minnesota Timberwolves still lost by 18 last night
 

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