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Source briefed on talks says this about having reached a deal: "Not yet, we have to cross T's and dot I's. Right there though."#NBA lockout
 
Mike Monroe: I'll say this about Checketts: Every time he's tipped me on anything (more than a few times) he was right on the money ... just saying
 
Brian T Smith



For a big-money guy, Checketts is about as real and no-BS as they come.
 
Ken Berger: Person in the room assures me that no agreement has been reached. They're about to hit the five-hour mark here in New York.
 
KBergCBS

Person in the room assures me that no agreement has been reached. They're about to hit the five-hour mark here in New York.
 
Source in the room on Checketts: "100 percent false."
 
Stein



Reminder: Even if Checketts' radio interview is accurate and sides have reached accord in NYC, owners & players must VOTE before it's a DEAL
 
From Philly beat writer Kate Fa_gan.
@deepsixer3:
Source briefed on talks about having reached a deal: "Not yet, we have to cross T's and dot I's. Right there though." #NBA
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In addition, a person briefed on talks says deal is not done. Keep in mind, as @sam_amick points out, those in room very cautious.
 
Players' side source in the room says of alleged agreement, "Not at all (true). We have yet to discuss our positions at all."
 
Aldridge


Just heard from 3 people who are, as we say, directly involved in talks. "Not true...long, long list of things to go." "He is wrong." "No."
 
Woj



Stern still has briefing call set for this evening with owners' labor relations committee, source tells Y! Sports.
 
Person involved in NBA talks: "Nothing has changed between last night and today."
 
I'm thinking it's done, just needs to be formally approved before they can say anything.
 
Hopping in the plane to Vegas. Hope I land to some good news!!!!!
 
Amick

Don't know the root of the sentiment, but I've been hearing through NBA backchannels since after meeting last night that it would get done.
 
Amick

Which means very little considering hawkish owners and prideful players are involved. Until they're shaking hands for the cameras...
 
That being said, a source close to it told me today that a particular owners' concession late last night broke off the talks in a good way.
 
HCP, if the owners & players settle tonight can we party with Mrs HCP?
 
The guy who 'broke' the news on a deal totally backtracks.

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He was discredited in a matter of minutes by like 50 other tweets. What's the big deal?
 
KBergCBS Ken Berger

"Remember that time, when Dave Checketts said the lockout was over? That was awesome..."
 
NEW YORK -- Negotiators for the league and players' association made modest progress on the use of the mid-level exception for luxury tax-paying teams Thursday, but other guidelines governing exceptions and the tax level emerged as a new sticking point, three people briefed on the labor talks told CBSSports.com.

One of the people said league negotiators signaled a willingness to raise the so-called "mini mid-level" to three years starting at $3 million for teams above the luxury-tax level, to be available every other year. The previous offer was a two-year deal starting at $2.5 million, available every other year to tax teams. There was no indication union negotiators were ready to agree to this slight improvement in the owners' proposal, as it would reduce the mid-level exception for tax teams from last year's five-year, $37 million total to three years and $9 million for teams above the tax line.

Also Thursday, a new hurdle emerged in the discussion over when teams would face the new restrictions owners are proposing for teams above the luxury tax threshold. Two of the people briefed on the talks said owners were pushing for teams under the tax at the time of the transaction to be restricted from using the full mid-level -- four-year deals starting at $5 million -- if the signing put the team over the tax. In that case, the team would be restricted to use of the mini mid-level. Union negotiators want the new restrictions to be based on where a team's payroll sits in relation to the tax prior to the use of the exception -- not where it stands afterward.

After a 12-hour session Wednesday produced minimal progress, the two sides pushed past the eight-hour mark Thursday with the threat looming that league negotiators would pull their existing offer off the table and replace it with a worse one. The new offer, originally scheduled to be furnished to the players at 5 p.m. Wednesday but delayed due to the ongoing talks, would feature a 53-47 economic split in favor of the owners and also would include a hard team salary cap and rollbacks of existing contracts. The two sides currently are negotiating off a league proposal that would give the players a 50 percent share of revenue and maintain a soft-cap system -- albeit with a vastly more onerous luxury tax system, more restrictions on exceptions, shorter contracts and smaller annual raises.

On Tuesday, union officials held a meeting with more than 40 players, including 29 team player reps, and signaled a willingness to meet the NBA on its 50-50 economic split provided that a list of five or six system-related issues could be resolved to the players' satisfaction. One of the roadblocks in the talks, according to multiple people involved in the process, is that players who previously did not realize how severe the owners' proposal was had become emboldened to push for significant concessions on the remaining system points. Even if and when a deal is reached, agents who have long opposed the concessions delivered to the league by union negotiators will be advising their clients to review the proposal closely and vote against it if it isn't substantially different than what the players learned about Tuesday.

"The players aren't going to be hoodwinked on this one," one such agent told CBSSports.com.

Also slowing progress in the bargaining room, according to one of the people briefed on the talks, was the fact that the league still has not fully shared details of its plans to enhance revenue sharing -- a mechanism that would redistribute money from high-revenue teams to low-revenue teams at supposedly more aggressive rate than previously. Hard-line players and agents are resisting further system concessions, which the league says it needs to create more competitive balance, until it becomes clear what owners are going to do in that regard through revenue sharing.

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/33225313
 
Amico seems positive.....

NBA lockout isn't over. But my sources saying sides will have deal in principle by Friday afternoon. How they know, I have no idea.
 
Committee member Keyon Dooling just left hotel, said he was "taking a break." Talks about to hit eight-hour mark on Manhattan's East Side.
 
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