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It's difficult to file an anti-trust case when members of your union are making millions of dollars playing overseas, isn't it?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I would feel sorry for Roy if all the player's contracts are voided. He'll never see a 10th of that payday.
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It's funny that we feel sorry for rich people losing what we never had to begin with. Well, I never had. Clearly MM's doing a roaring trade in moving narcotics.
 
PapaG said:
Not only is there no season, but the players can't even comment on it during the legal process.

Either the players are hoping to win a huge lawsuit, which would effectively destroy the NBA, or they are going to be coming back to a system what will make 50/50 look like a gold mine.

Never underestimate the impact of ego.
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Yep, players taking a huge gamble in the courts, if they lose say hello to an NHL style contract - which was awful compared to what they could have settled for
 
Mediocre Man said:
At least this season
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If I have my rickety set of assumptions and speculation right, if the players decertify successfully, technically the lockout ends. From that point, it's a battle of two powerful parties ("The Players" and "The Owners") both going after the resources they need to start competing leagues up.

I think the players will try to go all the way and attempt to torpedo the NBA as a whole and start their own league. If such actions begin, I see the owners hiring up as many players as they can gather and restarting the NBA.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Much as I like the NBA (and sad as I am for the HCPs of this world), I'm kind of glad the players didn't just knuckle under to the squealy plurality of owners who forgot what a privilege it was to own a team.
Yes, the players are absurdly rich. But the vast majority of them came from poverty. The owners didn't. (Comparative to them now poverty, but compared to most players' backgrounds, absurd wealth.) The owners are used to imposing their will because they are ridiculously rich and people have to do what they say. I would almost like to see the NBA go down in flames to stop that happening. The quality of players in foreign leagues will go up dramatically (and China will almost certainly use the opportunity to pump up its domestic league).
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The NBA players, in the deal they just rejected, had more money, and more say in the league, than any other FIBA league in the world allows their players. So, if I read you correctly, these same players should run to other leagues where they will make less money, have a much lower quality of a work climate, and have almost no say in what their owners can and cannot do?

Weird logic...
 
Seriously, though: decertification takes a long time. If the owners don't make a few concessions quickly then it's their problem. The players came down from 57% to 50%, for fuck's sake! The owners (or enough of them) got greedy. And with people like Gilbert, they're just mad about star players having freedom of movement.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Seriously, though: decertification takes a long time. If the owners don't make a few concessions quickly then it's their problem. The players came down from 57% to 50%, for fuck's sake! The owners (or enough of them) got greedy. And with people like Gilbert, they're just mad about star players having freedom of movement.
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The owners came up from 43% to 50% though
 
PapaG said:
The NBA players, in the deal they just rejected, had more money, and more say in the league, than any other FIBA league in the world allows their players. So, if I read you correctly, these same players should run to other leagues where they will make less money, have a much lower quality of a work climate, and have almost no say in what their owners can and cannot do?

Weird logic...
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On the other hand, they'll get to travel the world, learn new languages, become better people! It's win-win. Plus schadenfreude at the value of owners' franchises slowly crumbling is priceless.
 
They should have just done what any good government would do: split the BRI 53/53.
 
I gained respect for Kobe Bryant today.

During the press-conference everyone was smiling and joking around while Kobe looked furious.
 
Did the player reps not take it back for a vote from the other players, then? I am curious what the entire player-base thinks of this.
 
The Sebastian Express said:
Did the player reps not take it back for a vote from the other players, then? I am curious what the entire player-base thinks of this.
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"Supposedy" it was unanimous and the player reps voted to go the route they have went, IMO ALL the player's should be given the chance to vote on something this important to all of them
 
The Sebastian Express said:
Did the player reps not take it back for a vote from the other players, then? I am curious what the entire player-base thinks of this.
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ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
One veteran player texted that his union rep "never called and never asked" his opinion on the offer.
 
Stern: "We are about to enter the nuclear winter of the NBA"
 
"It's just a big charade, and is irresponsible. What they've done is just destroyed incredible value that would have gone to the members of the union....They've been badly misled."

-Stern

I think we might have seen the last of players like Nash, KG, TD, etc.
 
I say tear apart this whole system and start all over again. The league already has stars coming together in three or four locations to win titles, with this trend only increasing each year.

If NBA gets a system that is at all like the NFL or NHL, it will be a big victory for small and mid market teams.

And while we are starting over, lets talk hard caps, non guarenteed contracts and of course a franchise tag . . . for our beloived GO.

What about the draft next year, same order as this year? Lotto?
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
I say tear apart this whole system and start all over again. The league already has stars coming together in three or four locations to win titles, with this trend only increasing each year.

If NBA gets a system that is at all like the NFL or NHL, it will be a big victory for small and mid market teams.

And while we are starting over, lets talk hard caps, non guarenteed contracts and of course a franchise tag . . . for our beloived GO.
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These are my issues as well. I couldn't give a rip how they divide up my money. But the system has to change.
 
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