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Blazer Fanatic said:
I don't. But you do. Which makes your opinion hypocritical. It's ok for LeBron, but not Mo? Turnover are bad, umkay. So you shouldn't turn the ball over no matter how high your salary, umkay.
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It's okay because 1) LeBron is not their point guard, and 2) LeBron actually plays at a very high level in other areas of his game.

Mo Williams has a below average PER. He is shooting a very poor percentage from the field. He is averaging nearly a 2-1 assist to turnover ratio, which is not very good for a point guard. He dribbles waaaaay too much, and his defense is sub-par. Put all that together and no, I'm not willing to overlook turnovers from Mo Williams, but I am willing to overlook turnovers from LeBron James.
 
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Vipers can't make a shot all of a sudden. Just daring the Stampede to win.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
13/6/6 in 17 min.

He looked to be going half-speed. I'd say he had a great first game. The rust is there but who didn't expect that? Out six months before SPL and then all of fall camp to now. I'm excited about his potential.
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Agreed. Most of his mistakes seemed to come when he was getting tired toward the end of his segments in the game. Hopeful he has the chance to get his fitness back in limited minutes once he returns.
 
Samuel said:
Agreed. Most of his mistakes seemed to come when he was getting tired toward the end of his segments in the game. Hopeful he has the chance to get his fitness back in limited minutes once he returns.
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You could really tell the difference when he was starting to get gassed.
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's okay because 1) LeBron is not their point guard, and 2) LeBron actually plays at a very high level in other areas of his game.

Mo Williams has a below average PER. He is shooting a very poor percentage from the field. He is averaging nearly a 2-1 assist to turnover ratio, which is not very good for a point guard. He dribbles waaaaay too much, and his defense is sub-par. Put all that together and no, I'm not willing to overlook turnovers from Mo Williams, but I am willing to overlook turnovers from LeBron James.

The difference is that Mo is shooting a horrible percentage from the floor, so when you pair that with the fact that he's
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A few realities I'd like you to consider:
Turnovers are bad.
Turnover happen.
Mo is Blazer.
The Blazers have the most wins in the NBA.
 
Jackson looks like a guy you can bring up!

But as I looked I to it, his rights are owned by the Pelicans.

A spark off the bench guy.
 
Oh lord, it's a D league game thread and it's getting hijacked.
 
Blazer Fanatic said:
A few realities I'd like you to consider:
Turnovers are bad.
Turnover happen.
Mo is Blazer.
The Blazers have the most wins in the NBA.
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This just shows me that you can't formulate an actual argument to counter my position.

We're 26-7. That's awesome. I'm so happy that the team is winning. Our bench still isn't very good, and Mo Williams is, by proxy, not very good.
 
Noone knows what position LeBron plays...he is their pt guard whenever he wants to be. Great player, sure. We're not arguing about that. It's that valuable players often have high turnover rates. Kobe does too. Players have shooting slumps. Mo just had one. Like I said, I've got his back, he's a Blazer on one of the best Blazer teams I've seen since 77-78. Stotts calls him the best backup pt guard in the NBA and sorry Nate, Stotts trumps your opinion in my view.
 
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Natebishop3 said:
Damian averages 6 assists per game and 2.2 turnovers in 36 minutes per game.

Mo averages 4.9 assists and 2.2 turnovers in 24.3 minutes per game.

So Dame averages nearly 3-1 assist to turnover ratio.

Mo averages around 2.2-1 assist to turnover ratio.
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OTOH, Mo gets an assist every 5 minutes, while Dame only gets one every 6 minutes. :ghoti:
 
Natebishop3 said:
How about we stay away from the personal attacks?
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"You're the only one who's been flipping out for well over a month, who I also haven't ignored for being an attention seeking troll that doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to talking basketball."

If you are referring to this as a personal attack, you should have someone read it out loud to you.
 
Natebishop3 said:
This just shows me that you can't formulate an actual argument to counter my position.

We're 26-7. That's awesome. I'm so happy that the team is winning. Our bench still isn't very good, and Mo Williams is, by proxy, not very good.
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anyone can formulate an argument...what we shouldn't do here is tell others what they "can't do"
 
Blazer Fanatic said:
I don't. But you do. Which makes your opinion hypocritical. It's ok for LeBron, but not Mo? Turnover are bad, umkay. So you shouldn't turn the ball over no matter how high your salary, umkay.
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I think your missing the big picture Nate is conveying. He isn't necessarily saying LeBron gets a pass regarding his turnovers, but his overall offensive and defensive production on the floor severely outweighs how many turnovers he has per game. Turnovers are essentially no more than a shoulder shrug in his case.

Comparing turnovers between Mo and Lebron is in Mo's favor has I'm sure LeBron touches the ball much more than Mo every game. Thus, creating more possible turnovers committed by LeBron.
 
Natebishop3 said:
This just shows me that you can't formulate an actual argument to counter my position.

We're 26-7. That's awesome. I'm so happy that the team is winning. Our bench still isn't very good, and Mo Williams is, by proxy, not very good.
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I can "formulate", I have "formulated", you don't agree. Carry on complaining about Mo every single day.
 
Natebishop3 said:
How about we stay away from the personal attacks?
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Blazer Fanatic said:
"You're the only one who's been flipping out for well over a month, who I also haven't ignored for being an attention seeking troll that doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to talking basketball."

If you are referring to this as a personal attack, you should have someone read it out loud to you.
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Gotta back BF here. I actually was going to quote her initial post and say, "Hey Nate--she just complimented you, big time. She says that you do know your ass from a hole in the ground!! (Although we all know better...)"
 
I love that we are comparing Mo to Lebron . . . only in a Blazer forum.

Now we just need BNM to show stats on how Mo is more of a value than Lebron (love you BNM : ) )
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I agree with her on this one Nate. I actually was going to quote her initial post and say, "Hey Nate--she just complimented you, big time. She says that you do know your ass from a hole in the ground!! (Although we all know better...)"
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Well, she hasn't been around here all that long so you have to cut her some slack.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Gotta back BF here. I actually was going to quote her initial post and say, "Hey Nate--she just complimented you, big time. She says that you do know your ass from a hole in the ground!! (Although we all know better...)"
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She didn't ignore me because she CAN'T ignore me. I'm a mod. You guys are stuck with my opinions. :MARIS61:
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Gotta back BF here. I actually was going to quote her initial post and say, "Hey Nate--she just complimented you, big time. She says that you do know your ass from a hole in the ground!! (Although we all know better...)"
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Couldn't that be read 2 different ways:

does she not ignore Nate even though he is an attention seeking troll who doesn't blah blah blah
or
does she not ignore Nate because he isn't an attention seeking troll . . .


God I love D-league threads
 
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