The Portland Trail Blazers 2017 Exit Interview (The Ringer)

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I don't like listening to Olshey now, but here's an extended summary:

He's talking about trading picks for players that can help now. With Olshey, I don't trust that these players will be true difference makers. Just guys that could get us back to the 5th seed... He'll mortgage the future for playoff mediocrity, I can see it coming now. Those picks aren't powerful enough to trade for any really good player.

At the start, he's already kissing Allen's ass, talking about how he loves not having to worry about Paul's profit, and how Paul's so dedicated to winning over profit, yadda yadda. ("Please don't fire me yet, the Lakers just got their new GM")

Olshey referencing advanced stats with Nurkic, I wonder how much things like DRPM. He's also defending Denver's trade, to hopefully make trades possible in the future.

I do like that Olshey references that we only have 60% of a starting lineup. What I really dislike is how he is saying that we still need to figure out if our guys are capable. We haven't yet figured that out yet?!?! How many years do we need to figure it out???

He references are stats with Nurkic, but doesn't reference how easy our schedule was. He's painting the picture the way he wants it to look. He's painting himself in a better light.

He says Nurkic allows other guys to "be what they are, not something they're not". Aka, they're mediocrity is less noticeable as the 4th-7th options instead of the 3rd through 6th options. Aka, they're not good enough to handle that big of a responsibility on a mediocre team. So how can they handle a responsibility on a contending team, if they can't on a mediocre team, with two big-time scorers next to them???

A bunch of obvious stuff: "Games early in the year bit us in the end." Duh. "It hurt our seeding." Duh. Why's that? No veterans and mediocre role players. Everyone was too comfortable, we didn't get the wake up call early enough, guys thought it'd be easy to flip a switch.

Olshey calling out Meyers lack of confidence. Basically saying Meyers has no more distractions or excuses anymore. Sounds like Meyers will be back next year. FUCK.

Olshey is spot on about tanking though. Can't build a winning culture by tanking. Can't look CJ and Dame in the face and tell them they'd rather have the 10th pick instead of the 15th pick. Can't get it in their heads that they might be told to tank if they have a February lull. Makes a good point about later picks. Sometimes they can be good, because it gives an opportunity to take a certain player without the reaction that they "reached", and puts less pressure on the incoming rookie if they're a mid-1st instead of a lotto pick.

Olshey is too much a players GM. He's not gonna trade players because of their contract, unless he's getting some sort of return. He won't dump contracts for nothing, because he won't want to come across as saying that player isn't worth that contract. For his own sake, because he gave them the contract, and for the player, who Olshey doesn't want to say is overpaid, since he's a players GM. Get ready for multiple years of Crabbe and Turner. He won't trade either. Leonard will probably back. This offseason is gonna be a letdown for nearly everyone. He'll trade a pick or two for an average backup C and he'll call it good.

Olshey talking about Vonleh is interesting. Talking about how Vonleh is the nicest player in the locker room, but wants Noah to be more mean on the court. I agree with this.

Turner will be back for sure. Olshey talking about getting Turner 100% comfortable with the offense and the other guys this off-season. Loves Turner guarding PGs. Still thinks Turner's versatility is a great asset. Apparently thinks Turner can play 4 positions... For fucks sake.

Says we paid 2 years worth of money in 1 summer. Says he still hopes that they can "believe enough" in the roster can take the jump (ugh). Credits Paul with wanting to pay the money...

Says this is supposed to be year 2 of a rebuild... Sounds like an excuse for being mediocre, saying that not spending money would've burned up Dame's prime years, and losing would've been bad. Says that we're rebuilding while winning. This logic is very flawed. The young players we have won't be good enough, and the money we spent will burn up Dame's prime years because we can't improve upon mediocrity.

Says Dame is enough of a leader to the point where we don't need veterans... Lillard and Turner are the veterans. Says it would've been great to have Chris Kaman around in that 15th spot. Chris needs to be an assistant coach. Kaman would be a great big man coach for Nurkic. Says he would love Kaman to join Terry's staff but there's too many "Moose Elk" to hunt. Lol.

Apparently Terry did a "great job". He's a very "consistent" coach. Says Stotts is very emotionally grounded. This is a negative!!! Stotts doesn't defend his players from bullshit calls by refs, he doesn't get on his team enough when he needs to, as he's too emotionally grounded. Olshey said Stotts doesn't let refs have it, and says it like its a good thing. Ew. Ew. Ew. Popovich isn't emotionally grounded, and he's the best coach there is.

Says that everyone is excited for this draft, and Olshey says it's very deep. It sounds like he'd trade 26th for two 2nd round picks. Has already talked about teams wanting to move up to draft a guy that's not already in his range.

Olshey putting Canzano on blast. LMAO. Says he's glad Canzano's slam piece was written by someone who came to 2 games all year with the motivation to abuse his privileges as a media member to get tickets for his relatives to get pictures taken with the opposing PG while wearing the opposing PGs jersey. LMAO FUCK CRAPZANO. Neil says "clearly that's an unbiased opinion". Says the cultures good. Brings up a lot of good points about the culture.

Says he needs to do a better job selling the team and city when they're pursuing free agents.

Says we may have too many guys that don't know how to win. Says you get guys that are under the radar and can outperform the situation they were previously in, but the byproduct of that is that those guys usually haven't won, and don't know what it takes to win. (ex. Harkless, Aminu, Davis, Shabazz, etc.)

Says sending Layman and Quarterman to the D-League was a setback for them, and that they made more progress with the team. Sounds like he wants a D-League franchise based in the Portland area, where the Blazers control the team. I'd love having a D-League franchise here in Vancouver to be honest.

Thanks the media. Says last year it was really hard to get guys to do draft workouts last year because we had no firsts, but now this year we're at the top of the heap with guys willing to workout for Portland.

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Looks like he'll only make minor tweaks. This team won't be much different. He's gonna ride or die with guys like Turner and Crabbe.
Thanks! Although it was quite discouraging to read. Fuck Turner. Fuck Stotts. I'm not at all excited about him trading picks for players - in his entire tenure as Blazers GM the only really, truly great player he targeted in a trade (or Free Agency for that matter!) was Nurkic. Everyone else was mediocre or sucky.
 
Thanks! Although it was quite discouraging to read. Fuck Turner. Fuck Stotts. I'm not at all excited about him trading picks for players - in his entire tenure as Blazers GM the only really, truly great player he targeted in a trade (or Free Agency for that matter!) was Nurkic. Everyone else was mediocre or sucky.
And the trade for Nurk he said was more about the pick. Lucked into that one.
 
Scalma and Ukrainefan, you are missing the meaning that I see in Meyers interview. He is clearly sensitive to the barrage of negative vibes that he is getting and is reflecting the truth that basketball is a game of confidence. What Meyers is missing is that zoning in that he has shown in earlier years when making 40% or more of swish3s, screening with excellence, and sharp passing. Both Dame and Meyers stated that feeling the confidence (which is what they mean when talking about getting the feel or getting the rhythm) is needed for optimum success. Yes, Meyers is stating some opposites, especially when he says that the criticism by fans is not a factor. "I could care less" is an opposite platitude. I think he says that because he hopes that saying this might decrease the negatives that he will receive.

What Dame, CJ, Allen, Noah, Chief, or any of the Blazers must feel as a major negative force against their performance is the kind of criticism that is showing in this forum. The negative vibrations of being booed that we saw in the game 4 playoff are hard to overstate. What all of the Blazers need is the feeling of fan support for the positives that they accomplish to play their best. When a player shoots with that "in the zone" feeling (or rhythm) based on confidence in what he can do for the team, you see the kind of success so vividly demonstrated by Curry, Durant, Thompson, and Green for the Warriors. When a player shoots with the haunting sounds of boos from his home court fans, the elements of fear negate that feeling of excellence and lead to missed attempts.

If you listen to the Dame and Meyers interviews carefully, you can see why it is important to provide these guys with confidence that leads to success. IMO, choosing to boo and to post condemning comments about Blazers is just destructive behavior. To make progress, I suggest that we look for ways to boost Blazer confidence, bringing more success with swish3s, screens, ball movement, defense, and wins next season.

Professional basketball players cannot simply rely on the fans to pat them on the back and tell them good job in order to stoke said players confidence. A player must believe in himself, must have confidence in himself, in order to develop, to succeed. Players who have that built in like Lillard are the ones who succeed. Meyers is fragile and unsure of himself, he is his own enemy. Players like him don't survive in the NBA.
 
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Professional basketball players cannot simply rely on the fans to pat them on the back and tell them good job in order to stoke saod players confidence. A player must believe in himself, must have confidence in himself, in order to develop, to succeed. Players who have that built in like Lillard are the ones who succeed. Meyers is fragile and unsure of himself, he is his own enemy. Players like him don't survive in the NBA.
IMO, Meyers is a sensitive guy who really wants to proudly represent the Blazers, tries hard, and has at times been excellent. He and all of the Blazers should be given encouragement from the fans, as they will have greater success hearing cheers rather than with boos. What Blazer fans can do is to be constructive to increase chances for success. Negative pronouncements in your last 2 sentences do not help.
 
IMO, Meyers is a sensitive guy who really wants to proudly represent the Blazers, tries hard, and has at times been excellent. He and all of the Blazers should be given encouragement from the fans, as they will have greater success hearing cheers rather than with boos. What Blazer fans can do is to be constructive to increase chances for success. Negative pronouncements in your last 2 sentences do not help.
If a player constantly needs to be propped up by fans, he'll never succeed. Blazer fans have supported the dude until this year, and it's not enough. He's admitted he struggles mentally. Blazer fans can't fix that, and I don't think he can either. It is what it is. His mentality has gone down the drain, and Blazer fans can't save his own mentality for him. At this point, he's a lost cause, and needs a fresh start somewhere else.
 
So, I have decided to become a gimmick poster. I have some ideas I thought about but can't decide which one to pick, would you mind giving your opinion ?

1. Bring back McMillan
2. Aminu should get more time handling the ball
3. Pat should get all the backup minutes at the 1 & the 2

Also which font should I use ? I was thinking about this one
 
't decide which one to pick, would you mind giving your opinion ?
So, I have decided to become a gimmick poster. I have some ideas I thought about but can't decide which one to pick, would you mind giving your opinion ?

1. Bring back McMillan
2. Aminu should get more time handling the ball
3. Pat should get all the backup minutes at the 1 & the 2

Also which font should I use ? I was thinking about this one
4. We should extend Tim Quarterman for $20 mil/year
 
he mentored Dwight Howard in the off season back when Howard was in Orlando and has worked with guys...he's got great footwork and timing...something a kid like Meyers needs to learn.
Rasheed Wallace working with white bread Meyers Leonard? That would be the most shocking thing I've ever seen. And that's all I'm going to say about that.
 
So, I have decided to become a gimmick poster. I have some ideas I thought about but can't decide which one to pick, would you mind giving your opinion ?

1. Bring back McMillan
2. Aminu should get more time handling the ball
3. Pat should get all the backup minutes at the 1 & the 2

Also which font should I use ? I was thinking about this one
Pick number two! Number two!!
 
I'm gonna font you guys up.

Hire all the big man coaches you want but what Meyers needs can't be taught. We might have to face the fact that some guys have zero basketball instincts, can't see plays developing, can't anticipate and react. I don't think any amount of coaching will make Meyers go aggressively into contact, be in the right position on defense, or position his body to rebound or block shots.

A sports psychologist might help......

 
Maybe Meyers needs to microdose? Or skip the micro - wasn't there some blahsball pitcher who pitched a perfect game while tripping?
 
On
Dirt and Spague today at the 1 pm hour they had Mike Richman on from the Oregonian and he seemed to think that Meyers wasn't talking about the fans when he said his confidence reciprocated quote and was actually taking a shot at Stotts and the coaching staff about being yanked to the bench quickly after he makes a mistake compared to his teammates who make mistakes but still play and have a longer leash.
 
On
Dirt and Spague today at the 1 pm hour they had Mike Richman on from the Oregonian and he seemed to think that Meyers wasn't talking about the fans when he said his confidence reciprocated quote and was actually taking a shot at Stotts and the coaching staff about being yanked to the bench quickly after he makes a mistake compared to his teammates who make mistakes but still play and have a longer leash.
When you consider that Meyers had perfect swish3 shooting against Boston (4 for 4) and the Spurs (3 for 3) this year, and had been compared in 2015 to Kyle Korver and Stephen Curry (Uproxx Dime) when he was 10 for 13 (77%) for 3PA in the playoffs, perhaps there is a question about why they didn't play him more minutes to continue on for the 8 or 9 swish3s per game that he could contribute.
 
When you consider that Meyers had perfect swish3 shooting against Boston (4 for 4) and the Spurs (3 for 3) this year, and had been compared in 2015 to Kyle Korver and Stephen Curry (Uproxx Dime) when he was 10 for 13 (77%) for 3PA in the playoffs, perhaps there is a question about why they didn't play him more minutes to continue on for the 8 or 9 swish3s per game that he could contribute.
Cause he literally can't do anything else?

Cause he gives up more on defense than he gives us on offense?
 
Evan Turner has a couple of Massachusetts vehicles in his driveway. Maybe we are trading him back to Boston for their number 1 and Horford? ;)
 
What the fuck is a swish 3?

A Swish3 is when, in the Nation Basketball Association(NBA), a player on the court makes a three point shot and the ball never hits the rim. It goes through the hoop and only touches thenet, which provides a "Swish" sound.
This is more commonly found in 2 point shots, but because it is a much higher percentage shot, the emphasize does not hold weight. However, to make a three point shot and not hit the rim, is a feat deserving of its own name....

Swish3.

Swish3's inception came when a very skilled man with a lack of confidence logged onto an NBA forum for it's fans that, typically, the players avoid like the plague, as it has been proven that internet fans can be a bit... rabid.
So, said NBA player did not create an account with his own name, a name that would be recognized by most of the population of the city in which he plays for.
He created a moniker and called himself...

Swish3

Siwsh3 never thought that the people of the forum would be smart enough to put two and two together and come up with 4, but we did.

That's why Swish3 = 4.
 
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Dirt and Spague today at the 1 pm hour they had Mike Richman on from the Oregonian and he seemed to think that Meyers wasn't talking about the fans when he said his confidence reciprocated quote and was actually taking a shot at Stotts and the coaching staff about being yanked to the bench quickly after he makes a mistake compared to his teammates who make mistakes but still play and have a longer leash.


when you are a self-engineered one dimensional player ie a 3pt threat who spaces the floor, and you can't actually do either of those to any great effect, there is no reason for you to be on the floor.

other teams don't respect him on offence and he doesnt really seem to know what to do on D. honestly, wtf is the point of him being out there?

i didnt think it was possible, but i actually dislike him less after that exit interview. still no accountability or understanding why nobody rates him to do anything productive on the court.

i'm sure he's probably a nice guy n all, but holy fuck he's in a bubble....
 
Orion, swish3 is a strategy based on the 150% scoring power, rather than a narrow definition of the sweet sound from >22 feet. And success with swish3s depends a lot on player confidence, but it is hard to understand how lack of confidence could play into the definition. What can happen to get the 4 is a foul during a swish3, which is even more potent offense.

What seems useful is drawing attention to the growing reliance of winning teams on 13 or more swish3s per game, and that is why I chose the moniker. However, you are welcome to claim the name swish4. From any standpoint, high percentage 3PA shooting is a major strategic asset. More success will follow improved 3 point scoring and is worth pursuing IMO.
 
When you consider that Meyers had perfect swish3 shooting against Boston (4 for 4) and the Spurs (3 for 3) this year, and had been compared in 2015 to Kyle Korver and Stephen Curry (Uproxx Dime) when he was 10 for 13 (77%) for 3PA in the playoffs, perhaps there is a question about why they didn't play him more minutes to continue on for the 8 or 9 swish3s per game that he could contribute.
Lmao.
 
The toxic masculinity is saturated in this thread. It's pretty clear to me why suicide is such a problem for men. Troglodytes hold this belief that a man must take responsibility for everything that happens to him, notwithstanding the sheer physical nonsense such a belief entails. As well, real men are winners! Real men succeed! This isn't really the toxic masculinity that ever gets talked about, but it's clear many men suffer for it.
 
The toxic masculinity is saturated in this thread. It's pretty clear to me why suicide is such a problem for men. Troglodytes hold this belief that a man must take responsibility for everything that happens to him, notwithstanding the sheer physical nonsense such a belief entails. As well, real men are winners! Real men succeed! This isn't really the toxic masculinity that ever gets talked about, but it's clear many men suffer for it.

IO get what your saying. Just because Meyers may not cut it in the NBA doesn't mean he is any less of a man. But this isn't a masculinity forum. This is an NBA forum and the guy is claiming to be an NBA player. Most of us here have now come to disagree with this assertion. Some more vehemently than others, but I think the consensus is the NBA is full of men. Meyers is not showing himself to be NBA material... there for he isn't a real NBA man.
 
When you consider that Meyers had perfect swish3 shooting against Boston (4 for 4) and the Spurs (3 for 3) this year, and had been compared in 2015 to Kyle Korver and Stephen Curry (Uproxx Dime) when he was 10 for 13 (77%) for 3PA in the playoffs, perhaps there is a question about why they didn't play him more minutes to continue on for the 8 or 9 swish3s per game that he could contribute.

No.
 

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