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That Boston game....

Lets win now and send message to Lakers :)

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B-Roy said:
Spurs losing basically puts them basically 3 games behind us. They're done.

MPJ is the real deal though, and we play the Nuggets tomorrow.
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Don't think they're done, necessarily, but they won't be 8th. If they get in, they can still get to #9.
 
So, does anyone know the hierarchy for determining who is #8, #9, #10?

I'm assuming it goes like this:
1) Games back
2) winning percentage
3) head to head

If that is the case, then Portland would only need to go 3-2 in the remaining game (with one additional loss by the Spurs and Suns) to clinch the #9 spot.
After today's game, Pels & Kings would need Portland to loose 3 games to even have a chance at the #9.
 
tester551 said:
So, does anyone know the hierarchy for determining who is #8, #9, #10?

I'm assuming it goes like this:
1) Games back
2) winning percentage
3) head to head

If that is the case, then Portland would only need to go 3-2 in the remaining game (with one additional loss by the Spurs and Suns) to clinch the #9 spot.
After today's game, Pels & Kings would need Portland to loose 3 games to even have a chance at the #9.
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Winning percentage straight up
 
Have to tire out jokic. Keep a fresh body on him at all time
 
Chris Craig said:
Winning percentage straight up
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Yeah that's the first factor and I'm pretty sure we'll end up playing more than anyone else in the running so we will have the higher winning percentage than any team we're "tied" with in the standings but there are a lot of scenarios where other teams are actually tied for winning percentage and then it's my understanding that it will go to conference record.
 
Labinot41 said:
Lmfao almost everything has gone into our favour in the past few days. Nuggets injury report looks good, Millsap sitting is amazing because for some reason he allways cooks us
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I don't believe Murray is playing either. He seems to go off on us too.
 
tester551 said:
So, does anyone know the hierarchy for determining who is #8, #9, #10?

I'm assuming it goes like this:
1) Games back
2) winning percentage
3) head to head

If that is the case, then Portland would only need to go 3-2 in the remaining game (with one additional loss by the Spurs and Suns) to clinch the #9 spot.
After today's game, Pels & Kings would need Portland to loose 3 games to even have a chance at the #9.
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Yeah, I think most of the teams will only win 2 more games and I think we will win 3 or maybe even all 4 games that aren't against the Clippers (would love to see us beat them too). The thing I don't think you're accounting for is the likelihood the Grizz don't win any games in the bubble. They already weren't playing well and then they lost their second best player in Jackson. If they don't win any games then we will definitely pass them for the 8th spot and one of those other teams could get three wins and pass them to play us in the play-in at the 9th spot.
 
Hoopguru said:
Some of the teams will have played more games than others, like Portland 74 & SA 71 & Memphis 73 & NO 72
Is that an advantage or disadvantage?
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It's an advantage if you have played more games and are tied for games above or in this case below .500 which is usually how things play out in standings since everyone has played the same amount of games but this season if we end up 4 games below .500 and NOLA is also 4 games below .500 then we will have the higher winning percentage and therefore be in front of them. Memphis has that same advantage over SA. Sac is at 72 and Phoenix is at 73, So PHX is the same as Memphis and has the advantage over SA while Sac is the same as NO and are at a disadvantage to us.

I might add that you can look at it either way because the team that has had to play more has had more chances to win games and more chances to lose games so there shouldn't be too much for the teams with less games to complain about but if we weren't the team with the most games I would be ready to complain.
 
blazerkor said:
Yeah, I think most of the teams will only win 2 more games and I think we will win 3 or maybe even all 4 games that aren't against the Clippers (would love to see us beat them too). The thing I don't think you're accounting for is the likelihood the Grizz don't win any games in the bubble. They already weren't playing well and then they lost their second best player in Jackson. If they don't win any games then we will definitely pass them for the 8th spot and one of those other teams could get three wins and pass them to play us in the play-in at the 9th spot.
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I see Memphis winning 1 game. We’ll win at least 3. I don’t think anybody else catches Memphis. Blazers #8, Memphis #9. We win first play-in game and get ready for Lakers.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
I see Memphis winning 1 game. We’ll win at least 3. I don’t think anybody else catches Memphis. Blazers #8, Memphis #9. We win first play-in game and get ready for Lakers.
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Phoenix is beating Indy right now, I could see them going on a run and pulling ahead of the Grizz by virtue of having played more games this season.
 
Boy if we finnish 8th and Memphis 9th, that would be the best scenario you could ask for
 
Is it possible that the clippers rest their stars against us, to help us getting the 8 seed so we can play their rivals Lakers in the 1st round?
 
Labinot41 said:
Is it possible that the clippers rest their stars against us, to help us getting the 8 seed so we can play their rivals Lakers in the 1st round?
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It's possible but I don't know how likely it is. I think it would actually be unlikely because I think they would want to face Dallas in the first round a lot more than Houston, OKC or Utah but I could be wrong. In any case that first round match up would likely be on their minds more than the Lakers' first round opponent.
 
If Phoenix wins out they will finish above SAS, NOP, SAC. In that case they also need Memphis to lose 3 of 4 games to pass them.

Date 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
MEM>> --- OKC --- TOR --- BOS --- MIL
PDX>> DEN --- LAC PHI --- DAL --- BKN
PHX>> IND --- MIA --- OKC PHI --- DAL
SAS>> --- UTH --- NOP --- HOU --- UTH
NOP>> --- WSH --- SAS --- SAC --- ORL
SAC>> --- BKN --- HOU --- NOP --- LAL

Current W L
MEM 32 37
PDX 31 38
PHX 29 39
SAS 29 38
NOP 29 39
SAC 29 39

Best W L %
MEM 36 37 0.493
PDX 36 38 0.486
PHX 34 39 0.466
SAS 33 38 0.465
NOP 33 39 0.458
SAC 33 39 0.458

Worst W L %
MEM 32 41 0.438
PDX 31 43 0.419
PHX 29 44 0.397
SAS 29 42 0.408
NOP 29 43 0.403
SAC 29 43 0.403
 
blazerkor said:
It's possible but I don't know how likely it is. I think it would actually be unlikely because I think they would want to face Dallas in the first round a lot more than Houston, OKC or Utah but I could be wrong. In any case that first round match up would likely be on their minds more than the Lakers' first round opponent.
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They are playing the first of a back to back against us followed by Brooklyn. Maybe they rest guys against us and focus on only trying to win the easier Brooklyn game.
 
Ok I calculated win percentage if teams have 0, 1, 2 additional losses.

If we have two losses we need Memphis to lose 3, Phoenix to lose 1, and Spurs to lose 1. New Orleans can't catch us even if we lose two more games!

If we have 3 losses there might even be a chance we could make it as 9th, Phoenix and Spurs each lose two, plus New Orleans and Sacramento lose 1.

Additional losses below 0 1 2 3 4
MEM 0.493 0.479 0.466 0.452 0.438
PDX 0.486 0.473 0.459 0.446
PHX 0.466 0.452 0.438
SAS 0.465 0.451 0.437
NOP 0.458 0.444 0.431
SAC 0.458 0.444 0.431

Ideally lets just win the next two or three games and clinch that 8th seed early! Would be great to give Lillard a rest, only have to win one playin game, and get ready to give the Lakers a tough series.
 
I’m so impressed with Phoenix and am happy for their fans. Dead last in West restart and just said let’s go for this. That’s how you compete. You just refuse to lose. Go Pacers though.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Ok I calculated win percentage if teams have 0, 1, 2 additional losses.

If we have two losses we need Memphis to lose 3, Phoenix to lose 1, and Spurs to lose 1. New Orleans can't catch us even if we lose two more games!

If we have 3 losses there might even be a chance we could make it as 9th, Phoenix and Spurs each lose two, plus New Orleans and Sacramento lose 1.

Additional losses below 0 1 2 3 4
MEM 0.493 0.479 0.466 0.452 0.438
PDX 0.486 0.473 0.459 0.446
PHX 0.466 0.452 0.438
SAS 0.465 0.451 0.437
NOP 0.458 0.444 0.431
SAC 0.458 0.444 0.431

Ideally lets just win the next two or three games and clinch that 8th seed early! Would be great to give Lillard a rest, only have to win one playin game, and get ready to give the Lakers a tough series.
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I really don't know about us because this is such a different team than we had before the stoppage but all of the rest of these teams should win less games going forward than they lose. They were all below .500, none of them changed significantly (I thought Zion might have changed NOLA but that's not been the case) and they are all playing against better competition. So I think it is very likely that all of the other teams will lose at least two more games and more likely three... I still think Memphis will lose all of the rest of their games. So yeah, I think we'll be in the 8th spot and only have to win one game to get into the playoffs, which we'll do. I'd love to see us lock up the eighth spot early too but I'll just be happy as long as we get into the post-season and make some noise.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
I’m so impressed with Phoenix and am happy for their fans. Dead last in West restart and just said let’s go for this. That’s how you compete. You just refuse to lose. Go Pacers though.
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Yeah, they're actually a little scary. If they win out and are the 9th place team and we're in 8th, they're the last team I'd want to play. I think we would win one out of two but Booker and Ayton are a scary combo... I mean they aren't close to as scary as Dame and Nurk but still, if they win out, they will be red hot going into the play-in.
 
blazerkor said:
Yeah, they're actually a little scary. If they win out and are the 9th place team and we're in 8th, they're the last team I'd want to play. I think we would win one out of two but Booker and Ayton are a scary combo... I mean they aren't close to as scary as Dame and Nurk but still, if they win out, they will be red hot going into the play-in.
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Yeah I agree, they are 4-0 so far! They just won now.

I think even with 3 more losses we may stay above SAS/NOP/SAC.... but I don't think PHX is going to lose two of their next 4, especaily when a team like Dallas probably rests guys the final game.

So Blazers likely need at least 3 wins and may even need to win 4.
 
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