The Road to Impeachment

[barfo]

That Mueller is holding out on us isn't he? Why he's letting Trump run around free at this point is beyond me.

Mueller's job doesn't involve keeping you and I informed at every step.

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Mueller's job doesn't involve keeping you and I informed at every step.

barfo

He's gotta be careful not to wait too long or Putin will take over first....

 

[barfo]

He's gotta be careful not to wait too long or Putin will take over first....

It's the president's responsibility to fend off foreign adversaries. Too bad Trump's not interested in that.

barfo

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Probably nothing.

 

[barfo]

Impeachable difference? Now you're just saying he's dumb.

Yes, it is an impeachable difference. If stupidity led him to commit obstruction of justice in the eyes of the House, then stupidity is impeachable.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

he's not privy

True! But Mathews sees nothing there. You are not privy either, but you spout like old Faithful?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Interesting, so if Chris Matthews suddenly does see something to the Trump investigation then Marz & Denny will agree with him.

Good to know.

 

[MarAzul]

Good to know.

You ought to know, that is a reach too far.

 

[barfo]

True! But Mathews sees nothing there. You are not privy either, but you spout like old Faithful?

I don't spout any more than you spout, Mr. Teapot.

I don't think I've claimed that anyone is guilty - I'm eager to see the investigation continue and see what turns up.

There's a lot of smoke. Maybe there's no fire. Probably there is. Since I don't want President Pence, I'm not lobbying for early impeachment. But it might have to be done at some point - that's up to the Republican Party, not me.

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[MarAzul]

I'm eager to see the investigation continue and see what turns up.

Seems like high price entertainment for a few, with no profit in sight for the many.

 

[MarAzul]

I don't spout any more than you spout, Mr. Teapot.

Take a spout count, this thread. Most threads.

 

[barfo]

Seems like high price entertainment for a few, with no profit in sight for the many.

Your disregard for the rule of law is noted.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

Your disregard for the rule of law is noted.

Oh! I love the rule of law. I see no law broken. I hear of no law broken. I only hear loud mouths that want a savior to find something, anything.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Your disregard for the rule of law is noted.

barfo

Weird that nothing in his statement suggests what you seem to think it does.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Oh! I love the rule of law. I see no law broken. I hear of no law broken. I only hear loud mouths that want a savior to find something, anything.

Trump hoped for an end to an investigation into someone he felt did nothing wrong.

 

[barfo]

Trump hoped for an end to an investigation into someone he felt did nothing wrong.

Trump isn't King - his feelings aren't the law.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

Trump hoped for an end to an investigation into someone he felt did nothing wrong.

Trump is the chief executive of the United States. By any logic, he can order investigations to stop. He can fire those ordered to stop. He can order one to begin. I am thinking it is time for the third option, perhaps with several people as the prime subject.

 

[barfo]

Oh! I love the rule of law. I see no law broken. I hear of no law broken. I only hear loud mouths that want a savior to find something, anything.

Then you should be happy about the investigation, because Mueller should conclude very quickly that there is nothing to it and close the operation down and announce the all-clear.

Yet you seem to be very concerned... I wonder why?

barfo

 

[barfo]

Trump is the chief executive of the United States. By any logic, he can order investigations to stop. He can fire those ordered to stop. He can order one to begin. I am thinking it is time for the third option, perhaps with several people as the prime subject.

Nope. While he has the legal authority to fire people or stop/start investigations, that authority doesn't cover him doing so for criminal or self-interested reasons.

It's simply not true that he can literally do whatever he wants.

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Nope. While he has the legal authority to fire people or stop/start investigations, that authority doesn't cover him doing so for criminal or self-interested reasons.

It's simply not true that he can literally do whatever he wants.

barfo

Oh, well thank God nobody on Earth ever worries about their self interests.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Trump isn't King - his feelings aren't the law.

barfo

His feelings break laws? If he likes Miracle Whip because he feels it is better than mayo can we impeach him?

He hoped Comey could drop it because he felt dude was innocent. Sure sounds like nothing.

 

[barfo]

Oh, well thank God nobody on Earth ever worries about their self interests.

We are paying him to look out for our interests, not his.

barfo

 

[barfo]

His feelings break laws? If he likes Miracle Whip because he feels it is better than mayo can we impeach him?

He hoped Comey could drop it because he felt dude was innocent. Sure sounds like nothing.

No, I was saying his feelings don't MAKE laws.

Just because he feels Flynn is innocent (which, he pretty clearly is not) doesn't mean he can order the investigation dropped.

The 'he said hope' defense is not too strong either.

barfo

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Trump isn't King - his feelings aren't the law.

barfo

But apparently they are his wealth.

 

[riverman]

Take a spout count, this thread. Most threads.

translation....let me spout here

 

[riverman]

Trump is the chief executive of the United States. By any logic, he can order investigations to stop

only a dictator can do that

 

[riverman]

We've clearly gone back to the J.P. Morgan days of rule by self interest

 

[riverman]

I only hear loud mouths

you voted for him...

 

[riverman]

True! But Mathews sees nothing there

you now trust the media?