The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster (1 Viewer)

[chzbrgr]

One.

Two.

barfo

Also after having wasted 5 minutes looking at those two links they are bullshit.

 

[barfo]

Also after having wasted 5 minutes looking at those two links they are bullshit.

Of course they are! Portland is a great place.

barfo

 

[Chris Craig]

Because then when Melo is asked about it and quoted as saying "no way I'd ever consider Portland, it's a hell-hole", it makes for bad PR.

barfo

I understand that mentality, but he hasnt said that. On the contrary from what ive heard he said he would consider coming here. And, if a player is open too it, and if his only exit from New York is here, and he really wants out, he will come here.

 

[chzbrgr]

I didn't say that he had. I was suggesting that it was one possible outcome if Neil said publicly that he wanted Melo.

barfo

Lol Melo is one of the most professional basketball players in the NBA he would never get caught saying some shit like that to the press.

 

[Chris Craig]

Because it's illegal to talk about a player under contract with another team?

Really? Does that question mark mean your unsure? Even just to say we are going after him? Damn.

 

[Scalma]

Really? Even just to say we are going after him? Damn.

I'm pretty sure it is, especially for an executive. Players get a little bit more leeway.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Coon CBA FAQ #111

Tampering is when a player or team directly or indirectly entices, induces or persuades anybody (player, general manager, etc.) who is under contract with another team in order to negotiate for their services. The NBA may impose suspensions and/or fines up to $50,000 if tampering is discovered, however the league's practice has been to wait until a team lodges a complaint before investigating (but that's not to say they don't continue to monitor the league and won't take action independently if they discover that tampering has occurred). Here are some examples:

• The Miami Heat were discovered to have tampered with Pat Riley in 1995 by negotiating with Riley while he was the head coach of the New York Knicks. The Heat "settled," and avoided league-imposed penalties, by compensating the Knicks with $1 million and their first round draft pick in 1996.
• The league fined three teams (Hawks, Kings and Rockets) because of team statements to the media, team emails to prospective season ticket purchasers, and articles posted on team websites related to players under contract with other teams, but who would become free agents that summer. For example, Kings coach Michael Malone stated in a press conference that "Chris Paul would look pretty good in a Sacramento Kings uniform."

You may have noticed that when general managers and other team personnel talk to the press, they are careful to avoid talking about specific players who play for other teams. They do this in order to avoid tampering. The only allowed response when talking about players under contract with other teams is to decline comment.

Player-to-player tampering is considered to be a relatively common occurrence, and while technically illegal, it is rarely addressed by the league. For instance during the 2016 playoffs, Mavericks player Chandler Parsons referred to Rockets player Dwight Howard saying, "[. . .] I think he can still be a player in this league. And I think he's going to leave Houston, so why not come here?" Former Commissioner David Stern clarified in 2012 that such player-to-player recruitment is generally "not tampering or collusion that is prohibited."

 

[Chris Craig]

One.

Two.

barfo

Shame on you sir

 

[Chris Craig]

Coon CBA FAQ #111

Can't we all just get along

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Ok so I went through literally every team in the NBA to see who could (and would/should) make an offer for Melo. I came away with TWO teams outside of Portland. Charlotte and Utah. That's it. And the two "prizes" they'd offer would be Michael Kidd gilchrist and Dante exum. Even so, both of those teams would struggle to match salaries. They'd have to get the Knicks to take on multiple garbage contracts, while with Portland they'd only have to take on Leonard. Also if you look at the Knicks roster, their biggest need is at SF. Harkless is a prime candidate.

This is going to come down to Portland or staying in New York imo.

Burks and Johnson combined have about as much left on their deals as Leonard does on his, with one expiring next summer and one the summer after. If I'm NY, I'd rather have them than Leonard. Johnson especially could be a decent asset to attempt to flip at the deadline.

Of course, there's no way 'Melo waives his NTC to go to Utah.

 

[Chris Craig]

Burks and Johnson combined have about as much left on their deals as Leonard does on his, with one expiring next summer and one the summer after. If I'm NY, I'd rather have them than Leonard. Johnson especially could be a decent asset to attempt to flip at the deadline.

Of course, there's no way 'Melo waives his NTC to go to Utah.

Or Charlotte

 

[Scalma]

Burks and Johnson combined have about as much left on their deals as Leonard does on his, with one expiring next summer and one the summer after. If I'm NY, I'd rather have them than Leonard. Johnson especially could be a decent asset to attempt to flip at the deadline.

Of course, there's no way 'Melo waives his NTC to go to Utah.

So the best case scenario with those guys is they flip them in a trade? With Leonard at least they get a guy that fits the age of their roster and has shown in his career that he can at least be a stretch 5. Those are valuable. Olynyk just got 13-14m or whatever. I'd rather take a chance on Leonard than take on a best case scenario trade piece, especially if I'm rebuilding.

 

[santeesioux]

 

[dviss1]

Carmelo...?

Are we really gonna do this shit??

 

[Scalma]

Also we don't necessarily HAVE to dump Leonard on New York. We could easily just offer Davis and Connaughtons contract if we wanted Carmelo bad enough.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Wow, that came out of nowhere. I wonder what this does to the whole Carmelo to HOU scenario.

BNM

 

[PtldPlatypus]

So the best case scenario with those guys is they flip them in a trade? With Leonard at least they get a guy that fits the age of their roster and has shown in his career that he can at least be a stretch 5. Those are valuable. Olynyk just got 13-14m or whatever. I'd rather take a chance on Leonard than take on a best case scenario trade piece, especially if I'm rebuilding.

No--IMO, Burks is a better potential return than Leonard, and Exum is likely a better prospect than Harkless. Johnson as an expiring contract filler is just a bonus.

Yeah, the package Utah could put together is easily more attractive than ours (big 3 exclusive, of course)

 

[Minstrel]

Wow, New York puts the trade discussions on pause and Les Alexander puts the team up for sale. That's the ultimate overreaction to thinking Anthony is still a superstar!

 

[Boob-No-More]

No--IMO, Burks is a better potential return than Leonard, and Exum is likely a better prospect than Harkless. Johnson as an expiring contract filler is just a bonus.

Yeah, the package Utah could put together is easily more attractive than ours (big 3 exclusive, of course)

But does UTA have any interest in Anthony? And even if they do, is it mutual?

I'm guessing no to both.

BNM

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Carmelo...?

Are we really gonna do this shit??

No.
I don't think so.
I'd be surprised if it happened.
I guess it's possible.
I could see a path.
Ah, crap...

 

[tester551]

Really? Does that question mark mean your unsure? Even just to say we are going after him? Damn.

Yes. Other teams can't publicly talk about acquiring players under contract with another team. It's called tampering.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm just a little surprised that we haven't heard, one way or the other, about whether he would open up his list to Portland.

How has there not been a single journalist that got a hold of him to ask if he'd accept a trade to Portland?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

But does UTA have any interest in Anthony? And even if they do, is it mutual?

I'm guessing no to both.

BNM

Don't know--I was just responding to Scalma's suggestion that IF Utah wanted to deal for him that NY would have to take back more garbage from them than from us. I dispute that notion.

I've already said that there's no way Melo waives his NTC to go to Utah, so it's really a moot point.

 

[Minstrel]

I'm just a little surprised that we haven't heard, one way or the other, about whether he would open up his list to Portland.

How has there not been a single journalist that got a hold of him to ask if he'd accept a trade to Portland?

I don't think "Melo to Portland" is considered a serious possibility outside this forum, tbh. Even those who are aware that Portland is interested probably put Anthony's likelihood to add Portland to his list of acceptable teams at 0%.

 

[riverman]

Anybody else hoping this turns into some sort of Nurk and a first round pick all over again?

 

[H.C.]

I'm just a little surprised that we haven't heard, one way or the other, about whether he would open up his list to Portland.

How has there not been a single journalist that got a hold of him to ask if he'd accept a trade to Portland?

Even if a reporter did get in contact with him to ask that question, I have a feeling Melo will be advised to pull a Marshawn Lynch.

Anybody else hoping this turns into some sort of Nurk and a first round pick all over again?

Depends who the Nurk is, because for everything Melo isn't... What he is, is an upgrade over any forward the Blazers currently have on the roster.
I don't think he's coming to Portland because I don't think a player who believes he is as good as LeBron... Is willing to accept a backseat role to anyone but LeBron.
So yeah... Who knows though.
I didn't think Portland would get first rounder + Nurk from Denver. I thought DMC wouldn't ever be traded.

 

[Scalma]

I'm just a little surprised that we haven't heard, one way or the other, about whether he would open up his list to Portland.

How has there not been a single journalist that got a hold of him to ask if he'd accept a trade to Portland?

Because no one cares about Portlands involvement outside of Portland, and all we have is Jason Quick and those bald fucks.

 

[Natebishop3]

Because no one cares about Portlands involvement outside of Portland, and all we have is Jason Quick and those bald fucks.

It was reported nationally though....

 

[riverman]

Even if a reporter did get in contact with him to ask that question, I have a feeling Melo will be advised to pull a Marshawn Lynch.


Depends who the Nurk is, because for everything Melo isn't... What he is, is an upgrade over any forward the Blazers currently have on the roster.
I don't think he's coming to Portland because I don't think a player who believes he is as good as LeBron... Is willing to accept a backseat role to anyone but LeBron.
So yeah... Who knows though.
I didn't think Portland would get first rounder + Nurk from Denver. I thought DMC wouldn't ever be traded.

yeah....I was going for more of a surprise ending with the comparison....figuratively....we didn't see the Denver deal until it happened....everyone thought Noel was the target

 

[Minstrel]

It was reported nationally though....

It was reported nationally that Portland wasn't interested in an Anthony deal unless they were getting Anthony. To most people, that probably read as, "Portland no longer interested in being part of an Anthony deal."