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Scalma said:
Exactly. The argument shouldn't be portland vs Houston. It should be stay in New York or go to Portland.
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How can you argue Portland if the player with the NTC says no?

I think Portland would be a good fit, but the rumors about opening up to Portland are all from one source who said it was his opinion.

English is not my strength. So please forgive my typos, or don't.
 
Chupacabra said:
Glad you can spell.

R-E-B-U-I-L-D-I-N-G does not mean the whole team is under 25. You always have a veteran. i was wrong on my 3pt%, I looked at his FG%.

This is a mute point anyways. EG and Ariza are not going anywhere.
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Yeah, a veteran mentor, one of which Ariza and Gordon aren't. They have veterans. Noah, Sessions, Lee... Why would they need Gordon and Ariza on top of that?

The only argument you're come up with for why NYK would want them is "Rebuilding teams need veterans". However, NYK has veterans and doesn't value Ariza, who would be gone in a year and would only hurt their lottery pick and won't benefit younger players, and doesn't value Gordon, who would be their 3rd string SG, making $12M per year for the next 3 years, and wouldn't provide any veteran mentorship that NYK doesn't already have.

I know it's hard to admit, but the writings on the wall. HOU doesn't have the pieces to make this work.
 
Chupacabra said:
How can you argue Portland if the player with the NTC says no?

I think Portland would be a good fit, but the rumors about opening up to Portland are all from one source who said it was his opinion.

English is not my strength. So please forgive my typos, or don't.
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Because there's a chance he could welcome a trade to Portland because HOU doesn't have the pieces to trade for him.
 
Why would NYK accept aging players who's either leave right away (Ariza) or would create a logjam at SG for an extra $12M per year for the next 3 years (at a position where they're already spending $35M), instead of letting Melo play his final year out with the chance that they'd get Melo to open up his NTC and they'd get a real return for him?
 
Has Melo said no to Portland? All that is just speculation. Lillard was still talking about Melo like it was a possibility 24 hours ago. I'm sure his preference is Houston, but that does NOT mean he's against Portland.
 
BonesJones said:
Why would NYK accept aging players who's either leave right away (Ariza) or would create a logjam at SG for an extra $12M per year for the next 3 years (at a position where they're already spending $35M), instead of letting Melo play his final year out with the chance that they'd get Melo to open up his NTC and they'd get a real return for him?
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Why would anyone do anything? NYC is not the most competent franchise out there.
 
Strenuus said:
If houston had stuff to send over it'd already be done. That's a fan pipe dream to think players to trade are going to magically appear.
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So play this scenario out. There is a team that wants/needs to get rid of a player. They lowered the value of said player for a year. New GM comes in, old GM is now his boss and was involved in lowering value. Player has a NTC and picked your team as the lucky team he would like to play for. Knowing that the team that wants to rid itself of said player only has you to trade with, would you give them market value? Remember, they spent a year lowering his value before trade talks started so it is probably at an all time low.

I agree it is worse for NYK to get Ryan. More money and a longer contract. That makes me think that Melo would be a Knick, The knicks then have to hope he doesn't opt in for the $28M next yr. He probably won't, but what if. Melo is not getting $28M on the free market. Then you run the risk if he gets hurt and opts in.
 
Chupacabra said:
So play this scenario out. There is a team that wants/needs to get rid of a player. They lowered the value of said player for a year. New GM comes in, old GM is now his boss and was involved in lowering value. Player has a NTC and picked your team as the lucky team he would like to play for. Knowing that the team that wants to rid itself of said player only has you to trade with, would you give them market value? Remember, they spent a year lowering his value before trade talks started so it is probably at an all time low.

I agree it is worse for NYK to get Ryan. More money and a longer contract. That makes me think that Melo would be a Knick, The knicks then have to hope he doesn't opt in for the $28M next yr. He probably won't, but what if. Melo is not getting $28M on the free market. Then you run the risk if he gets hurt and opts in.
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Play this scenario out: Houston isn't getting him.
 
Chupacabra said:
So play this scenario out. There is a team that wants/needs to get rid of a player. They lowered the value of said player for a year. New GM comes in, old GM is now his boss and was involved in lowering value. Player has a NTC and picked your team as the lucky team he would like to play for. Knowing that the team that wants to rid itself of said player only has you to trade with, would you give them market value? Remember, they spent a year lowering his value before trade talks started so it is probably at an all time low.

I agree it is worse for NYK to get Ryan. More money and a longer contract. That makes me think that Melo would be a Knick, The knicks then have to hope he doesn't opt in for the $28M next yr. He probably won't, but what if. Melo is not getting $28M on the free market. Then you run the risk if he gets hurt and opts in.
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He isn't worth that much, but on the open market, he will get that. Milsap got more than that in Denver.
 
Chupacabra is just as much a Rockette homer as we are Blazer homers. Let's cut him/her some slack with the trade scenarios.

I've seen (and posted) a bunch of completely unrealistic one's during this post season.

I for one enjoy the civil banter, something we have been lacking here lately.
 
rotary111 said:
Chupacabra is just as much a Rockette homer as we are Blazer homers. Let's cut him/her some slack with the trade scenarios.

I've seen (and posted) a bunch of completely unrealistic one's during this post season.

I for one enjoy the civil banter, something we have been lacking here lately.
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Chups is a good one. Still going to give him/her some shit though.

Do we still get free Chalupacabras every time the Blazers score over 100?
 
rotary111 said:
Chupacabra is just as much a Rockette homer as we are Blazer homers. Let's cut him/her some slack with the trade scenarios.

I've seen (and posted) a bunch of completely unrealistic one's during this post season.

I for one enjoy the civil banter, something we have been lacking here lately.
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I.love.you.
 
rotary111 said:
Chupacabra is just as much a Rockette homer as we are Blazer homers. Let's cut him/her some slack with the trade scenarios.

I've seen (and posted) a bunch of completely unrealistic one's during this post season.

I for one enjoy the civil banter, something we have been lacking here lately.
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I don't mind. I liked Bones telling me I'm wrong. I was. His points were good.
 
BonesJones said:
Yeah, a veteran mentor, one of which Ariza and Gordon aren't. They have veterans. Noah, Sessions, Lee... Why would they need Gordon and Ariza on top of that?

The only argument you're come up with for why NYK would want them is "Rebuilding teams need veterans". However, NYK has veterans and doesn't value Ariza, who would be gone in a year and would only hurt their lottery pick and won't benefit younger players, and doesn't value Gordon, who would be their 3rd string SG, making $12M per year for the next 3 years, and wouldn't provide any veteran mentorship that NYK doesn't already have.

I know it's hard to admit, but the writings on the wall. HOU doesn't have the pieces to make this work.
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I agree, that is why it would not be a 2 team trade ... more than likely ... unless Knicks cave.
 
TheTruthHere said:
James Harden and Chris Paul are frauds. Chris Paul has never gotten to the conference finals in his 12 year career, and he chokes in the playoffs every year just like Harden. James Harden and Chris Paul are floppers, and they both get exposed in the playoffs when refs stop calling their BS.

2012: Harden choked in the Finals when he played for OKC while Durant averaged 32/6 on 55/40/84 splits, and Westbrook averaged 27/7/7. Harden was nowhere to be seen.

2013: Harden choked in the first round against a team missing Westbrook.

2014: Harden choked in the first round losing the first two games at home to the Blazers. Harden had an extremely inefficient series.

2015: Harden choked again. Harden got benched in a elimination game in the previous round and needed Josh Smith/Corey Brewer/Dwight to save him. Then in the next round against the Warriors, the Rockets lost by 35 at home in game 3 and Harden was terrible. Harden broke the record for most turnovers in a playoff game ever in game 5, and the Rockets were eliminated.

2016: Harden choked against a team missing Curry (back to back league MVP).

2017: Harden choked against a team missing Kawhi and Parker. Harden lost by 39 points at home in game 6 to a Spurs team missing Kawhi and Parker and got eliminated. Harden had 3 times as many turnovers than field goals made in game 6. Harden lost at home by 39 points to a team missing a consensus top 5 player and best 2 way player in the league. After the game, 5 Hall of Fame players said Harden quit.

Since 2013, Harden has gotten to play against teams missing Curry, Kawhi, Westbrook, and Parker in the playoffs. Harden has lost 3 series since 2013 while having a sizable injury advantage. Simply put, James Harden is a perennial postseason choker. The two perennial chokers of this generation are teaming up. Lebron (3 rings, 4 MVPs, 3 Finals MVPs), Curry (2 rings, 2 MVPs), Durant (1 ring, 1 Finals MVP, 1 MVP), Kawhi (1 ring, 1 Finals MVP), and Westbrook (1 MVP) all have 1 or more of the following: championship ring, Finals MVP, MVP. James Harden and Chris Paul have never won anything. They are frauds.

The Rockets are also coached by all time postseason choker Mike Dantoni.
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You are speaking the truth. How do you lose by 39 at home in must win game against injured team? And you forget to mention it was Chris Paul himself who was choking against Josh Smith rally. Paul and Harden are losers to their core.
 
Chupacabra said:
So play this scenario out. There is a team that wants/needs to get rid of a player. They lowered the value of said player for a year. New GM comes in, old GM is now his boss and was involved in lowering value. Player has a NTC and picked your team as the lucky team he would like to play for. Knowing that the team that wants to rid itself of said player only has you to trade with, would you give them market value? Remember, they spent a year lowering his value before trade talks started so it is probably at an all time low.

I agree it is worse for NYK to get Ryan. More money and a longer contract. That makes me think that Melo would be a Knick, The knicks then have to hope he doesn't opt in for the $28M next yr. He probably won't, but what if. Melo is not getting $28M on the free market. Then you run the risk if he gets hurt and opts in.
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To add to this. The team has also removed said player from all media. Pictures, promotionals, website pics, ...
 
KingSpeed said:
What rumor? What is source? You seem to be picking and choosing which rumors to believe.
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I am. This one is a cool dude. He puts up things he hears while stuff is happening, so it doesn't always play out. I said they were rumors, not facts. so ... grain of salt.
 
rotary111 said:
Chupacabra is just as much a Rockette homer as we are Blazer homers. Let's cut him/her some slack with the trade scenarios.

I've seen (and posted) a bunch of completely unrealistic one's during this post season.

I for one enjoy the civil banter, something we have been lacking here lately.
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Where the F is @Superbeard ? I miss that guys posts.
 
Scalma said:
It's like this; I want to fuck Mila Kunis. That doesn't mean I wouldn't fuck Scarlett Johansson as well.
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I want to fuck them at the same time
 
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