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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

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  • Not No but Hell No

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Schilly said:
At worst we waive Baldwin who likely isnt in any plans here anyway... Start Melo at the 4 with Aminu at the 3. If it doesnt work out waive him, nothing really lost.
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...except games.

Honestly, what about the start of this season makes people want to mess with the chemistry and rotation by bringing in an over-the-hill, non-defending, non-winning black-hole who obviously won't be happy unless he's a major part of the offense? He didn't work out with Westbrook and George. He didn't work out with Harden and Paul. Why would he work with Dame, CJ and Nurk?

Is everyone in on some kind of joke that I don't know about? Because I can't believe any rational human being would want this.
 
noknobs said:
...except games.

Honestly, what about the start of this season makes people want to mess with the chemistry and rotation by bringing in an over-the-hill, non-defending, non-winning black-hole who obviously won't be happy unless he's a major part of the offense? He didn't work out with Westbrook and George. He didn't work out with Harden and Paul. Why would he work with Dame, CJ and Nurk?

Is everyone in on some kind of joke that I don't know about? Because I can't believe any rational human being would want this.
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I believe at this point the only reason you get melo is if it's to please Dame. Like if Dame says to NO I want to play with Melo if we can do that, than I'd say go for it.
 
Another positive Melo would bring is an ability to get to the line, something Portland doesn’t really do that well. The last year and so Melo hasn’t gotten to the line as much but I think that’s more a product of the offenses he’s been in where he’s been turned into a spot up shooter. But this is a guy who on average has gotten to the line more than anybody on our roster and is a year and change removed from averaging about 5 trips, which would place him second behind Dame. Thats something that would help in the playoffs.
 
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Considering the source (Woj) I’m guessing this includes Olshey/Portland lol. We also have a full roster.
 
B-Roy said:
Jake isn't the greatest but he's sporting a 65TS% and doesn't need touches in a starting lineup with 2 ball heavy guards and another shot happy center. I don't think Melo would be good for that....
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Jakes minutes/role probably wouldn’t even be effected. Personally I think he’s earned a look at a bigger role but I also wouldn’t mind adding Melo. Starting off 10-3 is great, but that doesn’t mean Neil shouldn’t be out there trying to improve the roster. For me, Melo, or at least the theoretical ceiling of Melo, is an improvement. It’s worth the relatively minimal risk.
 
Feels a lot like when we added Detlef Shrempf. It looked good on paper, but didn't work out so hot in the real world. If we signed him, I'd be really curious to see him play. But if you are on a bad run since 2014, you aren't on a bad run. You suck.
 
How did OKC extract any value out of Melo? Schroeder has been great, esp with Westbrook hurt
 
James lamphear said:
He hasn't accept it the other 2 places why would you think he would accept here. Melo wants to be a starter not a bench player.
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Only way would be to make it a condition of signing him. "Understand, Mr. Anthony, that our starting lineup is already quite effective, and we have no interest in altering it. As such, we would like to bring you in specifically for a reserve role. We have more invested in Jake Layman than in you, and you will not be usurping the minutes he's already receiving. If you would like the opportunity to be a part of this team, you will need to accept a reduced role to fit in here."

Spell it out for him very clearly in advance, make sure he knows that if he's here, he's nothing special, and that at the first sign of discontent with that role, he's out. If he's willing to come here with those expectations pre-defined, then you give him a shot.
 
TBpup said:
"The Rockets had a net rating of -9.0 with Carmelo Anthony on the court and +1.8 with him on the bench. That's 11 points per 100 possessions worse with him on the floor, the worst net rating in the NBA of any player to have played more than 100 minutes." ~CBS Sports https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...uttering-defense-among-seasons-top-surprises/
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Not nearly enough sample size or variation in lineups to solely point to Melo as their problem. And growing pains should be expected, no?
 
yuyuza1 said:
Not nearly enough sample size or variation in lineups to solely point to Melo as their problem. And growing pains should be expected, no?
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Correct.

However, in the last 5 years, in 3 different teams, Melo had a positive net rating only 1 year. I'd say that's a pretty decent sample size about Melo, even if it is not for Melo being the cause of the problem in Houston.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Not nearly enough sample size or variation in lineups to solely point to Melo as their problem. And growing pains should be expected, no?
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Small sample size, Yes. But it's not that the Rockets are just better with him sitting it's that he has the "WORST net rating in the NBA..." And I haven't seen anything that would change that going forward. Could he be used better? Yes....he is still a very efficient post-up player. Maybe in that way his offense could better even out the defensive gap. But his defense is atrocious.
 
andalusian said:
Correct.

However, in the last 5 years, in 3 different teams, Melo had a positive net rating only 1 year. I'd say that's a pretty decent sample size about Melo, even if it is not for Melo being the cause of the problem in Houston.
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He's a flawed player. This is known. And the teams he's played with either didn't cater to his strengths or they were horrible fits to start. But he's also a really talented scorer. If he doesn't work out, we can waive him just as easily. The biggest loss in the transaction would be someone like Baldwin, who we can find on any scrap heap in town. Why not try him out in our system, with Dame leading the locker room? How many careers has this system resurrected?
 
Anyone else remember the 2000-2001 team (the year after our epic Game 7 collapse against the Lakers)? Our team was rolling, add some players late in the season (I don’t blame it on Rod Strickland, though), and we have a major collapse?

Some say the team was upset with special treatment of some of the vets such as Detlef Schrempf..... killed chemistry....
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
Anyone else remember the 2000-2001 team (the year after our epic Game 7 collapse against the Lakers)? Our team was rolling, add some players late in the season (I don’t blame it on Rod Strickland, though), and we have a major collapse?

Some say the team was upset with special treatment of some of the vets such as Detlef Schrempf..... killed chemistry....
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It was a bad move, that and signing Rod Strickland.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
Anyone else remember the 2000-2001 team (the year after our epic Game 7 collapse against the Lakers)? Our team was rolling, add some players late in the season (I don’t blame it on Rod Strickland, though), and we have a major collapse?

Some say the team was upset with special treatment of some of the vets such as Detlef Schrempf..... killed chemistry....
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I don't see the parallels, that team prior to adding Schrempf et Al was 12 minutes from winning a title.

Our current squad hasn't won a single playoff game in two years while our stars are getting neutralized due to lack of talent.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
Anyone else remember the 2000-2001 team (the year after our epic Game 7 collapse against the Lakers)? Our team was rolling, add some players late in the season (I don’t blame it on Rod Strickland, though), and we have a major collapse?

Some say the team was upset with special treatment of some of the vets such as Detlef Schrempf..... killed chemistry....
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Is there actual proof of Melo even being a chemistry killer? Seems more like a media driven narrative. The only issues Melo has ever had have been with coaches. And it’s not totally fair to put all the blame on Melo either, especially with the Hornacek incident, where he was just sticking up for his teammates. Everyone loves Stotts, so I don’t see that being a concern in Portland.

Everyone that matters on the Blazers is also pro Melo. Dame and CJ wanted him last summer, don’t see why they wouldn’t want him now. Shit, theres probably more room for him now than there was then.
 
I’m curious as to why the Rockets seem to be in such a rush to part company with Melo. Why not wait until the end of December when he could be included in a trade package? From the Blazers standpoint, it would certainly be better to swap a player rather than taking on more salary and Luxury Tax. What’s going on behind the scenes that’s so pressing that they want this done NOW?
 
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