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TBpup said:
If Lee/O'Quinn were coming in and Harkless/Leonard were going out, how would you feel?
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If we're dumping contracts with Harkless, I would hope that we could get out of Turners.

If Lee/KOQ comes back, then that would set up a trade for Crabbe to be moved.... although I'm not sure where to.
 
TBpup said:
Checked back with the East coast. Morey doing almost whatever it takes to make cap space for 'Melo. Anderson fits with what Portland would give up but Blazers don't seem to want him. Olshey prefers his old buddy Gordon if a deal is made but there are players from the Blazers other teams don't want and the Knicks want Harkless.
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No kidding?
 
TBpup said:
Checked back with the East coast. Morey doing almost whatever it takes to make cap space for 'Melo. Anderson fits with what Portland would give up but Blazers don't seem to want him. Olshey prefers his old buddy Gordon if a deal is made but there are players from the Blazers other teams don't want and the Knicks want Harkless.
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Gordon is injury prone as well.
 
The original frame work of the trade seems to be this:

NYK trades Melo for Hark/Leonard

Houston trades 1st/Anderson for Melo

Portland trades Hark/Leonard for Anderson

If I had to guess, the hold up is whether Portland or New York gets that 1st round pick. For New York, getting two pieces back (1st/Hark) for Melo is pretty good, even if they have to swallow Leonard's contract. For Portland, turning Harkless and Leonard into Anderson isn't really worth it if there's nothing else in the deal. So the question becomes, how can you sweeten the deal for either New York or Portland so that the team who doesn't receive the 1st round pick is satisfied. Houston probably doesn't want to give up two 1st round picks. One possibility is replacing Leonard with Turner. That gives the Blazers ~7 million in cap saves = ~21 million in luxury tax savings. However, New York probably doesn't want to take Turner and his 3/55 contract especially with Hardaway now making the same amount of money and Harkless presumably starting at the SF spot. You can also question whether dumping 7 million is enough for Portland to pull the trigger. Another option is to throw in a Davis/K0Q swap. I doubt New York would say no to that, Davis is expiring and the Knicks are rebuilding anyways. Portland's front court is awfully crowded though, and it would be difficult finding minutes for everyone. It is an option though.

Without knowing the motivations of each team, the other bit of news is that they are exploring 4 team deals. In that situation, I would expect them to be looking for one of the following:
  • A team that can actually take Anderson's contract, so that Portland can save money.
  • A team that is willing to give up some value for Turner/Leonard, to make the deal more palatable for Portland.
My thought is though, if either of those two conditions could have been filled by a team, a deal would have come into place long before the Melo talks even began. I'm struggling to see the value proposition for a team that wants Anderson/Turner/Leonard. The only way I see this going down is if there is a possibility of a creative swap of players from these 4 teams that certain teams value more than others. Like if we could swap Aminu for Crowder, for example (not saying Boston would do this, just an example of the type of move that needs to be present.)

Frankly the issue with the deal is that Houston really isn't giving up enough on it's side. Really, a 1st to dump Anderson is a completely fair trade, but the fact that they get a near star forward in return is stupid. However, with Melo's stupid no-trade clause, it actually gives Houston some leverage because there are only two teams that can actually deal for him.
 
Blazer staff is excited by seeing Biggie bring the ball up the court in summer league so they aren't concerned about Gordon's inability to play the 1. :-)
 
Nikolokolus said:
No kidding?
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Yes....what is your longtime NBA source telling you? Of course some of this has been reported elsewhere but I heard this from a very specific place and also confirmed it with a source associated with another NBA team.

Portland may even pull out because they don't like what they are getting back. The Knicks want Mo' and are trying to figure out a way for them/HOU/other team to get enough to Portland to make it happen while still unloading 'Melo.
 
TBpup said:
Yes....what is your longtime NBA source telling you? Of course some of this has been reported elsewhere but I heard this from a very specific place and also confirmed it with a source associated with another NBA team.

Portland may even pull out because they don't like what they are getting back. The Knicks want Mo' and are trying to figure out a way for them/HOU/other team to get enough to Portland to make it happen while still unloading 'Melo.
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Oh I was just being my usual sarcastic self about just how undesirable Crabbe, Turner and Meyers are. Carry on.
 
santeesioux said:
I didn't think he could, which is a shame because we'd have one of the best guard rotations in the league. We'd certainly have the best scoring with Gordon, by far.
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Gordon off the bench with Napier would be a strong 2nd unit guard rotation
 
TBpup said:
Yes....what is your longtime NBA source telling you? Of course some of this has been reported elsewhere but I heard this from a very specific place and also confirmed it with a source associated with another NBA team.

Portland may even pull out because they don't like what they are getting back. The Knicks want Mo' and are trying to figure out a way for them/HOU/other team to get enough to Portland to make it happen while still unloading 'Melo.
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Olshey likely wouldn't be having these conversations if there wasn't something he specifically wanted. I wonder what he is holding out for. Capela?
 
TBpup said:
Yes....what is your longtime NBA source telling you? Of course some of this has been reported elsewhere but I heard this from a very specific place and also confirmed it with a source associated with another NBA team.

Portland may even pull out because they don't like what they are getting back. The Knicks want Mo' and are trying to figure out a way for them/HOU/other team to get enough to Portland to make it happen while still unloading 'Melo.
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Good. stupid ass trade is stupid ass if all you get back is Anderson for Harkless.
 
HolyBackboard said:
We always bitch about a lack of bench scoring, so I would welcome Eric Gordon to Portland. He wasn't the 6th Man of the Year for nothin...
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Meh, 2nd most games he's played in his career. Other than his rookie season and last year he's averaged 48 games per season.... Yeah... No....
 
http://nypost.com/2017/07/12/knicks-and-rockets-move-closer-to-trade-as-pelicans-want-in/

The Pelicans, once the home of Ryan Anderson, expressed interest in being one of the clubs involved, according to a source. Anderson’s three-year, $60 million contract needs to be part of this transaction since Anthony’s $27 million pact — plus trade kicker — is so immense. The Knicks have no interest in Anderson because he plays Kristaps Porzingis’ position and is older than the mid-20s-type player the club seeks.

The Pels have nothing to offer really. Solomon Hill, Omer Asik and E'Twann Moore are making 12/10/8 million respectively. Maybe if Portland thinks swapping Leonard for one of those contracts is worth it. Asik's deal has 3 more years, with an ETO in 2020 that he would almost certainly exercise. Hill and Moore have 3 years guaranteed.
 
dviss1 said:
Meh, 2nd most games he's played in his career. Other than his rookie season and last year he's averaged 48 games per season.... Yeah... No....
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Wasn't there a rumor that Eric Gordon quit on Monte Williams?
Don't want this fool.
 
TBpup said:
Yes....what is your longtime NBA source telling you? Of course some of this has been reported elsewhere but I heard this from a very specific place and also confirmed it with a source associated with another NBA team.

Portland may even pull out because they don't like what they are getting back. The Knicks want Mo' and are trying to figure out a way for them/HOU/other team to get enough to Portland to make it happen while still unloading 'Melo.
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When is the last time there has been such a convoluted trade that took days and different scenarios? Jesus this is insane.
 
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OSUBlazerfan said:
How? How can they get close to Melo's # without giving Capela/Anderson/Ariza?
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Gordon + Ariza make the same as Anderson. While this trade, as listed doesn't work, making it work would be a piece of cake:

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HOU just needs to send out an additional $688K and they have something like 8 guys making the league min of $1.3 million, six of them on non-guaranteed contracts. Give BRK their pick of any one, or two of those guys and it works under the CBA.

It gives HOU what they want (Carmelo), gives NYK what they want (Melo gone + Harkless), gives us three solid players in return, including Ariza who replaces Harkless in the starting line up, and lets us dump two of our three worst contracts. And even BRK FINALLY gets their SG after multipple failed attempts to land one as an RFA via an offer sheet.

Sprinkle in a few future draft picks here and there and get it done.

BNM
 
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