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Harkless is who the Knicks have wanted from the beginning and they have put pressure on HOU to make it work so that is who they get if the Rockets want 'Melo. No one really wants Anderson out of the deal but for Portland, the cost of getting rid of some of the other contracts was Harkless if that is the way it goes down. Olshey having to pay for last summer's spending.
 
SwissBlazer said:
Well. Technically Lillard is from 90. So Anderson (88) is closer to Dame's timeline than Harkless (93). Not that I would agree with this trade. But it isn't contradictory with the timeline theory.
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Not listening to you. Your buddy Thabo signed in Utah; you failed us all.
 
BTW, a little tidbit that I think most of us have forgotten:

larry coon said:
In a three (or more) team trade, each team must "touch" at least two other teams in the trade. To qualify as a touch, at least one of the following must be sent (in either direction)

An active player contract
At least $750,000 cash
A future pick that will actually be conveyed (for example, a team can't meet the touching requirement by sending a top-55 protected pick, that switches to $100,000 cash if it falls within the top 55)
The draft rights to an actual NBA prospect (same description as above
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For example, a three-team trade in which Team A exchanges players with both Team B and Team C, but Teams B and C do not exchange assets, is illegal. However, the above trade is legal if Team B sends Team C an unprotected draft pick or Team C sends Team B one.
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If this 4-team deal is ever consummated, there will probably need to be more transactions involved (picks, draft rights, cash) than what we're suggesting in order to satisfy the "touching" rule.
 
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Gronk Brady said:
Harkless is what he is... can be an exciting player but just doesn't have the passion to become great. Ryan Anderson makes Blazers a top shooting team in NBA and opens the paint for Nurkic and CJ/Dame... Anderson takes Blazers to next level... Mo will never be more than a role player
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People who say shit like this are just trying to talk themselves into making themselves okay with this trade when realistically it's just a load of crap.

dviss1 said:
Last season Mo averaged the most MPG in his career. He had career bests in:

PPG
RPG
FG%
EFG%
FGA
FGM

With the addition of Nurk he was shooting 3s at a 44% clip. Small sample size but still. And he is the BEST on the team at cutting to the basket and finishing. We lose him, we lost that.
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Since so many of you dont want to lose Harkless, and neither do I if we dont have to. I'd be curious to know how many NBA GM's would prefer Harkless over Anderson.
 
I wonder if Neil not wanting to include Harkless is holding up this trade from happening.
 
noknobs said:
Anderson's overall FG% is skewed because such a high percentage of them are 3 point attempts. He was over 40% from 3.

His effective FG% (eFG%) was 55% last year (a mark Dirk has never reached), which puts him in the top 30 or so in the league and he was top 10 in 3's made per game.

You can knock him for some things but not shooting.
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Shooting in the playoffs has been a major issue with Anderson, and his one dimensionality is extra concerning at his salary. The fact that Anderson is such an awful finisher and inside player at 6'10 doesn't give him a pass. I don't want to watch a guy whose literal only skill is hitting threes and can't even do that reliably when it matters the most (even on the most perimeter-centric offense in the league!)
 
Five Second Violation said:
Shooting in the playoffs has been a major issue with Anderson, and his one dimensionality is extra concerning at his salary. The fact that Anderson is such an awful finisher and inside player at 6'10 doesn't give him a pass. I don't want to watch a guy whose literal only skill is hitting threes and can't even do that reliably when it matters the most (even on the most perimeter-centric offense in the league!)
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Shooting threes is literally not his only skill. If you're going to shit on a guy, fine, but at least make sure you know what you're talking about.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Pizza for breakfast is delicious

Houston, NY, Chicago, Phoenix

He delivers to none if those teams. Just what he's hearing
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if that is true, give him a tip.
 
Scalma said:
Shooting threes is literally not his only skill. If you're going to shit on a guy, fine, but at least make sure you know what you're talking about.
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He can shoot and rebound. That's it. But don't act like he didn't look like shit in the playoffs.

In The Pringles Man's system...

We need 2 way players.
 
Scalma said:
Shooting threes is literally not his only skill. If you're going to shit on a guy, fine, but at least make sure you know what you're talking about.
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Then tell me, what else does he offer? His rebounding has trailed off too, to the point where his TRB% last year was 8.5%. For a PF, that is not good.

Aminu by comparison, who is generally a bit undersized at the 4, managed 14.1% last year.
 
Chris Paul is really good friends with Ariza. He was part of the reason CP wanted to come to HOU in the first place. Doubt they trade him, but you never know with Morey.
 
Five Second Violation said:
Then tell me, what else does he offer? His rebounding has trailed off too, to the point where his TRB% last year was 8.5%. For a PF, that is not good.

Aminu by comparison, who is generally a bit undersized at the 4, managed 14.1% last year.
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He can post up something Stotts would definitely utilize
 
Five Second Violation said:
Then tell me, what else does he offer? His rebounding has trailed off too, to the point where his TRB% last year was 8.5%. For a PF, that is not good.

Aminu by comparison, who is generally a bit undersized at the 4, managed 14.1% last year.
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Yeah but it kind of changes with how players are used by their team. I mean we depend on Harkless for rebounding as a starter, and he had the exact same TRB% at 8.5. I get that one is a SF and one is a PF but in today's positionless NBA....... does it really matter?
 
I don't know if it just Houston system that made Anderson go down on his rebounds due to every other place he average right 8 boards a night or it is him declining as player. Maybe his injuries catching up to him I don't know. But with the wide open game Houston plays and the lack of defense they play I am getting to believe it the system.
 
I'm getting the sense the Blazers aren't part of the deal when it gets done.

That likely means it is getting done :)

It seems like Mo knows he's going to NY. There's that.
 
Denny Crane said:
I'm getting the sense the Blazers aren't part of the deal when it gets done.

That likely means it is getting done :)

It seems like Mo knows he's going to NY. There's that.
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I'm starting to think Mo to NY might have nothing to do with Ryan Anderson after all..if Neil turns Mo into Eric Gordon, I'll be happy
 
I'm a little surprised by the sheer Harkless love by some on this forum, but I would also be pretty unhappy if he were dealt with Ryan Anderson as the main piece coming back. Harkless isn't amazing IMO but he's a solid two-way player. A roughly average defender and shooter--until we get better 3&D guys, we need players like Harkless around Lillard and McCollum. What we don't need is another guy who's awful on defense and attached to a terrible contract, like Ryan Anderson. If Portland were dumping their own bad contracts, like Crabbe and/or Turner, that would be one thing--but Leonard isn't a large enough bad deal to be worth taking on Anderson and sending one of our few good contracts and decent two-way players seems counterproductive.

Now if, as some speculate, the Portland net is Ego (Eric Gordon) and Ariza, I'd be pretty satisfied with that. Ariza is a better defensive, but older, version of Harkless and Gordon is a nice bench scorer. But Houston would have to be incredibly dumb to trade two useful players for Anthony--they'd become a worse team. But I guess their Q-rating would go up.
 
riverman said:
I'm starting to think Mo to NY might have nothing to do with Ryan Anderson after all..if Neil turns Mo into Eric Gordon, I'll be happy
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Eric Gordon hates Neil fwiw.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...eans-hornets-eric-gordon-is-he-happy/1902665/

"You can say one thing and do another, but at the end of the day I don't get into it. With the things that I've been in with GMs, where I had one GM (former Clippers GM Neil Olshey, who now is in Portland) say that you'll never get traded and the next thing you know that ends up happening a few days later."
 
Denny where do you get the, "Mo knows he is going to NY" statement? I had not seen that.....
 
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