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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

  • Yes

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  • Not No but Hell No

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Schilly said:
But here's the simplest way to think about it. Is he better than any of the players heading out? Absolutely.
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Debatable. Compare the advanced stats between Melo and Mo last year. What is the basis for the claim that Melo was better? Is it all situation? Do we think that Dame/CJ elevate Mo, while the toxic situation in NY depresses Melo's performance, and that if they were switched, Melo would actually be a more positive impact on this team than Mo was?

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Schilly said:
Yeah he has declined a little, last years was down 2.6pts, 0.7reb, and 0.2ast from his career numbers, yeah not enough to complain about.
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The thing to complain about is his scoring efficiency. For a guy who's main strength is scoring, he's an extremely inefficient scorer.

But here's the simplest way to think about it. Is he better than any of the players heading out? Absolutely. Does he shorten our financial obligations? Absolutely. And he does so without affecting our core at all.
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That's a good argument for the case that Anthony won't hurt the team. It's not a particularly compelling argument that Anthony makes a huge difference. As PtldPlatypus noted, it's not clear that Anthony is much better than Harkless, especially when you take defense into account and take names out of the equation.

If you are bitching about preferring Kevin Love you might want to leave the "no defense" by Anthony argument at the door.
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Both are poor defensive players, but Love is a much better rebounder and significantly more efficient scorer. I'd much, much rather have Love than Anthony at this stage of their careers.

This is a no brainer, it hands down makes the Blazers a top 4 team in the league.
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Only if they were a top-four team already. In no way do I think Anthony makes them a far better team. At best, he'd be a marginal improvement. I wouldn't mind an Anthony acquisition since it reduces Portland's long-term salary burden without getting worse, but the idea that he's still a superstar, or even a star (in terms of performance, not marketing) is not reality in my opinion.
 
Melo would be a huge upgrade at SF for us. Fits in at PF, too.

Is he enough, added to our core, to compete for a championship? Dubious.

I think NO would consider other options, if available. Like the offer he made for PG.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Looking at it as a whole with a version that doesn't involve us giving up Collins certainly makes things look very lopsided in our favor (and that's with including Vonleh to NY instead of Davis).

So, what are the changes that would be necessary in order to make this actually look even for all involved?

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See now this I can get behind. Probably require a 1st which im ok with
 
Natebishop3 said:
"Right now"

So he's basically clinging to the hope that NY will cave, but I think the Knicks are willing to stand firm on this one. They're not going to take back a shitty contract on an older player just to appease Melo.
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It's probably going to come down to whether he's okay wasting one of the few remaining years he has left not making the playoffs in New York, or at least making the playoffs here and maybe even winning a series. We're going to learn a lot about this guy with what he decides.
 
santeesioux said:
It's probably going to come down to whether he's okay wasting one of the few remaining years he has left not making the playoffs in New York, or at least making the playoffs here and maybe even winning a series. We're going to learn a lot about this guy with what he decides.
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He only has one year left on his deal, so I think it's very likely this game of chicken could last the remainder of the year. I guess we'll see.
 
The Knicks must convince Melo that Houston will not happen.

This could take time.

Will the Rockets have enough cap space next summer to sign another star?
 
Natebishop3 said:
So this is their one chance to acquire a third star.
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Morey could probably move stuff around eventually. A few years ago they almost got Chris Bosh and people were saying the same thing.
 
B-Roy said:
Morey could probably move stuff around eventually. A few years ago they almost got Chris Bosh and people were saying the same thing.
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Back then they had max cap space if they renounced Parsons, which they did. They didn't really move anything around in a meaningful way. They tried to game the Parsons thing, which blew up in their faces, but they didn't have to find buyers for bad contracts the way they'd have to do now.

That's not to say it's impossible, but it'll be extremely hard.
 
B-Roy said:
Morey could probably move stuff around eventually. A few years ago they almost got Chris Bosh and people were saying the same thing.
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Maybe, but their roster is pretty weak as it is. Not sure how much they could sacrifice to clear space. Nobody is taking Anderson.
 
Minstrel said:
Back then they had max cap space if they renounced Parsons, which they did. They didn't really move anything around in a meaningful way. They tried to game the Parsons thing, which blew up in their faces, but they didn't have to find buyers for bad contracts the way they'd have to do now.

That's not to say it's impossible, but it'll be extremely hard.
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Probably. But then again no one two years ago thought the Warriors could feasibly run a team with 4 max contracts. *shrug*
 
yuyuza1 said:
This is just a regurgitation of what Woj said yesterday. Doesn't reference anything new. A By Ben Golliver special
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That's what I figured.

Still, nobody has said that he wouldn't accept any trade to Portland ever. Just..... not right now.
 
I saw woj on the jump when he talked about Carmelo. What I took away from it was Carmelo wasn't thinking about expanding his list of teams yet, because up until now, he was under the impression he was going to Houston. I didn't take it as "he doesn't want to go to Portland." Just that it hasn't been put on the table yet.
 
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