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Is she now claiming she ate the dog?!?

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SlyPokerDog said:
Is she now claiming she ate the dog?!?

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The dumb shit just keeps digging the hole deeper. From her farmers background, I can (sorta) get the cold blooded idea of why she did it (without agreeing with it). What I can't get past is her total lack of judgment in sharing a 20 year old story she HAD to know wasn't gonna fly with at least half the country. That is not good leadership or common sense. But then, neither is the rest of her track record........
 
To prove to Trump she is vicious and can destroy anyone inferior.
 
Oil and gas industry currently enjoying record profits. Nonetheless, Trump asked them to donate $1 billion to his campaign. In return he pledged to end all clean energy programs, all environmental regulations and all support for electric vehicles.
 
crandc said:
Oil and gas industry currently enjoying record profits. Nonetheless, Trump asked them to donate $1 billion to his campaign. In return he pledged to end all clean energy programs, all environmental regulations and all support for electric vehicles.
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Same meeting...

Part of the meeting dwelled on migration, and Mr. Trump declared he wanted separate divisions of Ultimate Fighting Championship fighters: one designated for immigrants who came across the border illegally, and the other for “Americans.”​
 
crandc said:
Drop bombs on unarmed Mar-A-Lago.
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FIFY

I mean, according to Trump, the president can't be prosecuted for crimes while in office.

Somehow, I doubt that my social media will allow me to serve on a Trump trial.
 
Oil company executives are busy writing executive orders for Trump to issue to end environmental gains.

Also, late in Project 2025 is a plan for mass executions. It calls for immediate execution of all federal death row prisoners, appeals be damned, and massive expansion of federal death penalty.

They also plan to rename Department of Health and Human Services Department of Life. It will focus primarily on forcing women and pubescent girls to give birth. Because they are so pro life. Until birth.
 
At his New Jersey rally yesterday Trump praised "the late great Hannibal Lecter" as a "wonderful man", referred to former president Jimmy Connnors, mixed up China and Taiwan, talked about ships circling Beijing, which is landlocked, and falsely claimed a bigger crowd than Springsteen.
 
crandc said:
At his New Jersey rally yesterday Trump praised "the late great Hannibal Lecter" as a "wonderful man", referred to former president Jimmy Connnors, mixed up China and Taiwan, talked about ships circling Beijing, which is landlocked, and falsely claimed a bigger crowd than Springsteen.
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The man is a walking Nigerian Prince scam. All the errors ensure his followers are the kind who don’t know better
 
So if Trump wins, where did it go wrong? Seriously.
 
Hoopguru said:
So if Trump wins, where did it go wrong? Seriously.
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Lincoln, for allowing slavery as part of a prison sentence. Every president after him for not ending that barbaric practice.

Nixon for starting the war on drugs to jail hippies and black people (turning them into ready slaves). Reagan for making people hate the government, for union busting, cutting taxes on the super wealthy, expanding the war on drugs while using the FBI to put crack in black neighborhoods, and courting the moral majority. Bush, Clinton, and Bush stoking fear of immigrants and people of color in general and goosing the economy through pure consumerism.

Racism fuels the current populism, but the driver of the populism is a stagnant minimum wage, decaying infrastructure, and a growing disconnect between the economy and the quality of life for US residents. Our standard of living has been going down steadily for decades, and the government policy has been focused solely on making sure the dollar is still the de facto currency, which means they threw us in the fire to burn as fuel. No money for education, no money for social security or social services. Running the country like a business. Using the threat of homelessness and the cruelty of how the homeless are treated to coerce people into working more for less.

All of this is bad policy that leads to suffering and dissatisfaction, making the populace desperate and easy to manipulate. Corporations love desperate employees, and so do politicians.

UBI would have ended that really quick but businesses wouldn’t be able to lowball candidates so we can’t have that.

(I’m trying really hard not to just say “it’s capitalism lol” because I know it’s not useful — I do think a socialist policy would help morale enough that maybe people wouldn’t be so desperate to find a scapegoat for their sadness and anxiety)
 
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Everything Beagle said:
Lincoln, for allowing slavery as part of a prison sentence. Every president after him for not ending that barbaric practice.

Nixon for starting the war on drugs to jail hippies and black people (Turing them into ready slaves). Reagan for making people hate the government, for union busting, cutting taxes on the super wealthy, expanding the war on drugs while using the FBI to put crack in black neighborhoods, and courting the moral majority. Bush, Clinton, and Bush stoking fear of immigrants and people of color in general and goosing the economy through pure consumerism.

Racism fuels the current populism, but the driver of the populism is a stagnant minimum wage, decaying infrastructure, and a growing disconnect between the economy and the quality of life for US residents. Our standard of living has been going down steadily for decades, and the government policy has been focused solely on making sure the dollar is still the de facto currency, which means they threw us in the fire to burn as fuel. No money for education, no money for social security or social services. Running the country like a business. Using the threat of homelessness and the cruelty of how the homeless are treated to coerce people into working more for less.

All of this is bad policy that leads to suffering and dissatisfaction, making the populace desperate and easy to manipulate. Corporations love desperate employees, and so do politicians.

UBI would have ended that really quick but businesses wouldn’t be able to lowball candidates so we can’t have that.

(I’m trying really hard not to just say “it’s capitalism lol” because I know it’s not useful — I do think a socialist policy would help morale enough that maybe people wouldn’t be so desperate to find a scapegoat for their sadness and anxiety)
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Im for a good mix/balance. Social programs are necessary and I agree that a UBI would be helpful. Im not against a capitalistic approach offset with means of assisting people.
 
Hoopguru said:
Im for a good mix/balance. Social programs are necessary and I agree that a UBI would be helpful. Im not against a capitalistic approach offset with means of assisting people.
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As long as life necessities aren’t placed in the hands of corporations because they’ve proven themselves unworthy of the responsibility. (Also, no prison sentences for non-violent crimes might be nice as a start towards a rehabilitative approach to justice)
 
Everything Beagle said:
As long as life necessities aren’t placed in the hands of corporations because they’ve proven themselves unworthy of the responsibility. (Also, no prison sentences for non-violent crimes might be nice as a start towards a rehabilitative approach to justice)
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This all sounds good. But what do you do for the Madoffs, Enrons, etc of the world?

Gotta still be prison sentences, right? Or for ripping off charities and stuff... That's where I get hung up on the "no prison sentences except for violence"
 
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Phatguysrule said:
This all sounds good. But what do you do for the Madoffs, Enrons, etc of the world?

Gotta still be prison sentences, right? Or for ripping off charities and stuff... That's where I get hung up on the "no prison sentences except for violence"
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I’m not a criminal justice lawyer, and I expect every case to be judged uniquely, but in the spirit of offering different options:

Options might include setting them up with a job in a soup kitchen or similar charity with a case worker to monitor their progress, probably some form of house arrest and UBI for a certain amount of time, a shit ton of therapy with heroic doses of psilocybin to give them opportunities to gain context and empathy for those they swindled, and change their life path. Job placement after the sentence with a focus on preventing fraud. There are options, even if these might not sound perfect.

I feel like a lot of the resistance to rehabilitative justice is worry that it won’t be perfect right off the bat but prison is not a good solution, and most countries have moved beyond the need for a massive prison complex. There will be growing pains but if we commit to it, we can do it. Americans are not worse than any other humans.
 
Everything Beagle said:
I’m not a criminal justice lawyer, and I expect every case to be judged uniquely, but in the spirit of offering different options:

Options might include setting them up with a job in a soup kitchen or similar charity with a case worker to monitor their progress, probably some form of house arrest and UBI for a certain amount of time, a shit ton of therapy with heroic doses of psilocybin to give them opportunities to gain context and empathy for those they swindled, and change their life path. Job placement after the sentence with a focus on preventing fraud. There are options, even if these might not sound perfect.

I feel like a lot of the resistance to rehabilitative justice is worry that it won’t be perfect right off the bat but prison is not a good solution, and most countries have moved beyond the need for a massive prison complex. There will be growing pains but if we commit to it, we can do it. Americans are not worse than any other humans.
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If it prevents the corruption I'm all for it. I'm just not aware how well that works or what other countries do to these kinds of criminals. I really just don't know.
 
That huge Trump rally in New Jersey with 80,000 to 100,000 people?

Not quite.

Roger Stone used old crowd shots from a Rod Stewart concert.

There were maybe 10,000 people, decent size but hardly rivaling Springsteen.

When challenged Stone did what all Trumpers do, lie and change the subject.
 
Secret Service notified as Trump aide brags about 'causing innocent people to be arrested'

Donald Trump's former White House aide is under fire after a video showed him claiming to distribute fake money to homeless people so that they will be arrested when they spend it.

Johnny McEntee, formerly the White House Presidential Personnel Office under the former president, posted a video on TikTok in which he discusses the purported scheme to "clean up the community."

"So I always keep this fake Hollywood money in my car, so when a homeless person asks for money, and I give them like a $5 bill, I feel good about myself, they feel good," said McEntee, also a senior advisor to Project 2025. "And then when they go to use it, they get arrested, so I'm actually helping to clean up the community and get them off the street."

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-mcentee-secret-service/
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Secret Service notified as Trump aide brags about 'causing innocent people to be arrested'

Donald Trump's former White House aide is under fire after a video showed him claiming to distribute fake money to homeless people so that they will be arrested when they spend it.

Johnny McEntee, formerly the White House Presidential Personnel Office under the former president, posted a video on TikTok in which he discusses the purported scheme to "clean up the community."

"So I always keep this fake Hollywood money in my car, so when a homeless person asks for money, and I give them like a $5 bill, I feel good about myself, they feel good," said McEntee, also a senior advisor to Project 2025. "And then when they go to use it, they get arrested, so I'm actually helping to clean up the community and get them off the street."

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-mcentee-secret-service/
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It looks like they maybe cleaning up the community by getting him off the street.
 
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