Politics "The truth isn't the truth"

[e_blazer]

and how did I "shoot myself in the foot?" Truth is based on evidence, not opinions.

Because you demonstrated that both versions of "truth" are true depending upon the lens that you look at the question through.

Another example that you hear said frequently about the United States, "Go ahead (and do whatever). It's a free country."

How are you looking at the term "free country"? Constitutionally or as practiced at varying points in our history? What's true in one context may be a total lie in another.

 

[CupWizier]

Because you demonstrated that both versions of "truth" are true depending upon the lens that you look at the question through.

Another example that you hear said frequently about the United States, "Go ahead (and do whatever). It's a free country."

How are you looking at the term "free country"? Constitutionally or as practiced at varying points in our history? What's true in one context may be a total lie in another.

The fact that he was found guilty clearly demonstrates that he LIED. No shooting in the foot. I was clearly demonstrating how one can try and spin things as truth where in fact it was a lie. I didn't think that should need explaining. As for your free country analogy, that's why there are laws and regulations. Do you actually think a criminal can go into court for a crime he commited and claim it's a free country and should be allowed to do what he wants?

The truth is the truth and a lie is a lie. Spinning it any other way is simply wrong.

 

[e_blazer]

The fact that he was found guilty clearly demonstrates that he LIED. No shooting in the foot. I was clearly demonstrating how one can try and spin things as truth where in fact it was a lie. I didn't think that should need explaining. As for your free country analogy, that's why there are laws and regulations. Do you actually think a criminal can go into court for a crime he commited and claim it's a free country and should be allowed to do what he wants?

The truth is the truth and a lie is a lie. Spinning it any other way is simply wrong.

 

[e_blazer]

 

[CupWizier]

and those are all lies. You are really working way to hard to spin this.

 

[e_blazer]

and those are all lies. You are really working way to hard to spin this.

They aren't lies, they're the person's best understanding of the situation given the knowledge that they have. Telling a lie is deliberately saying something that you know is not true, not failing to understand a situation correctly.

Which, by the way, is something that you're guilty of right now. I'm mainly posting these things to mess with you. It's certainly not because I support and am trying to spin whatever BS Rudy was trying to shovel.

 

[CupWizier]

They aren't lies, they're the person's best understanding of the situation given the knowledge that they have. Telling a lie is deliberately saying something that you know is not true, not failing to understand a situation correctly.

Which, by the way, is something that you're guilty of right now. I'm mainly posting these things to mess with you. It's certainly not because I support and am trying to spin whatever BS Rudy was trying to shovel.

lmao!! You aren't messing with me. You are simply using bad analogies. Just because one thinks that a tail of an elephant is a rope or the trunk is a snake doesn't make it true. That's why you failed. For the sake of not dragging this thread down any further, I am done with this part of the discussion. Continue on as you please.

 

[e_blazer]

lmao!! You aren't messing with me. You are simply using bad analogies. Just because one thinks that a tail of an elephant is a rope or the trunk is a snake doesn't make it true. That's why you failed. For the sake of not dragging this thread down any further, I am done with this part of the discussion. Continue on as you please.

It doesn't make it a lie either. I'm just pointing out that saying what you think is true, doesn't necessarily mean it is true. Which, I think, is the point Rudy was trying to make. I might be wrong. Does that make me a liar? It's all so confusing.

Have a good one, Cup.

 

[Chris Craig]

Well we know who is going to play trump in the biopic

 

[Lanny]

Did I say he wasn't a spin doctor? Of course he is, he's a politician. I'm just pointing out that the interviewer clearly cut him off before he made whatever point he was going to make.

He had no point other than gibberish and that show has no time or room for gibberish.

 

[barfo]

It doesn't make it a lie either. I'm just pointing out that saying what you think is true, doesn't necessarily mean it is true. Which, I think, is the point Rudy was trying to make. I might be wrong. Does that make me a liar? It's all so confusing.

Have a good one, Cup.

But thinking something is true and being wrong isn't perjury. Perjury is knowing something is false and testifying to it anyway.

barfo

 

[e_blazer]

But thinking something is true and being wrong isn't perjury. Perjury is knowing something is false and testifying to it anyway.

barfo

I believe that I said the same thing above.

 

[MarAzul]

CNN speaking of truth?

Next.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

It's amazing how the concepts of truth being relative and perception being reality are completely acceptable...until it's suddenly inconvenient.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

It's the rest of the interview that was interesting.

What I find interesting, is that I have seen Rudy on several news programs lately, covering the same material. I guess I understand the point he is attempting to make, that he does not want Trump to get caught up is some ticky tacky misstatement.

Not being a fan of the Feds, The "truth" they are trying to portray, may not in fact be the truth.

 

[MarAzul]

I find it somewhat remarkable that Trump lets this phony investigation continue, More so everyday as the players in on the beginning are all found to be just partisan
hacks out to get the interloper new President.

I am sure the finally act will be when Trump fires Rod Rosenstein. But until then it is remarkable that he lets the charade continue simply for the titillation of the liberals viewers. No way in hell though should legitimize the thing by talking with Mueller. He has nothing and Trump should not give him anything either.
By letting the man write a nothing report is charitable enough.

 

[barfo]

I believe that I said the same thing above.

Sure, you believe that. But is it the truth?

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I find it somewhat remarkable that Trump lets this phony investigation continue, More so everyday as the players in on the beginning are fall found to be just partisan
hacks out to get the interloper new President.

I am sure the finally act will be when Trump fires Rod Rosenstein. But until then it is remarkable that he lets the charade continue simply for the titillation of the liberals viewers. No way in hell though should legitimize the thing by talking with Mueller. He has nothing and Trump should not give him anything either.
By letting the man write a nothing report is charitable enough.

Just because you and Trump say the investigation is phony doesn't make it phony.

 

[barfo]

Just because you and Trump say the investigation is phony doesn't make it phony.

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[PtldPlatypus]

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barfo

How come I can't see this post?

 

[MarAzul]

Just because you and Trump say the investigation is phony doesn't make it phony.

Sure it does dog.

 

[CupWizier]

How come I can't see this post?

cause you have your eyes closed?

 

[e_blazer]

Sure, you believe that. But is it the truth?

barfo

From my perspective it is.

 

[CupWizier]

Sure it does dog.

uh, no it doesn't.

 

[barfo]

How come I can't see this post?

Do you feel a burning sensation?

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Sure it does dog.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

 

[Lanny]

But thinking something is true and being wrong isn't perjury. Perjury is knowing something is false and testifying to it anyway.

barfo

Any kind of lie, including perjury, depends on the liar knowing what he is saying is untrue.

 

[Lanny]

Do you feel a burning sensation?

barfo

LOL, what an idiot.

 

[CupWizier]

Do you feel a burning sensation?

barfo

He knows more about the sun than any astronomer. Staring at the sun during an eclipse can cause harm to the eyes is fake news.