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Lanny said:
When I was in college I bought a Bullova watch with a tuning fork for $100. Paid for it with my VISA. Paid a lot of interest on that VISA for the next year or so. That's the first and last time I ever took out a loan on anything except for my first house and three automobiles. I thought this is stupid paying out money that should be in my pocket.
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Still have the watch?
 
Lanny said:
When I was in college I bought a Bullova watch with a tuning fork for $100. Paid for it with my VISA. Paid a lot of interest on that VISA for the next year or so. That's the first and last time I ever took out a loan on anything except for my first house and three automobiles. I thought this is stupid paying out money that should be in my pocket.
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That makes you a great fiscal conservative!
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Still have the watch?
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Some guy I worked with at Tektronix bought it for $10. That was after crystal controlled watches had come out for less than $10 by Timex. He said he just wanted to collect old watches so he was buying several. Probably that there was a future buck in it in the future.
Hoopguru said:
That makes you a great fiscal conservative!
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I'm a registered Republican who happens to hate Trump and the terrible things he's done to our party. In the mid 60s I persuaded my ultra Liberal father to vote for Barry Goldwater, not because he saw anything good in Goldwater but because of his love for me.
You're right, I am a fiscal Conservative but a social Liberal.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I find it completely morally irresponsible, racist, derogatory, and repugnant to speak about other countries, and other cultures the way you do. I'm sorry but that is WORSE to me than insulting someone personally. It's ego, its greed, its undeserved self-appreciation when US Citizens talk about other countries that way. Yes, many people have it good in the US, but the US isn't without problems. Just like every other country in the world, has it's bad and good.

You're literally spewing hate towards entire countries, it's people, their cultures, what their values are, and that is in my book the absolute core of what is wrong with humanity.
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No hate anywhere in my posts. Mostly pity. Simple and factual observations about slave-owning countries and the cultures that allow themselves to be enslaved. If you are looking for me to embrace their failed way of life it's not going to happen. America is a couple hundred years more evolved than most of these places and that's just the world in real life.

The only hate posted in this forum is hate for America, hate for the Constitution, hate for Freedom, hate for personal responsibility.
 
Hoopguru said:
When I hear of people paying $1800-$2400 month rent, I wonder if they would consider purchasing a home. There must be a creative way to get in one even if they had to pay a higher interest rate.
Investment in real estate is a decent long term investment.
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If you can make a $1500 payment every month you can buy a nice home with a garage on an acre of land in La Pine today with zero down payment.
 
MARIS61 said:
No hate anywhere in my posts. Mostly pity. Simple and factual observations about slave-owning countries and the cultures that allow themselves to be enslaved. If you are looking for me to embrace their failed way of life it's not going to happen. America is a couple hundred years more evolved than most of these places and that's just the world in real life.

The only hate posted in this forum is hate for America, hate for the Constitution, hate for Freedom, hate for personal responsibility.
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Don't forget hate for minorities and women.
 
MARIS61 said:
No hate anywhere in my posts. Mostly pity. Simple and factual observations about slave-owning countries and the cultures that allow themselves to be enslaved. If you are looking for me to embrace their failed way of life it's not going to happen. America is a couple hundred years more evolved than most of these places and that's just the world in real life.

The only hate posted in this forum is hate for America, hate for the Constitution, hate for Freedom, hate for personal responsibility.
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A superiority complex is still racism.
 
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MARIS61 said:
If you can make a $1500 payment every month you can buy a nice home with a garage on an acre of land in La Pine today with zero down payment.
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Does a job come with that? Or are you just creating a retirement community?

barfo
 
MARIS61 said:
If you can make a $1500 payment every month you can buy a nice home with a garage on an acre of land in La Pine today with zero down payment.
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the commute would kill me.
 
barfo said:
I guess if you consider 30 miles a short commute.

barfo
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not bad at all. Have some friends that live near Fall River and he works in Bend. Leisurely driving and cool down period.
 
Don't complain to me about traffic if you all want to commute 60 miles a day to work and back.....that's why it takes so long to drive to Bend from Eugene....it's not the miles..it's the congested traffic on winding mountain roads...we don't need more of that. Live where you work and keep your carbon footprint sensible.
 
MarAzul said:
uh, this is not a truth. Perhaps a guess.
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Let's not be obtuse, of course not every superiority complex is racism. In this case, it is though. On one hand, this particular poster has posted a bunch of stuff saying how all the left in America is "anti-American", he talks about conspiracy theories, and how everyone who doesn't agree with him is basically brain-washed by the media. Then, on the other hand, he comes in and says that all these countries are garbage, and full of garbage people who allow themselves to be subjugated (like they asked for it). He's basically saying well "AMERICA" is superior, oh by the way AMERICANS suck, oh but you know who really sucks the Chinese because they aren't real Americans. It is a superiority complex rooted in racism towards cultures who are different and have different issues than the United States. It's unwarranted propping up (somewhat backhandedly since there is a constant barrage about how 50ish percent of the country are just as bad China (in his views), but it merits when lived out are racist. It leads directly back to my culture is better because of we don't have "those" problems, and thus you guys don't deserve to be treated equally.
 
MarAzul said:
Huh?
No winding mountain roads between Bend and Fall River unless you take the long way around Century Drive!
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I wasn't mentioning Fall River but it does fall under long commutes to work which I mentioned.
I left Portland 20 years ago
 
Shaboid said:
In all fairness, that's just as long timewise as almost any commute in the Portland metro area.
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Yeah, I'd probably kill myself if I had to commute daily from the far reaches of the metro area to downtown, or similar. I can walk to work in 30 minutes myself.

barfo
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Let's not be obtuse, of course not every superiority complex is racism. In this case, it is though. On one hand, this particular poster has posted a bunch of stuff saying how all the left in America is "anti-American", he talks about conspiracy theories, and how everyone who doesn't agree with him is basically brain-washed by the media. Then, on the other hand, he comes in and says that all these countries are garbage, and full of garbage people who allow themselves to be subjugated (like they asked for it). He's basically saying well "AMERICA" is superior, oh by the way AMERICANS suck, oh but you know who really sucks the Chinese because they aren't real Americans. It is a superiority complex rooted in racism towards cultures who are different and have different issues than the United States. It's unwarranted propping up (somewhat backhandedly since there is a constant barrage about how 50ish percent of the country are just as bad China (in his views), but it merits when lived out are racist. It leads directly back to my culture is better because of we don't have "those" problems, and thus you guys don't deserve to be treated equally.
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Wow!
That is quite an expansion of your simple truth.
 
riverman said:
I wasn't mentioning Fall River but it does fall under long commutes to work which I mentioned.
I left Portland 20 years ago
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I left 44 years ago.
It was not a bad commute at all from West Linn to downtown when I first began doing it. Rather a pain in the ass by the time I left.
I can not imagine being subjected to that torture now.
 
MarAzul said:
I left 44 years ago.
It was not a bad commute at all from West Linn to downtown when I first began doing it. Rather a pain in the ass by the time I left.
I can not imagine being subjected to that torture now.
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44 years ago was a pain in the ass commuting from West Linn to downtown Portland? Were you still using the horse and buggy? :dunno:
 
Marzy commuting from West Linn:

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barfo
 
CupWizier said:
44 years ago was a pain in the ass commuting from West Linn to downtown Portland? Were you still using the horse and buggy? :dunno:
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Yeah, I'm calling bogus on that one. It wasn't that bad 20 years ago, it wouldn't have been that bad 40+ years ago. Hell, in 1977 there was about 300K less people in Portland, let alone the rest of the suburbs.
 
barfo said:
Yeah, I'd probably kill myself if I had to commute daily from the far reaches of the metro area to downtown, or similar. I can walk to work in 30 minutes myself.

barfo
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You should find a homeless camp closer to the freeway on ramp you beg for money at.
 
julius said:
Yeah, I'm calling bogus on that one. It wasn't that bad 20 years ago, it wouldn't have been that bad 40+ years ago. Hell, in 1977 there was about 300K less people in Portland, let alone the rest of the suburbs.
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I read that and thought: why is he talking about the (fairly recent) year 1977 instead of 42 years ago? Then I figured out that '77 actually was 42 years ago. Holy shit, I've gotten so old.

barfo
 
It wasn't so bad 20 years ago but if I'd stayed, I'd have bought a house in Wilsonville...looked at some...I made the right choice moving to the woods. My commute to work for most of my years up to retiring here in Lane county was about 6miles round trip for one job and 8 for the other.
 
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