Politics "They all look alike."

[julius]

It's arguments like this that go no where. For starters, Byrd was of a totally different generation. Democrats and republican are not the same now as they were 50, 60 and 70 years ago. Byrd also showed great regret for joining.

Let's talk about which party the racists and klans members would be more likely to vote for today.

I don't really care much about what used to be the case, as much as I care about what IS the case. Yeah, Democrats used to be the party of racism/the klan. But what about now (inane comments about democrats being the true bigots/racists and REAL Americans aren't aside)?

Which party overwhelmingly is white? Which party is do racists and bigots gravitate to? Which party has a much more diverse base of followers (and by "diverse" I don't mean poor vs rich, I mean based on ethnic and racial backgrounds)?

So for the home grown terrorist acts (thats what the last two should be classified as), which political party do they support?


That's not to say that Republicans are racist by default, but that by default, racists are almost always republicans....and Republican (and the gop) has sullied itself by getting into bed with these people and not condemning them.

A few of them have, but not enough.

 

[THE HCP]

Was working in Macao, China 2 summers ago and a co worker was robbed at knife point for his watch and wallet. When the police came, we gave them the disruption of the suspect...

-Asian
-Male
-Striaght Black Hair
-5'9"
-160 lbs

It was at this very moment The HCP realized there was NO CHANCE IN HELL they find the culprit.

 

[julius]

Was working in Macao, China 2 summers ago and a co worker was robbed at knife point for his watch and wallet. When the police came, we gave them the disruption of the suspect...

-Asian
-Male
-Striaght Black Hair
-5'9"
-160 lbs

It was at this very moment The HCP realized there was NO CHANCE IN HELL they find the culprit.

Well, looks like JAT is never running for President.

 

[MARIS61]

Whether she runs again or not, the coverage regarding what she said is completely different than if a conservative of similar political clout were to say the same thing even if it was in a joking manner.

For a conservative to say it would be a career ender.

 

[MARIS61]

It is a racist joke, perhaps the most widely known racist joke ever.

Saying that she said it as joke only confirms that she is a racist.

Defending her use of a racist joke only confirms your own racism.

People vote for her specifically because she is a racist.

She’s been publicly making racist statements for over 4 decades, this is nothing new.

 

[MARIS61]

If you're a racist, you're almost certainly a member of the Alt Right. I wonder why that is.

Utter nonsense.

 

[julius]

It is a racist joke, perhaps the most widely known racist joke ever.

Saying that she said it as joke only confirms that she is a racist.

Defending her use of a racist joke only confirms your own racism.

People vote for her specifically because she is a racist.

She’s been publicly making racist statements for over 4 decades, this is nothing new.

Agreed. But everything you said is also true of Trump, and anyone who defends him, or vote for him.

 

[MARIS61]

Yes, Robert Byrd was racist. However, if he was alive today he'd be 101 years old.

What Don Lemon said is arguably true.

barfo

Don Lemon is arguably American media’s most visible racist ever.

Just a worthless POS.

 

[julius]

Don Lemon is arguably American media’s most visible racist ever.

Just a worthless POS.

Really? You're not going to say Al Sharpton?

 

[CupWizier]

People vote for her specifically because she is a racist.

Do you have any proof to support this? What was the ethnic breakdown of who voted for who in 2016?

I eagerly await your response unless you will hide and avoid answering.

 

[Spud147]

Former US Senator and former KKK clan member Robert Byrd - Democrat. It's not to say there aren't racist people on both sides of the isle. It's more about how they are portrayed or given quite the pass. Don Lemon the other day said "white men in this country are the biggest terror threat".
Sarah Jeong of the New York Times tweeted out, "Cancel white people".

I don't see the the reaction towards them that others have received for far less inflammatory comments. It was never about whether it was a joke with Mrs. Clinton as it obviously was. But objective journalism died long ago.

How is Don Lemon's comment racist? He's not saying all white men are terrorists he's saying if a terrorist act is committed in this country it's most likely going to be perpetrated by a white man - which is absolutely true. If you look at statistics for mass killings at schools, restaurants, churchs, synagogues, theaters, grocery stores, Las Vegas, et al. and the recent pipe bomb plot it's all white men. Yes there are attacks committed by women and non-white men (such as the Boston Marathon and San Bernardino) but they're pretty few and far between.

 

[CupWizier]

How is Don Lemon's comment racist? He's not saying all white men are terrorists he's saying if a terrorist act is committed in this country it's most likely going to be perpetrated by a white man - which is absolutely true. If you look at statistics for mass killings at schools, restaurants, churchs, synagogues, theaters, grocery stores, Las Vegas, et al. and the recent pipe bomb plot it's all white men. Yes there are attacks committed by women and non-white men (such as the Boston Marathon and San Bernardino) but they're pretty few and far between.

But you are relying on real facts. Some in this forum prefer alternative facts, lol.

 

[barfo]

Don Trump is definitely America’s most visible racist ever.

Just a worthless POS.

FTFY.

barfo

 

[dviss1]

I wasn't speaking ill of him I just I mentioned he was the one that convinced John to gibe a voice to MLK and part of it was for political gain fro votes from the southern states. And for Ted, well he's should have gone to jail for leaving that gal in the water. But thats the entitlement from an elitist. You or I, we'd go to jail if we left that scene.

AFTER Chappaquiddick Kennedy helped pass the civil rights act.

Let's not let a dead prostitute (that y'all only gave a shit about because Ted's a Dem) get in the way of all the good he did.

My son has healthcare and I can vote in the comfort of my own home because of Ted Kennedy.home

Conservatives don't even want black people to vote.

 

[dviss1]

Former US Senator and former KKK clan member Robert Byrd - Democrat. It's not to say there aren't racist people on both sides of the isle. It's more about how they are portrayed or given quite the pass. Don Lemon the other day said "white men in this country are the biggest terror threat".
Sarah Jeong of the New York Times tweeted out, "Cancel white people".

I don't see the the reaction towards them that others have received for far less inflammatory comments. It was never about whether it was a joke with Mrs. Clinton as it obviously was. But objective journalism died long ago.

Shame on you...

It's true Byrd was in the KKK. BUT he had his epiphany A LONG TIME ago. His story is one of REDEMPTION not racism...

Calling him racist is SHAMEFUL, you should be ashamed for posting this bullshit and YES I'm calling you out on it.

He's the guy who let's is know what true racists are able to change... I thought you were a high info guy...

 

[dviss1]

And it's FUCKING TRUE.

White males ARE this countries biggest terror threat.

But y'all only label brown people as terrorists.

The Vegas shooter was a fucking terrorist.

 

[dviss1]

Former US Senator and former KKK clan member Robert Byrd - Democrat. It's not to say there aren't racist people on both sides of the isle. It's more about how they are portrayed or given quite the pass. Don Lemon the other day said "white men in this country are the biggest terror threat".
Sarah Jeong of the New York Times tweeted out, "Cancel white people".

I don't see the the reaction towards them that others have received for far less inflammatory comments. It was never about whether it was a joke with Mrs. Clinton as it obviously was. But objective journalism died long ago.

Robert Byrd: A story of change and redemption

"End of an era" is an overused trope, but in this case it's appropriate: The last of the old Southern Democrats is gone.

Sen. Robert Byrd had long since repented, of course. The West Virginian, who died Monday at 92, deeply regretted his segregationist past, which included a year as a member of the Ku Klux Klan and at least several more years as a Klan sympathizer. He eventually became a passionate advocate for civil rights, and he was one of the most vocal supporters of legislation making the birthday of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. a national holiday.

But that was after Byrd's personal enlightenment. Amid what is sure to be a flood of heartfelt encomiums to his lifetime of public service, it is important to note that his is a story of change and redemption -- and that Byrd and his party had a shameful past to overcome.

In Byrd's first campaign for the House in 1952, his opponent released a letter that Byrd had written to the Klan's imperial wizard in 1946. The date is important because Byrd claimed to have cut ties with the racist organization -- today we would call it a terrorist group -- in 1943. "The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia," Byrd wrote.

This was in the days when the South was a solid Democratic stronghold -- and when the default position of Southern Democrats was to advocate separation of the races. In 1964, Byrd joined other members of his party, led by Richard Russell of Georgia, in trying to kill the Civil Rights Act. Back then, would-be obstructionists were required to stage a filibuster rather than just threaten one. Byrd held the Senate floor for 14 hours in an effort that was ultimately as futile as Pickett's Charge.

"Men are not created equal today, and they were not created equal in 1776, when the Declaration of Independence was written," Byrd declaimed during his peroration. "Men and races of men differ in appearance, ways, physical power, mental capacity, creativity and vision."

Byrd also opposed the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and most of Johnson's anti-poverty programs, saying that "we can take the people out of the slums, but we cannot take the slums out of the people."

From 1961 to 1969, Byrd chaired a Senate subcommittee that had vast authority over local affairs in the District of Columbia. He supported more federal funding for local services but also angered local activists with a high-profile crusade to remove ineligible recipients from the welfare rolls.

"His tongue was smoother than butter," recalled the Rev. Walter E. Fauntroy, the District's first nonvoting representative in Congress, "but war was in his heart." That martial spirit was evident in 1968 when riots broke out after King's assassination. "If it requires the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, we should put the troublemakers in their places," Byrd said. Well, he did have a way with words.

Byrd's trajectory -- from bitter segregationist to beloved dean of the Senate -- is actually a hopeful, quintessentially American story. He was a man of his age, and his views on race closely tracked the views of the constituents he so loyally represented. There was a time when separate-but-unequal was a mainstream position among whites in the South, and the fact that Byrd's early words and deeds are so shocking today is a testament to how far the nation has come.

Byrd's career is also a reminder that no political party has a monopoly on wisdom or virtue. It was Southern Democrats who tried desperately to deny equal rights to African Americans, and it was the votes of Northern Republicans that helped pass the landmark legislation. Southern whites switched parties and made the South a GOP bastion. This has been the situation for decades now -- but it won't last forever.

Last week, in my home state of South Carolina, an African American named Tim Scott defeated Strom Thurmond's son in the Republican primary for a seat in the House. The GOP nomination for governor was won by Nikki Haley, who is of Indian descent and was called a "raghead" by one of her good ol' boy critics. In Alabama, Rep. Artur Davis failed to become the first African American to win the Democratic nomination for governor -- largely because he took the African American vote for granted.

Robert Byrd's amazing career reminds us that times really do change. And so do people.

 

[Hobbesarable]

AFTER Chappaquiddick Kennedy helped pass the civil rights act.

Let's not let a dead prostitute (that y'all only gave a shit about because Ted's a Dem) get in the way of all the good he did.

My son has healthcare and I can vote in the comfort of my own home because of Ted Kennedy.home

Conservatives don't even want black people to vote.

Unfortunately, he was one of the authors of the worst Federal Education law, "No Child Left Behind Act."

However, as you mentioned, he did some great things as a Senator.

 

[Lanny]

Former US Senator and former KKK clan member Robert Byrd - Democrat. It's not to say there aren't racist people on both sides of the isle. It's more about how they are portrayed or given quite the pass. Don Lemon the other day said "white men in this country are the biggest terror threat".
Sarah Jeong of the New York Times tweeted out, "Cancel white people".

I don't see the the reaction towards them that others have received for far less inflammatory comments. It was never about whether it was a joke with Mrs. Clinton as it obviously was. But objective journalism died long ago.

When did Byrd die?
By the way, my family and I once visited the Senate about ten years ago. Shortly after we got off the underground train connecting the Senate building we visited first to the Senate, Byrd walked right in the middle of the five of us. He totally ignored us and started talking loudly to someone several feet behind us. At first, I was enthralled that I got to see a United States Senator so close that I almost bumped him, but later I reflected on it and thought he was quite rude to us. He could have at least said "excuse me".

Byrd called joining the KKK "the greatest mistake I ever made."
Byrd also said in 2005, "I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times ... and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened."

 

[Hoopguru]

And it's FUCKING TRUE.

White males ARE this countries biggest terror threat.

But y'all only label brown people as terrorists.

The Vegas shooter was a fucking terrorist.

D
Are you really saying because Im white that Im part of your category of racist?

AFTER Chappaquiddick Kennedy helped pass the civil rights act.

Let's not let a dead prostitute (that y'all only gave a shit about because Ted's a Dem) get in the way of all the good he did.

My son has healthcare and I can vote in the comfort of my own home because of Ted Kennedy.home

Conservatives don't even want black people to vote.

I was a democrat and so was my whole family and we all though Kennedy was wrong to do what he did.
By making a statement that conservatives don't want black people to vote is a pretty broad stroke. I have plenty of conservative friends plus myself as a moderate conservative that don't believe that way. Im sorry you do.

 

[Lanny]

D
Are you really saying because Im white that Im part of your category of racist?


I was a democrat and so was my whole family and we all though Kennedy was wrong to do what he did.
By making a statement that conservatives don't want black people to vote is a pretty broad stroke. I have plenty of conservative friends plus myself as a moderate conservative that don't believe that way. Im sorry you do.

I cheer when anyone votes, even the Alt Right.
So, I say to all of you out there that haven't yet voted. GET OUT THERE AND VOTE, DAMMIT.

 

[andalusian]

Worth every penny.
By the way, to this day I have an admiration for a well constructed mechanical pencil. I would also like to note that I owned three slide rules, one made of metal, one made of bamboo and the third was a circular one made out of heavy paper that I got out of a technical publication. I dare anyone to say I'm not a nerd. I've even made plots on log and semilog paper.

If you made and owned all this things, you are not a nerd, sir, you are a natural philosopher.

 

[Lanny]

D
Are you really saying because Im white that Im part of your category of racist?


I was a democrat and so was my whole family and we all though Kennedy was wrong to do what he did.
By making a statement that conservatives don't want black people to vote is a pretty broad stroke. I have plenty of conservative friends plus myself as a moderate conservative that don't believe that way. Im sorry you do.

There are a preponderance of Righties these days working hard to suppress African American voting.

 

[dviss1]

D
Are you really saying because Im white that Im part of your category of racist?


I was a democrat and so was my whole family and we all though Kennedy was wrong to do what he did.
By making a statement that conservatives don't want black people to vote is a pretty broad stroke. I have plenty of conservative friends plus myself as a moderate conservative that don't believe that way. Im sorry you do.

Who are the ONLY people suppressing the vote? Conservatives.

Now I invite you to listen to the founding father of the Heritage Foundation and the Neocons speak:



Listen, don't get offended if what I say doesn't apply you. When did I call all white people racist?

Now when I say conservatives, I'm talking about the ones in power.

I'm sure @PtldPlatypus is happy that I get to vote.

 

[Lanny]

If you made and owned all this things, you are not a nerd, sir, you are a natural philosopher.

SON

 

[Hoopguru]

Robert Byrd: A story of change and redemption

"End of an era" is an overused trope, but in this case it's appropriate: The last of the old Southern Democrats is gone.

Sen. Robert Byrd had long since repented, of course. The West Virginian, who died Monday at 92, deeply regretted his segregationist past, which included a year as a member of the Ku Klux Klan and at least several more years as a Klan sympathizer. He eventually became a passionate advocate for civil rights, and he was one of the most vocal supporters of legislation making the birthday of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. a national holiday.

But that was after Byrd's personal enlightenment. Amid what is sure to be a flood of heartfelt encomiums to his lifetime of public service, it is important to note that his is a story of change and redemption -- and that Byrd and his party had a shameful past to overcome.

In Byrd's first campaign for the House in 1952, his opponent released a letter that Byrd had written to the Klan's imperial wizard in 1946. The date is important because Byrd claimed to have cut ties with the racist organization -- today we would call it a terrorist group -- in 1943. "The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia," Byrd wrote.

This was in the days when the South was a solid Democratic stronghold -- and when the default position of Southern Democrats was to advocate separation of the races. In 1964, Byrd joined other members of his party, led by Richard Russell of Georgia, in trying to kill the Civil Rights Act. Back then, would-be obstructionists were required to stage a filibuster rather than just threaten one. Byrd held the Senate floor for 14 hours in an effort that was ultimately as futile as Pickett's Charge.

"Men are not created equal today, and they were not created equal in 1776, when the Declaration of Independence was written," Byrd declaimed during his peroration. "Men and races of men differ in appearance, ways, physical power, mental capacity, creativity and vision."

Byrd also opposed the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and most of Johnson's anti-poverty programs, saying that "we can take the people out of the slums, but we cannot take the slums out of the people."

From 1961 to 1969, Byrd chaired a Senate subcommittee that had vast authority over local affairs in the District of Columbia. He supported more federal funding for local services but also angered local activists with a high-profile crusade to remove ineligible recipients from the welfare rolls.

"His tongue was smoother than butter," recalled the Rev. Walter E. Fauntroy, the District's first nonvoting representative in Congress, "but war was in his heart." That martial spirit was evident in 1968 when riots broke out after King's assassination. "If it requires the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, we should put the troublemakers in their places," Byrd said. Well, he did have a way with words.

Byrd's trajectory -- from bitter segregationist to beloved dean of the Senate -- is actually a hopeful, quintessentially American story. He was a man of his age, and his views on race closely tracked the views of the constituents he so loyally represented. There was a time when separate-but-unequal was a mainstream position among whites in the South, and the fact that Byrd's early words and deeds are so shocking today is a testament to how far the nation has come.

Byrd's career is also a reminder that no political party has a monopoly on wisdom or virtue. It was Southern Democrats who tried desperately to deny equal rights to African Americans, and it was the votes of Northern Republicans that helped pass the landmark legislation. Southern whites switched parties and made the South a GOP bastion. This has been the situation for decades now -- but it won't last forever.

Last week, in my home state of South Carolina, an African American named Tim Scott defeated Strom Thurmond's son in the Republican primary for a seat in the House. The GOP nominationm all for redemption for governor was won by Nikki Haley, who is of Indian descent and was called a "raghead" by one of her good ol' boy critics. In Alabama, Rep. Artur Davis failed to become the first African American to win the Democratic nomination for governor -- largely because he took the African American vote for granted.

Robert Byrd's amazing career reminds us that times really do change. And so do people.

I 100% am a believer in redemption and its not a respecter of persons,

I cheer when anyone votes, even the Alt Right.
So, I say to all of you out there that haven't yet voted. GET OUT THERE AND VOTE, DAMMIT.

I have..

 

[Lanny]

If you made and owned all this things, you are not a nerd, sir, you are a natural philosopher.

I worked on technical electronics instruments at Tektronix and nuclear missiles at Boeing. I also built 747s at Boeing.
At Emerson Electric, I worked on a tank killer that used the body of a armored personnel carrier with a turret that housed a laser for targeting enemy armored vehicles for destruction by smart munitions. Since this was before GPS we used a laser ring gyro to position our vehicle very accurately and a laser in the turret using a pulse code modulated laser to guide smart munitions such as the Copperhead artillery shell, wire guided TOW missiles and smart munitions fired by friendly helicopters and war planes.
The best job was at Tektronix where we used an oscilloscope that had a sweep rate faster than the speed of light. http://www.barrytech.com/tektronix/tek7000/tek7104.html

 

[Cippy91]

And it's FUCKING TRUE.

White males ARE this countries biggest terror threat.

But y'all only label brown people as terrorists.

The Vegas shooter was a fucking terrorist.

I am actually very glad you put me on ignore.

It is absolutely insane the line Dviss is able to walk on around here. This dude says some of the most racist shit and all the mods are quiet. Constantly. Anyways, it's fun reading stupid shit and this is no different

 

[Lanny]

I am actually very glad you put me on ignore.

It is absolutely insane the line Dviss is able to walk on around here. This dude says some of the most racist shit and all the mods are quiet. Constantly. Anyways, it's fun reading stupid shit and this is no different

Maybe the mods know something you're not aware of.

 

[Cippy91]

Maybe the mods know something you're not aware of.

Well it's because he is black, that is your honest answer. That's why he can get away with racist tantrums. Welcome to the leftist northwest.