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calvin natt said:
Because i think its quite ridiculous that a dude from Bleacher Report was told by Neil Olshey that he was surprised he didnt want DVP. I think it is crazy that now Neil wants to drive Dame OUT of portland, by demanding a trade, that this will make Neil look GOOD and he will save his job. It sounds like bizarro world in here
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Natebishop3 said:
The only way Neil can safely trade Dame is if he asks for a trade or Dame becomes the bad guy. That would sure seem to be the aim of a lot of these leaks.
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That’s what I think as well. Neil can’t win with Dame, so to save his job he gets Dame to force a trade and then can’t be blamed
 
wizenheimer said:
I don't mind, I've got a thick skin and look good in tin foil

but...I don't really play that close attention and even I knew that Dame had a long-term relationship with Jason Kidd that started in Oakland. I don't know if Kidd was a mentor for Dame or if they were just friends. But if I knew about that relationship, certainly Olshey and the people in the Blazer front office knew. So, why that leak, right now, that they were surprised that Dame mentioned Kidd as a possible coach? Whose ass did that leak cover, and who is left exposed?

further, Kidd went thru the effort to withdraw his name from Portland candidate list. Why would he do that if the Blazer front office had never contacted him or his agent?
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He knew the Dallas job was opening and wanted that more. Also probably had preliminary discussions with Mavs
 
Mediocre Man said:
That’s what I think as well. Neil can’t win with Dame, so to save his job he gets Dame to force a trade and then can’t be blamed
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Also if I have my conspiracy hat on, the last person he’s gonna leak this stuff to is Woj because everyone knows they’re boys.
 
If I’m Billups I march my wife and 3 daughters out with me. All sitting at the same table, and basically say “bring it”
 
julius said:
I'm wondering how they will fix this train wreck.

Or is it a dumpster fire? Not sure which is worse though. A dumpster fire is easier to put out, whereas a train wreck should be larger. Though I've seen people referred to as a "train wreck" but not as a "dumpster fire", so I don't know.

Wait, that made no sense. Am I sure I'm not dreaming this whole shit? I mean, the best player to ever play for the Blazers potentially wants traded, it's 115 degrees....you know, now that I think about it, I must be having a fever fueled hallucination.
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They'll fix it the same way Portland fixed the dumpster fire of riots over the past several months.

Ineptly.
 
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didn't want to create a new thread for this but did anyone else catch the last sentence of Henry Abbott's piece on the billups hire? https://www.truehoop.com/p/shenanigans

Maybe the best news to emerge from all this, from a source who knows Allen: She doesn’t want to do anything that would hurt the value of the team, because one of these days she’s going to sell it.
 
illmatic99 said:
didn't want to create a new thread for this but did anyone else catch the last sentence of Henry Abbott's piece on the billups hire? https://www.truehoop.com/p/shenanigans

Maybe the best news to emerge from all this, from a source who knows Allen: She doesn’t want to do anything that would hurt the value of the team, because one of these days she’s going to sell it.
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I speculated that this was highly likely based on some off-hand comments by @SlyPokerDog lol.

In that case, she's incentivized to keep Dame happy in the short term. The value of the team is going to tank for a bit if we are in full rebuild and no Dame is on the roster.
 
i really hope she does. clearly, she is highly underqualified to be governor. Her selling is truly the only fix to all this. how is it that in almost three years since PA passed, she has yet to give a single media appearance?

I really want someone more engaged and involved. She's letting Neil run wild, and that's good for no one.
 
illmatic99 said:
i really hope she does. clearly, she is highly underqualified to be governor. Her selling is truly the only fix to all this. how is it that in almost three years since PA passed, she has yet to give a single media appearance?

I really want someone more engaged and involved. She's letting Neil run wild, and that's good for no one.
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I don’t want to come off like I’m defending Neil here, but how exactly is she letting Neil “run wild”? And how exactly would that look anyways?
 
B-Roy said:
I don’t want to come off like I’m defending Neil here, but how exactly is she letting Neil “run wild”? And how exactly would that look anyways?
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Yeah it's not really "run wild." It's more like he's pulling a costanza.
 
B-Roy said:
I don’t want to come off like I’m defending Neil here, but how exactly is she letting Neil “run wild”? And how exactly would that look anyways?
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It just feels like Neil has a lot of autonomy and is making unilateral decisions without much accountability. I was all on the Fire Terry bandwagon since last year, but to not accept ANY responsibility for the shortcomings of the roster construction was a terrible look.

And the blowback and the PR disaster of the Billups hire (however warranted or otherwise) is also indicative of it.

If PA were still here, would Neil have a job in Portland this season?
 
B-Roy said:
I speculated that this was highly likely based on some off-hand comments by @SlyPokerDog lol.

In that case, she's incentivized to keep Dame happy in the short term. The value of the team is going to tank for a bit if we are in full rebuild and no Dame is on the roster.
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I want Dame here but right before the Sonics sold they were in a complete rebuild.
 
illmatic99 said:
It just feels like Neil has a lot of autonomy and is making unilateral decisions without much accountability. I was all on the Fire Terry bandwagon since last year, but to not accept ANY responsibility for the shortcomings of the roster construction was a terrible look.

And the blowback and the PR disaster of the Billups hire (however warranted or otherwise) is also indicative of it.

If PA were still here, would Neil have a job in Portland this season?
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I think he would. He’s got a huge contract that he negotiated from that WCF run. I know PA was dead by then, but he probably gets that from PA as well.

Most of the blowback for Neil has come in the last two years, where we can finally evaluate his failures from 14-17. But he’s still got that huge contract for a few more years, so it’s hard to fire him.

hopefully they do though. Weren’t you the one that said McGowan followed an exec hunting firm? Maybe they are looking right now and preparing for inevitable.
 
blazerkor said:
I want Dame here but right before the Sonics sold they were in a complete rebuild.
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Different eras. Look at the value of sports teams and how much they’ve appreciated in the last few years.
 
blazerkor said:
Right, I don't think roster personnel factors very much at all into franchise value.
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Go look at comparisons like the Bucks, or Clippers. Your opinion isn’t backed by the numbers.
 
illmatic99 said:
as in incompetent, or intentionally trying to get fired by doing egregious shit?
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Both.

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Natebishop3 said:
Both.

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I don't think he's ACTIVELY trying to get fired. Rather, I think he's trying desperately to save his job.

Historically, the writing on the wall for GMs that are on the hot seat is when they start making risky, unilateral, short term moves without vision to the future. Like SVG taking on an injured Blake Griffin on a massive deal. Or Morey trading away any player above 6'9 and going all in on small ball, etc.

Kinda feels like this Billups move was of the same ilk.
 
B-Roy said:
Go look at comparisons like the Bucks, or Clippers. Your opinion isn’t backed by the numbers.
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The fuck are we talking about? Those franchises sold for so much for the very reason you just stated that every franchise that sells sets a new high water mark. Look at what the lowly Wolves just sold for. If we traded Dame we'd still have talent. We might actually have younger talent at either the same price or lower.
 
blazerkor said:
I want Dame here but right before the Sonics sold they were in a complete rebuild.
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They had Ray Allen on the team, as a 30 year old, the year before they were sold.
I don't think it changes the valuation of the franchise much, but they weren't in complete tear down rebuild, or they wouldn't have held on to Allen and Lewis.
 
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