This sucker is absolutely dangerous! Shouldn't be allowed to speak to young people!

[SlyPokerDog]

Oh come on Sly!
I am not speculating here, I am stating what happened. She was very well qualified as the Valedictorian of one of the top High Schools in the State, Monta Vista. She had a 4.0 GPA and top scores on all tests.
I am stating what Stanford University said in the rejection letter. Even though you have outstanding qualifications, we regret ... to meet our diversity goals.

"she would have made it in the top 1070? Out of 45,000? "
Fucking A!

Now please don't tell me it did not happen.

58% of Stanford applicants had a 4.0 GPA.

 

[MarAzul]

58% of Stanford applicants had a 4.0 GPA.

I don't doubt it. I did recruiting for the company three different years there. I could just about guess that number.

 

[MarAzul]

58% of Stanford applicants had a 4.0 GPA.

Let us cut the chase here. Are you going to tell me, we (she) did not get this letter from Stanford stating it was to meet diversity goals?

 

[Denny Crane]

Then the 43,000 all get stoned and go to a Bernie Sanders rally.

Nah. The 2000 that get in want someone else to pay their bills.

 

[MarAzul]

Nah. The 2000 that get in want someone else to pay their bills.

Actually, I think most of the ones that get rejected have been done a service. My daughter went to Cal instead and the bill was no where near
the bill for Stanford.

 

[Denny Crane]

Actually, I think most of the ones that get rejected have been done a service. My daughter went to Cal instead and the bill was no where near
the bill for Stanford.

I'm pretty sure the stanford grad gets a bigger paycheck.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Let us cut the chase here. Are you going to tell me, we (she) did not get this letter from Stanford stating it was to meet diversity goals?

No, I don't have access to your daughter's mail.

Here is a link to some Stanford rejection letters, of the 4 that I've read none say anything about race.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en...g..0.11.891.DscpSvCT6Vg#imgrc=HuNScCJM1De76M:

I will state my point again, your daughter wasn't denied admission because of 168 black people, she was denied admission because Stanford for whatever reason thought 905 white people were a better fit.

 

[MarAzul]

she was denied admission because Stanford for whatever reason thought 905 white people were a better fit.

Bull shit Sly, you are being obtuse now and I am quite sure you know it. You do not use the word "diversity" in the reason for rejection when selecting other Caucasians.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I'm pretty sure the stanford grad gets a bigger paycheck.

Maybe. Cal is pretty well known for certain schooling subjects too.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Bull shit Sly, you are being obtuse now and I am quite sure you know it. You do not use the word "diversity" in the reason for rejection when selecting other Caucasians.

Did she ask what kind of diversity they were looking for? Maybe that year they had a flood of applicants from small pacific coastal towns and were looking for more white people from east coast big cities?

 

[MarAzul]

I'm pretty sure the stanford grad gets a bigger paycheck.

Perhaps some do, I worked with two during my working years, well that is all I can think of now. One here in Portland, a woman name Molly Muse, she was rather insufferable and didn't do all that well. She finally quit but I guess she could have been a hit after in her new position.

Then there was a guy at IBM research in the Almaden lab, nothing special there either.

 

[MarAzul]

No, I don't have access to your daughter's mail.

Here is a link to some Stanford rejection letters, of the 4 that I've read none say anything about race.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=940&q=stanford rejection letter&oq=stanford re&gs_l=img.1.0.0l10.2628.5206.0.7013.11.8.0.3.3.0.140.882.3j5.8.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..0.11.891.DscpSvCT6Vg#imgrc=HuNScCJM1De76M:

I will state my point again, your daughter wasn't denied admission because of 168 black people, she was denied admission because Stanford for whatever reason thought 905 white people were a better fit.

The fact is Sly, you are incorrect. She was rejected in 1978 specifically stating the reason why, to meet their diversity goals. Since then due to several discrimination law suites (not all against Stanford) They quit being so explicit even though they continue. They do not see there student enrollment in the same way as state schools. They enroll regional blocks of white kid, more like a bingo draw of qualified applicants.
Then they have ethnic quotas including races, International quotas, each group has it's own qualification parameters.
Stanford can get by with this as can other private schools. They refer to their selection process as, providing a diverse academic environment.

So by the way they do it, Dani did not lose the competition, she just wasn't Lucky in the bingo draw from her regional ethnic bucket. So the system Stanford set up is not fair in the competitive sense, and it is not intended to be. I don't see any reason a private school can not set up their selection process how ever they want to do it. It is fine with me. But they sure as hell said, they rejected her to meet their diversity goals! I don't think they were ever that blunt again after 1978, law suits were filed. However, they still do their selection to meet their diversity goals.

 

[dviss1]

When my daughter was denied enrollment at Stanford for reasons of diversity goals, I thought that was discrimination.
But many thing that is good.

I still call bullshit on this. You've told me that story before.

 

[dviss1]

Let us cut the chase here. Are you going to tell me, we (she) did not get this letter from Stanford stating it was to meet diversity goals?

Pic or it didn't happen.

 

[MarAzul]

Pic or it didn't happen.

Fine. Sly joins you.

I still call bullshit on this. You've told me that story before.

Ha!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Fine. Sly joins you.

I never said it didn't happen.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The fact is Sly, you are incorrect. She was rejected in 1978 specifically stating the reason why, to meet their diversity goals. Since then due to several discrimination law suites (not all against Stanford) They quit being so explicit even though they continue. They do not see there student enrollment in the same way as state schools. They enroll regional blocks of white kid, more like a bingo draw of qualified applicants.
Then they have ethnic quotas including races, International quotas, each group has it's own qualification parameters.
Stanford can get by with this as can other private schools. They refer to their selection process as, providing a diverse academic environment.

So by the way they do it, Dani did not lose the competition, she just wasn't Lucky in the bingo draw from her regional ethnic bucket. So the system Stanford set up is not fair in the competitive sense, and it is not intended to be. I don't see any reason a private school can not set up their selection process how ever they want to do it. It is fine with me. But they sure as hell said, they rejected her to meet their diversity goals! I don't think they were ever that blunt again after 1978, law suits were filed. However, they still do their selection to meet their diversity goals.

I'm sure Stanford would love to hear more about their bingo admissions process.

Lets see if I can make this even more simpler for you, Stanford admited a whole bunch of white kids and a few black kids. You want to blame the few black kids that your daughter wasn't one of the whole bunch of white kids. Not racism.

 

[MarAzul]

Not racism.

I am back down the Multnomah Channel now, tied up at a dock on an Island called Coon Island. Curious name? Anyone have any history on how this Island came to be named?

Sly, you don't even seem to read what I write. I never claimed any racism; discrimination I think, but I also think it is their right if that is the way they want to run the place. I don't blame any black kid for anything. But then I think you knew it, You might even be trolling.

PS, I am telling you and everyone else What Stanford said!! I didn't say it, I am passing it along.

And that will close this issue here.

 

[MARIS61]

I'm sure Stanford would love to hear more about their bingo admissions process.

Lets see if I can make this even more simpler for you, Stanford admited a whole bunch of white kids and a few black kids. You want to blame the few black kids that your daughter wasn't one of the whole bunch of white kids. Not racism.

Stanford admitted a whole bunch of white kids who had to pass certain academic standards/tests and a few black kids who did not have to pass the same standards/tests (too stupid or too lazy??) but simply got admitted based solely on their race. Marazul wants to blame Stanford for turning his daughter down, even though she passed their standards/tests, solely because she wasn't black (and presumably not stupid or lazy enough either).

Absolutely racism, and several colleges have recently lost court cases affirming that it is racism.

 

[barfo]

I am back down the Multnomah Channel now, tied up at a dock on an Island called Coon Island. Curious name? Anyone have any history on how this Island came to be named?

Don't know about that one, but there was also once a different island in the Multnomah Channel named 'Nigger Tom Island'.

In unrelated news, there was once a place in Harney County named Coon Town. It was named after a (white?) guy whose nickname was Coon.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

Don't know about that one, but there was also once a different island in the Multnomah Channel named 'Nigger Tom Island'.

In unrelated news, there was once a place in Harney County named Coon Town. It was named after a (white?) guy whose nickname was Coon.

barfo

I thought the Raccoon was like the Opossum, migrated here or as ODFW says, and invasive species. But I am wrong, the Raccoon is native here,
even though I don't remember seeing them back in my younger days. Perhaps they had been hunted to the point of being rare. Anyway, it is not such a curious name for the Island after all. There are a lot of them here now, maybe the reason for the name.

 

[CupWizier]

It's just the same idiotic shit that they said when they claimed he said people "didn't build it".

They know exactly what he said, and they know exactly why they worded it the way they did. they'd get a reaction out of knuckle draggers, mouth breathers and morons.

AKA maris, marzy and el presidente.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

AKA maris, marzy and el presidente.

Can we please not do this. It's just going to lead to insults.