Three preseason games in - has your opinion changed at all?

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UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
I can't believe how little love Henderson is getting. This is a rock solid player. Consistent too. I'd be curious to see the consensus if he had been able to practice and play. I think too many folks are counting him out way too soon. I'm dying to see what this guy can bring to an already exciting bunch.
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I would like to see how he fits into Stotts system, but he may not get much playing time in the regular rotation with Crabbe playing at such a high level.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
I can't believe how little love Henderson is getting. This is a rock solid player. Consistent too. I'd be curious to see the consensus if he had been able to practice and play. I think too many folks are counting him out way too soon. I'm dying to see what this guy can bring to an already exciting bunch.
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Hey, he might work out. I guess we'll see. He never really struck me as having star potential, so that means he's just an older role player than Crabbe.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Not only will we most likely have a better idea of who we want to keep by that point, but usually some other teams have decided to throw in the towel or dump players. Cousins is actually a good target because the Kings will most likely have combusted by mid season and they will be more open to a trade. Not sure if Hendo/Kaman would be even remotely enough though. To get Cousins it might have to be something more like Vonleh/Hendo/Harkless or something like that.
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Boogie and Paul George are high on my watch list for players that might be moved mid season (that we absolutely SHOULD target). PG moreso.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Boogie and Paul George are high on my watch list for players that might be moved mid season. PG moreso.
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PG would be awesome, but he has also struck me as having an attitude issue.
 
It's just that nobody has seen Henderson to give him any love. I think he actually could do quite well. It looks like he moves very well without the ball. He will get his minutes.
 
I am going to try watch my first preseason game tonight. (If I can find it.) So I will have a better understand of what we have then. Glad to hear that Crabbe us doing well. He's a decent player. A little surprised that CJ has immediately been plugged into backup PG. Want to see if Aminu can shoot the ball. Should be an interesting season on the rebuild.
 
Reep said:
It's just that nobody has seen Henderson to give him any love. I think he actually could do quite well. It looks like he moves very well without the ball. He will get his minutes.
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The biggest issue is that he isn't known as a shooter. Crabbe is a shooter. I think that's why people tend to lean more towards Crabbe.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Not only will we most likely have a better idea of who we want to keep by that point, but usually some other teams have decided to throw in the towel or dump players. Cousins is actually a good target because the Kings will most likely have combusted by mid season and they will be more open to a trade. Not sure if Hendo/Kaman would be even remotely enough though. To get Cousins it might have to be something more like Vonleh/Hendo/Harkless or something like that.
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When consolidating, it's assumed some of our rotation players are going out in the process. Even if all our rotation guys pan out, it's unlikely we're keeping them all. Moving a few of them along with Hendo/Kaman for salary filler would be a good idea depending on who you could get back.

I mean, I'd drop the entire team minus Dame to get Paul George.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The biggest issue is that he isn't known as a shooter. Crabbe is a shooter. I think that's why people tend to lean more towards Crabbe.
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Without seeing Henderson I am in that camp too. But, it is clear that Henderson is a dynamic player, and maybe he is a bit better shooting in Stotts' system???? Crabbe isn't as flashy, but I like the solid shooting and defense.
 
B-Roy said:
When consolidating, it's assumed some of our rotation players are going out in the process. Even if all our rotation guys pan out, it's unlikely we're keeping them all. Moving a few of them along with Hendo/Kaman for salary filler would be a good idea depending on who you could get back.

I mean, I'd drop the entire team minus Dame to get Paul George.
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That might be Neil's plan. Add one star-ish player through trade and hopefully sign a third star this summer with cap space.
 
I'm on the Paul George bandwagon, have been for a long time..he's the needle mover
 
riverman said:
I'm on the Paul George bandwagon, have been for a long time..he's the needle mover
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I'm hesitant with the PG suggestion since he broke his right leg in a freak accident during a Team USA scrimmage.
 
Hobbesarable said:
I'm hesitant with the PG suggestion since he broke his right leg in a freak accident during a Team USA scrimmage.
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He's fully healed, it wasn't a joint break..clean bone break, all healed. those breaks usually heal stronger than they were originally...if it had been a joint..I'd hesitate
 
I would be surprised if Indy traded PG. He's their only real remnant left from that ECF team, and he's still young. He's only 25.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I would be surprised if Indy traded PG. He's their only real remnant left from that ECF team, and he's still young. He's only 25.
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and he's unhappy with playing PF for their small ball system this season..said he pretty much wants out..I'd trade them every white guy on our roster for him in a millisecond
 
Natebishop3 said:
I would be surprised if Indy traded PG. He's their only real remnant left from that ECF team, and he's still young. He's only 25.
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Agreed. I can't see any way you get him unless we get a high lottery pick this year and trade that plus some talent. Pacers are more likely to rebuild around him.

They seem like a relatively smart thing, but I can't imagine what possessed them to try and make him a PF without even discussing it with him first.
 
riverman said:
and he's unhappy with playing PF for their small ball system this season..said he pretty much wants out..I'd trade them every white guy on our roster for him in a millisecond
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CJ/Aminu/Plumlee

It guts our depth a bit, but I think we could weather it.

Dame/Frazier
Crabbe/Connaughton
PG/Harkless
Meyers/Vonleh
Davis/Kaman

Then this summer go after another big name player. Everyone will be going after Durant, but I'd like to make a run at Brad Beal and Al Horford.
 
I think this teams talent level from #2-#13 doesn't drop a whole bunch. As a result we are seeing slightly misleading results. In preseason we are seeing a considerable amount of Bench vs bench play... And our bench is better than most, but our starters are not. As the season goes along I still think we win in the 27-28 range, but with a lot of 8 point losses, and not a ton of blowouts. It will take this team about half the season to get into much of a cohesive flow.
 
Natebishop3 said:
CJ/Aminu/Plumlee

It guts our depth a bit, but I think we could weather it.

Dame/Frazier
Crabbe/Connaughton
PG/Harkless
Meyers/Vonleh
Davis/Kaman

Then this summer go after another big name player. Everyone will be going after Durant, but I'd like to make a run at Brad Beal and Al Horford.
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Dame/PG/Horford is a WCF contender. God, that is a sick dream. Come on, Indy! We'll give you your midwestern boys (Nards/Plums) back!
 
This team plays hard (which I expected) and while I don't think their win-loss projection should move much off of my 27.5 over/under I suspect they won't endure the dozens of +20 points losses you usually expect to see from a team this young.
 
Nikolokolus said:
This team plays hard (which I expected) and while I don't think their win-loss projection should move much off of my 27.5 over/under I suspect they won't endure the dozens of +20 points losses you usually expect to see from a team this young.
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I don't think we'll be Philly.... but I also do not think we'll be the Orlando Magic under Doc Rivers.
 
I think we need to have a years worth of patience before we get all ramped up about trades for veterans. Obviously if a Paul George trade comes up you take it. But in reality what we need is to get this draft pick pick this year and still let the cream rise to the top. We have assimilated solid talent to build on, but it's very unlikely that this deadline we will net a big name with it. IMO most likely trade would be Kaman and Crabbe or Henderson.
 
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