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NRA is a powerful lobbying association. I read this today and it somewhat applies to what you are discussing.

http://www.wweek.com/news/2018/02/1...ills-17-oregon-house-passes-gun-control-bill/

Today, three Republicans—state Reps. Rich Vial (R-Hillsboro), Julie Parrish (R-West Linn) and Knute Buehler (R-Bend)—withstood massive pressure from the National Rifle Association and other gun rights groups to vote "yes."

Something to note, Knute Buehler is running for governor, and he is "heavily pressured" by the NRA, apparently.

Yes, I am aware it is a Willamette Week (liberal) article. I do not consider myself a liberal. Just gotta CYA, ya know.
 
It’s because the NRA are deeply in bed with Republicans. It’s typical right wing shit. The NRA isn’t the issue in all this though. Unfortunately these kind of threads go no where, just in circles
I agree with you, that the NRA isn't soley the issue. I could argue that lobbying is, in a way, the issue for a lot of these injustices America experiences.
 
I really don't think the NRA is as powerful as you think it is, in the grand scheme of things. Why don't openly liberal tycoons like Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg, who posess infinitely more wealth than the NRA, team up and 'out-lobby' the lobbyists? Because half of the country votes to own guns at the end of the day, so it wouldn't matter.
oh I think you're mistaken...arms dealers have serious fuck you money and it's a powerful lobby in DC
 
It’s not just the NRA. The majority of Americans believe in stricter gun laws, but that doesn’t engender much change because most of those Americans are far less vocal than the NRA types. Plus, those Americans may agree we need stricter laws, but good luck getting us to agree on which laws and how strict. I may want magazine restrictions and some loopholes closed while others may want an all out ban, and others just want psychologically challenged people banned. The NRA is a very powerful lobbying arm but that’s because they represent a large contingency that all (for the most part) agree that no restrictions is best. A focused group of people will usually win against an unfocused larger group.
 
The only way anything changes is if Republicans commit, as a group, to make changes. In other words, nothing will change. Keep in mind i have voted Republican up until Trump. As has been said repeatedly, if America would and could not change anything after Sandy Hook, there is no hope. Sadly.
 
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Interesting proposal by some teachers in So Cal on the TV tonight. Teachers want the option to be armed in school He said, while we take cover
waiting for the police to arrive, students get massacred. We can not just wait for the police to arrive.
I posted it as I remember it. I can find nothing in the media online. Just a ton of stuff about this idiot teacher in So Cal.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...w-people-were-furious/?utm_term=.30648bffb602
 
I say give disabled kids guns and deputize them so they can protect the hallways. It's the only way forward.
 
This is what Trump breeds...the shooter from yesterdays school shooting. He posted this on his instagram

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Interesting proposal by some teachers in So Cal on the TV tonight. Teachers want the option to be armed in school He said, while we take cover
waiting for the police to arrive, students get massacred. We can not just wait for the police to arrive.
I posted it as I remember it. I can find nothing in the media online. Just a ton of stuff about this idiot teacher in So Cal.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...w-people-were-furious/?utm_term=.30648bffb602

Ah! It probably has something to do with a bill in the house to prevent teachers from being armed.
https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2017/...lly-armed-law-abiding-teachers-fighting-back/
 
Now Trump is blaming the students!?!
 
In Israel we have many issues but even in Israel they don't let you just buy a weapon in the store

That's because you live in a police state where only those in power are armed.

Don't think you have a clue about America or freedom. :cheers:
 

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