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Watching him tonight I legit wondered if he was the best defender in the league.

maybe the best perimeter defender (excluding the big guys). Jrue is still pretty good but has lost a step. Herbert Jones has been excellent most times I've watched him. Jaden McDaniels was a lockdown defender last season
 
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Camara has only been with us for 11 games, but he may already be the most over-rated Blazer of all time. Why are people so excited about him? His numbers are awful.

If you project them out per 36, he's averaging 7.7 pounds, 6.4 rebounds as s a PF, with a god awful TS% of 43%. That is abysmal for a guy who doesn't even shoot much. Maybe it's because there were no expectations for him, but the fact he's in the rotation just proves how thin we are at forward.

Yeah, he's a rookie, but he's 23.5 years old.

He's like a reverse Adam Morrison then. His offense is at least as bad as Adam's defense.

Many are talking about him like we've found a long term starter at forward. He's a scrub.

I'm not saying anything about what we invested in him. I'm just saying I don't see why people are excited about him.

Go ahead and get excited about every player we ever acquire, because there's a chance they might tremendously improve. I like to have a reason to be excited though, hence, the original question. If you get excited about everyone, that doesn't answer the question, it just makes you a bit delusional.

If Toumani were a decent offensive player, I'd get the excitement. But no team is pencil in a guy as a long term starter at the 3 that has a 48% TS percentage, that's really really bad.

You look at great defensive players that were not good at offense, like Andre Kirilenko, he had a career TS% of 57, or Bowen, he could hit around 40% of his 3s.

Also keep in mind that Toumani is already 23, and he's looking good on defense, but not even great or all nba level.
 
I was curious:

at the 2023 draft combine, Toumani was 6'7 w/o shoes; 8'11 standing reach; 7'05 wingspan; 220 lbs. Great length and size

on paper, those look like optimal measurements for a player capable of guarding all 5 positions. Some PG's might be a little too quick for him and some C's might be too big, but everybody in-between is on lock-down notice
 
I was curious:

at the 2023 draft combine, Toumani was 6'7 w/o shoes; 8'11 standing reach; 7'05 wingspan; 220 lbs. Great length and size

on paper, those look like optimal measurements for a player capable of guarding all 5 positions. Some PG's might be a little too quick for him and some C's might be too big, but everybody in-between is on lock-down notice

Beyond that, his fundamentals are fantastic. They were fantastic in summer league. It's not surprising that Cronin wanted him. Kris Murray is in the same mold, nothing flashy but solid. The 2nd round pick Camara is the one who's elevated from draft day.
 
Absolutely LOVE this dudes game. My favorite players have always been guys you don’t have to run a play for, yet they have a positive affect/effect on the game. His work rate is off the charts! I don’t care about his scoring….anything we get from him on that end is gravy.
Hope he’s is with us for a long time.
 
Camara, Avdija, and Clingan look good moving forward with plenty of work to do for all three -- and all three should be long-time Blazers. Sharpe is showing growth at all 3 levels on O. His D needs time, effort, motor, and teammates setting that example ... along with a new HC next season. I'm hopeful. Rupert and Murray are in development. TimeLord is apparently still valued.

Just waiting for the rest of the clean-up on aisle 13 -- Simons, Grant, Ayton, Thybulle.
 
Sat courtside last game and gotta say…

he’s even more impressive up close. My new comparison: Draymond Green with less playmaking. I like they’re using him more in the short roll and letting him guard off the ball too. I see Draymond literally impact at his peak.
 
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