Trade deadline (1 Viewer)

[Greyvtrayn]

I also read on ESPN that the playoff salary cap rules are different this year which may restrict teams from acquiring the higher-paid players. From what I recall it has more to do with the trades that involve two teams absorbing the salary of player traded to a third team...not something that typically happens.

 

[JTM]

Fox comes with nearly ten million dollar cap hit. If his contract was expiring it would be a no-brainer.

Fox also has a full NMC, which makes trading him even more difficult. I see almost no shot he gets moved.

The names I'm watching: Trocheck, Carrick, Othmann, Schneider. I expect the first three will be gone, we'll see on Schneider (doubt they'll get much of anything for Othmann - another wasted first round pick).

 

[JTM]

I also read on ESPN that the playoff salary cap rules are different this year which may restrict teams from acquiring the higher-paid players. From what I recall it has more to do with the trades that involve two teams absorbing the salary of player traded to a third team...not something that typically happens.

Three changes in the new CBA that the league moved up to start this season (which the GM's are angry about saying the changes going into effect for this season was dropped on them last minute just before the season started):

1. There is now a de facto playoff salary cap. So, no more BS where you can have a guy sit out the regular season on LTIR, add a player with the same cap hit as the player who sits out the regular season, and then bring the "injured player" back for the playoffs without any salary cap implications or restrictions. It's a move Vegas and Colorado have used a lot. The new de facto playoff salary cap says teams must submit a 20-player game-day lineup whose "averaged club salary" is under the "upper limit" of the regular-season salary cap for that team.

2. LTIR rules were changed so teams could only replace an injured player's salary up to the previous season's average league salary, rather than replace his full salary cap hit. The only way to utilize the full salary cap space was to declare that injured player out for the regular season and the entirety of the playoffs.

Dallas just did this with Seguin. They had been using $3.82 million of Seguin's $9.85 million in salary cap relief. After declaring him out for the season (including the playoffs), now they can use the full amount.

3. The new CBA limited trades with "double retention" on a player's salary, in which two different teams retain a percentage of a player's cap hit to facilitate that player ending up with a third team. The new rule states there needs to be 75 regular-season days between trades in which that player's salary is retained, making them logistically unreasonable at the deadline.

Personally, I love the first two rules. I think teams totally took advantage of LTIR and the no salary cap in the playoff's "loopholes".

I hate the third rule, to me that's a trade. The "third team" coming in to retain a % of a player's cap hit gets compensated for doing so. The team that is trying to fit the player in under the cap is giving up something of value to get the "third team" to retain some cap hit. This rule screams of the NHL once again being WAY TOO restrictive with their cap rules, and I always say it really hurts the game, and makes it very difficult for teams to stay together over time. It limits flexibility and essentially is saying a team cannot give up assets/receive assets to retain a % of cap hit to facilitate a trade. That is overly restrictive and will prevent additional trades from happening.

 

[kreidertime]

Unless the offer is huge for Trochek, there is no reason to trade him. He's on a good contract. They can always wait until the off-season. Miller I would dump in a second. He's acting like a bitch. Gavrikov is a top pairing defenseman. If he wants out he's another guy who you should get a huge return for.

 

[kreidertime]

Seems like GM’s are lowballing Drury so he should tell them to fuck off and don’t make a deal if it doesn’t make sense.

 

[Greyvtrayn]

Agree. The package that was reportedly offered by Minnesota (their first and final) didn't seem to be strong at all. Other teams may be interested though. still time.

 

[JTM]

No doubt on Trocheck, grand slam HR or you don't trade him. My guess is he'll be gone for sure though, I cannot see Drury sending a letter and then essentially doing nothing outside of trading the UFA's to be Soucy and Panarin (maybe Carrick).

This is an oxymoron, but I hope Drury is smart here and doesn't take a lesser deal just to make a trade. If still here, Trocheck absolutely is an asset, with a great contract. You can keep him moving forward, or try again to trade him this summer, either of those options are way better than taking a lesser deal now.

Miller is out now, and I don't see Gavrikov getting traded, it would be counterproductive to do so IMO. I think it's a small group of 2 or 3 guys who may get traded. What I'll be watching to see is if any guys get scratched tonight for roster management. It would be very odd to play Trocheck (or Carrick to a much lesser extent) tonight if Drury feels strongly, he'll trade him tomorrow, or if you are reasonably close on a deal. Tonight's lineup may give us some insight into tomorrow (assuming no deals are done today).

I do believe there is a very high likelihood Trocheck gets traded. Reading the tea leaves, I'd be surprised if he doesn't get dealt. Trocheck is the # 1 player available at the DL, with a great contract for 3 more seasons, which only adds to his value. If awful terrible Drury cannot turn that into a major return, he's even worse than I know he is, which is a big statement.

 

[kreidertime]

I would want a 2nd round pick for Carrick. He's a great 4th line center and has become a very good faceoff guy. Less than a 2nd rounder simply isn't good enough.

 

[JTM]

I don't disagree, but I believe they'll get a 3rd round pick and/or a mid-level type prospect for Carrick. I think he'll be gone by tomorrow for sure also.

 

[JTM]

Prices seem pretty high as usual:

Toronto traded Nicholas Roy to Colorado for a conditional first-round draft choice in 2027 and a conditional fifth-round pick in 2026.

If the Avalanche's first-round choice is top 10 in the 2027 draft, Colorado will send its unprotected 2028 first-round pick to Toronto. The Avalanche, who have three fifth-round selections in 2026, will send the lowest of those picks to the Leafs.

Chicago traded Jason Dickinson and Colton Dach to Edmonton for Andrew Mangiapane and a conditional 2027 first-round pick.

If Edmonton's 2027 1st round pick is in the Top 12, Edmonton may choose to transfer their 2028 1st round pick to Chicago instead (to be declared prior to the commencement of the 2027 NHL draft). Should Edmonton choose to trade their 2028 1st round pick prior to the 2027 NHL trade deadline, the 2028 1st round pick will automatically transfer to Chicago unconditionally.

That's a lot for 3rd/4th line type players. Drury should be able to get some good returns you would hope. With that said, I have read a few articles stating Drury is not happy with the offers he is getting for Trocheck, and Drury feels no pressure to deal him as he's signed for 3 more seasons.