Exclusive Trade for Kevin Love? Yea on Nay?

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Nah. I would a year ago but considering where this team is and the overall youth. Let's look to the draft and FA. We need to acquire talent without giving any up.

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Trading Vonleh would be a mistake. He has a chance to be a two way player. No way I'm passing that potential up.
 
Denny Crane said:
Simmons suggests CJ for Love, straight up. The Cavs do it if they really want to get rid of Love..
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LOL fucking never

Love has always been an ( overhyped)role player who you can't run plays through, and plays zero defense. We already have one in Leonard.
 
ripcityboy said:
Nah. I would a year ago but considering where this team is and the overall youth. Let's look to the draft and FA. We need to acquire talent without giving any up.

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It's a long way to the top if you want to rock & roll. There can only be one champion and to do that you need to be a little bit risky at least.
 
BigGameDamian said:
It's a long way to the top if you want to rock & roll. There can only be one champion and to do that you need to be a little bit risky at least.
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Yes. But "getting robbed" is also a part that song's lyrics. And we'd have to rob some team for premium talent which just doesn't happen much anymore. You have to give the goods to get the goods. It's not like baseball or the NFL where you a sucker is born every minute.

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I don't know why the Cavs wouldn't have interest in Plumlee or Kaman. I think the Blazers could get a deal done without involving C.J. or Crabbe.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
I wouldn't do it for the fact that Love in injury prone now.
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I agree with this and he is yet another very poor defender, given our guards are weak defenders I don't think we can afford a sieve at PF, If we had a Whiteside at C then okay, however loves makes 20 mil, Whiteside will get 20 mil and so will CJ, don't think we can afford 4 guys who make 20 mil per or more even with the new cap. Frankly I think Love is over rated and injury prone, I'd easily pass
 
Scalma said:
Trading Vonleh would be a mistake. He has a chance to be a two way player. No way I'm passing that potential up.
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There's that word potential again. Every player coming out of college has potential.
 
Blazinaway said:
I agree with this and he is yet another very poor defender, given our guards are weak defenders I don't think we can afford a sieve at PF, If we had a Whiteside at C then okay, however loves makes 20 mil, Whiteside will get 20 mil and so will CJ, don't think we can afford 4 guys who make 20 mil per or more even with the new cap. Frankly I think Love is over rated and injury prone, I'd easily pass
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This is why I would not give a lot to get him. He is not a great defender. Actually it is getting a lot tougher for PF's to be good defenders when they have to defend two different types. They have to be big enough to rebound and defend underneath, and quick enough to defend the perimeter. Maybe we should go to more zone...

Whiteside btw is also extremely over rated. I have seen him look good, but I watch him in person last week vs Cole Aldrich of all people, and Cole looked better. I think we can find someone cheaper.

But I think if we did have a good defender at the 3 and 5, Love would be an asset.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
This is why I would not give a lot to get him. He is not a great defender. Actually it is getting a lot tougher for PF's to be good defenders when they have to defend two different types. They have to be big enough to rebound and defend underneath, and quick enough to defend the perimeter. Maybe we should go to more zone...

Whiteside btw is also extremely over rated. I have seen him look good, but I watch him in person last week vs Cole Aldrich of all people, and Cole looked better. I think we can find someone cheaper.

But I think if we did have a good defender at the 3 and 5, Love would be an asset.
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IMO can't make a judgement basis ONE game, here IMO are some fairly "telling" stats on Whiteside

is he worth a max? well, considering he's only eligible for the lowest max on the scale, probably. He leads the league in Blocked shots/game by a huge margin over the next guy. He leads by an even bigger margin in blocked shot percentage. He's 2nd in total rebound rate and 3rd in defensive rebound rate. He's 2nd in defensive box plus/minus, 3rd in defensive rating, and 10th in DRPM. He's 2nd in FG% and 4th in eFG%. He's 15th in winshares/48 yet has a usage rate under 20%.

Statistically, he's a bargain at the lowest max. But there's always a risk with giving a huge contract to somebody who has 'established' his norms in less then 100 games. He's also 1 year older then Lillard. That's not a bad thing though, might even be a good thing
 
ripcityboy said:
Yes. But "getting robbed" is also a part that song's lyrics. And we'd have to rob some team for premium talent which just doesn't happen much anymore. You have to give the goods to get the goods. It's not like baseball or the NFL where you a sucker is born every minute.

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Actually Neil Olshey sort of robbed the Lakers when he acquired Chris Paul
 
riverman said:
Actually Neil Olshey sort of robbed the Lakers when he acquired Chris Paul
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Speaking of that turd of an organization. I will always believe that, over the years, David Stern turned a blind eye to the Lakers manipulation of draft rules and whatever else they could get away with. I don't believe for a second that Charlotte traded Kobe for "center help." He already told the franchise he wouldn't play for them. I think that West secretly gave Paul Gasol to LA because he felt he owed the franchise. F-ck the Lakers and all they stand for. Chop off my ears and boil me in oil, I will believe these facts till the day I die.

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Supposedly Blatt felt like they were either going to fire him, or trade Love, as a big change to jump start the team a bit. Looks like they fired Blatt, so I doubt they trade Love.
 
The Cavs front office is not famous for making a ton of sense...stack a roster with divas and this is what you get
 
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