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tester551 said:
You don't know that we don't advance without CJ....

It's the butterfly effect. If we don't have CJ and have someone who is a more well-rounded player we may not be in that position to begin with.
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How soon we forget Game 7 in Denver
 
Scalma said:
AST % isn’t part of assist numbers?

Passing has nothing to do with athleticism either. A blazer fan should know that.
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Passing doesn't have to do with athleticism, but playmaking does. Batum was a good playmaker out of side pick and rolls and with his ability to bring the ball up the floor and penetrate. Those skills are starting to lessen for him making it harder to get to positions to make passes. It's not like Charlotte's team changed much since he's been there, why would his usage and passing numbers dip so much if that wasn't true?
 
hoopsjock said:
Passing doesn't have to do with athleticism, but playmaking does. Batum was a good playmaker out of side pick and rolls and with his ability to bring the ball up the floor and penetrate. Those skills are starting to lessen for him making it harder to get to positions to make passes. It's not like Charlotte's team changed much since he's been there, why would his usage and passing numbers dip so much if that wasn't true?
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Idk, I didn’t sit around watching Hornets games. But it was one season, with a new coach. Could be a bunch of things, the least likely being skills eroding. He’s two years older than Lillard.
 
Scalma said:
Idk, I didn’t sit around watching Hornets games. But it was one season, with a new coach. Could be a bunch of things, the least likely being skills eroding. He’s two years older than Lillard.
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He's played 4 more NBA seasons, plus Batum was known for going pretty hard for France every summer until the last one. He's got a lot of mileage.
 
tester551 said:
Last year: 10-2
'17-'18: 1-0
'16-'17: 1-1
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Which is an extremely small sample size and this past season many of those wins were against the weaker part of our schedule and Lillard went into hero mode. Over an 82 game season our record would be better with McCollum than without and it's not really debatable.
 
Scalma said:
Idk, I didn’t sit around watching Hornets games. But it was one season, with a new coach. Could be a bunch of things, the least likely being skills eroding. He’s two years older than Lillard.
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Forget stats for a moment. Let me ask you a more fundamental question. Batum often seemed unhappy and unmotivated in Portland. He has shown the same traits with the Hornets. Why do you think he is going to change?

I'm saying this as somebody who once had great hopes for Batum.
 
hoopsjock said:
He's played 4 more NBA seasons, plus Batum was known for going pretty hard for France every summer until the last one. He's got a lot of mileage.
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Players’ skills don’t erode at 30, unless there was some sort of major injury, especially not passing. That never goes away since it’s just instinct and IQ. Just look at the walking corpse that was Sabonis. Boris Diaw. I mean I could compile a list but I’d rather not. You can put Batum on the court when he’s 50 and he’d still be one of the better passers out there.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Forget stats for a moment. Let me ask you a more fundamental question. Batum often seemed unhappy and unmotivated in Portland. He has shown the same traits with the Hornets. Why do you think he is going to change?

I'm saying this as somebody who once had great hopes for Batum.
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His demeanor has always been mislabeled as “lazy, unmotivated” because of how smooth his game is. It looks like he’s jogging when he’s really covering ground. He doesn’t show much emotion. The concern about his aggressiveness is another story, but no one is asking him to come in and be something he’s not. He can be the same guy he was the last time he was here, or the guy he’s been in Charlotte, and it’d still be an upgrade.
 
Scalma said:
His demeanor has always been mislabeled as “lazy, unmotivated” because of how smooth his game is. It looks like he’s jogging when he’s really covering ground. He doesn’t show much emotion. The concern about his aggressiveness is another story, but no one is asking him to come in and be something he’s not. He can be the same guy he was the last time he was here, or the guy he’s been in Charlotte, and it’d still be an upgrade.
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An upgrade over whom?
 
Scalma said:
His demeanor has always been mislabeled as “lazy, unmotivated” because of how smooth his game is. It looks like he’s jogging when he’s really covering ground. He doesn’t show much emotion. The concern about his aggressiveness is another story, but no one is asking him to come in and be something he’s not. He can be the same guy he was the last time he was here, or the guy he’s been in Charlotte, and it’d still be an upgrade.
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Didn't he lead the league is miles on the court while with Portland?
 
Scalma said:
Everyone that’s started at small forward since he left. And don’t bring up percentages. No one respects Harkless’ shot.
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But they respect the guy who shot 32.4% from 3 his last year here and just 40.0% overall from the field that season?
 
Batum passed the ball like a hot potato in his last couple seasons with the Blazers when he was wide open on the perimeter. It's frustrating to see Hark or Aminu brick a shot, but at least they had the stones to shoot.
 
Scalma said:
I’m a little high tonight so I’m firing on all cylinders

Collins, Turner, Leonard and #25 for Blake Griffin and #45 boiiii. Sign O’Quinn to replace Meyers.
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Whatcha smokin'?

:lol:
 
If the Blazers keep pick they Draft King and Trade Hark and Turner for something -- this is my prediction - Also i think the Blazers might try and get a late 2nd round pick to draft Wooten - I know some say he might go undrafted and i agree but i can see a team taking a flyer on him around pick 45 to the end of the draft.

My final prediction is a Former Duck will be a Blazers by the end of the night maybe 2
 
You know who probably just became verrrry available? Gordon Hayward. With Horford and Irving out, it’s time for them to reboot. I’d offer up Turner and Harkless and ask for a thank you basket on top of Hayward in return.
 
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